transparant said:You obviously have the trained mind of a medical Dr. which I understand - I have the trained mind of someone who has witnessed hundrends of deliveries with *0* intervention (birth centers, midwives, home AND hospitals) with absolutely no complications. Birth works...its been done for thousands of years. However when it is *necessary* medical intervention is a wonderful thing. I'm not arguing that dr.'s aren't necessary - but don't say that birth has to be medicalized all the time, because with a healthy pregnancy and a midwife to monitor things - no intervention works just fine. Trust me - I have seen emergencies to...I'm in no way saying that OB's are bad...they aren't - they are life savers at times.
Galahad said:Actually, I probably reacted rather strongly because I am biased since DW is an OB. Also, my experience with this will be different because she is a High Risk OB and has never been an generalist OB. And they get the most complicated cases. There are exactly 7 High Risk OBs in our city 5 at DWs hospital and 2 at another, and exactly two more in the State, one each in two other cities. So DWs group gets the vast majority of the very complicated cases for a state of about 7 million people. She delivers over 300 babies a year more than any other OB in the state and each of her 4 partners delivers over 200 (except for one that is semi-retired). She has literally, and without exaggeration, save the lives of no fewer that 7 mothers and 15 babies in the last month alone. BTW, there are midwives in her practice, so it is not something that all OBs reject. But bad things do happen moms and babies do die babies do get born very very sick. Not an entirely benign procedure to borrow a phrase.
If I'd lived 100 years ago, I wouldn't have survived childbirth.Galahad said:Gee, so my wife wasted years of medical school, residency and 100 hours a week watching a "normal bodily function."...........
I'll be sure to tell her how unnecessary she is....

transparant said:She was right - giving birth is NOT a medical procedure.
DawnCt1 said:The episiotomy and repair or repairing the tear certainly are.
That's amazing. Of all of my friends, sisters and sister-in-law's the only ones who didn't tear or have episiotomies were the ones who had c-sections.transparant said:Dawn...almost all of the delivery's I attend do not need episiotomy's and if they do need one or they tear - the midwife can do it.
sha_lyn said:Galahad....you do realize women were having babies for thousands of yrs before there were medical Drs. Women all over the world still continue to have babies every day without medical intervention.
MamaLema said:I wouldn't want my kids in the room no matter what their ages.
Slightly off-topic but my friend's sister who was 22 at the time was in the delivery room with her and has now sworn off having children EVER. She is now 30 and still hasn't changed her mind
Yes, women have been giving birth for ages. But anybody happen to have the mortality rates of women and children during childbirth in the 1700's and 1800's vs. rates since medical advancement? How many of us have a "Died in childbirth" in their family tree?Tinijocaro said:Not only have women been giving birth since mankind started, but so have animals- poor things, no doctors to help them.
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inaminute said:The only child that I would have ever allowed was the one being born!
SunFloridaDisney said:Doctors are necessary, and I respect their knowledge and skill, and at times (I've had 2 C-sections) it is the only way. But I do think birth has become more a "medical situation" than a joyful life event. JMHO.![]()
Mishetta said:Ha Ha! I was just thinking that if I had a 16 y/o daughter, maybe I'd consider having her witness childbirth so I could be assured in thinking she wouldn't want to be sexually active!
All kidding aside though, I think it's a very personal decision but I WOULD NOT want a child in the room. As it was, there were too many people in the room when I gave birth to my LAST one. Lets see...my DH, the Doctor, my nurse & the nurse assigned to baby.

That's amazing. Of all of my friends, sisters and sister-in-law's the only ones who didn't tear or have episiotomies were the ones who had c-sections.
They didn't do one with my first and not only did I tear, the doctor's words were that I "shredded". For the second child they asked if I wanted the episiotomy and I said yes. It was much better and healed better.va32h said:I had an episiotomy with one, but no epis or tears with the subsequent two. I was very relieved when the drs that delivered my 2nd and 3rd children assured me they would not do an epi - I distinctly remember that first one as being far more painful than the crowning!