At EPCOT - this is BAD

[minnie mum]

What is the difference between CPS and DCF

CPS- Child Protective Services

DCF- I don't know what this stands for

 

[Olivejuicy]

CPS- Child Protective Services

DCF- I don't know what this stands for

DCF is Dept of Children and families, or something like that. Same department, name changes by state.

 

[waffles77]

Absolutely disgusting. There is no excuse for a grown man having such a temper tantrum towards a 3 year old.

Feel man enough yet?

 

[Chelley00]

Probably a little too much drinking around the world?

 

[DisneyFive]

Sad.

Dan

 

[deegack]

People can get out on bail when they murder someone. Jerry Sandusky was out on bail. It's disgusting what he did, but I don't think they can hold him without bail.
.

Its part of that innocent until proven guilty thing we hold dear. Sandusky was denied bail after his conviction (sometimes granted until sentencing).

Anyway, its disgusting and I hope someone is looking out for the child.

 

[nmmom95]

That poor baby. Is his wife nuts?

 

[hollygolitely93]

That just breaks my heart. And the little boy was in his stroller...it makes it even worse...so helpless at three. I can't even fathom striking a child...much less kicking. And doctor, to boot? eesh!

 

[PrincessShea]

I always feel bad for the inexperienced (which I am assuming this family is) people that go around this time of year. It's insanely hot and crowded and is just the perfect recipe for meltdowns and arguments... and I understand the frustration because it's so much money and when you haven't planned....etc, etc

But KICKING a kid in the face Wow....

 

[minnie mum]

I always feel bad for the inexperienced (which I am assuming this family is) people that go around this time of year. It's insanely hot and crowded and is just the perfect recipe for meltdowns and arguments... and I understand the frustration because it's so much money and when you haven't planned....etc, etc

But KICKING a kid in the face Wow....

Please don't take this as a flame against you- it truly isn't. But I don't care how hot, tired, frustrated or drunk someone is, or what their ethnic backround is (mafioso- really??). There is absolutely, under no circumstance a reason, justification or excuse that a grown man can have for using violence on a child. None.

 

[pigletto]

I have to agree. I am not interested in how hot, crowded, tired, overwhelmed he was. Bottom line is that those are excuses for abhorrent, disgusting, abusive behaviour. And yes, it not only is an unthinkable and horrible thing to do to a child, but is upsetting for everyone else who had to witness such a terrible thing.
Just disgusting.

 

[Jennasis]

If the kid was in the stroller, it must have been more like a STOMP to the face. Just horrible! That poor kid.

 

[Celine]

There has to be some connection with other cultures and it being somehow more acceptable to hit children in public. I saw this (not THIS, but public discipline) in NYC all of the time by what seemed to be people of other cultures.... and on my last trip to Disney World in September I witnessed something almost equally as horrible as this. That family was also removed from the area we were in, but I don't think they called the authorities, although I can't be sure. We just saw security surround them and escort them out of the area and into a building.

BTW, I am not, by ANY means, comparing what this man did to discipline of any kind. I was just sharing my thoughts on other cultures view on PUBLIC display of discipline (i.e. hitting, shoving, slapping, etc.) and how this story reminded me of an almost equally appalling display of what this mother (I can only assume) felt was discipline.

 

[momto4princesses]

You know what I have 4 children and my Hubby works out of town all the time so I basically do this thing on my own. I have even taken them to WDW on my own. Have I gotten frustrated at times? sure Have I maybe lost my cool and yelled at one of my kids or something? sure BUT ASSAULT never!!!! That is ridiculous. He kicked that baby hard enough he had cuts, abrasion, and swelling. That is insane!!!!!

 

[minnie mum]

There has to be some connection with other cultures and it being somehow more acceptable to hit children in public. I saw this (not THIS, but public discipline) in NYC all of the time by what seemed to be people of other cultures.... and on my last trip to Disney World in September I witnessed something almost equally as horrible as this. That family was also removed from the area we were in, but I don't think they called the authorities, although I can't be sure. We just saw security surround them and escort them out of the area and into a building.

BTW, I am not, by ANY means, comparing what this man did to discipline of any kind. I was just sharing my thoughts on other cultures view on PUBLIC display of discipline (i.e. hitting, shoving, slapping, etc.) and how this story reminded me of an almost equally appalling display of what this mother (I can only assume) felt was discipline.

Sorry, going to have to disagree with your assertion that foreigners find child abuse acceptable. When I lived in Europe (the subject in this case was Italian), I never saw public displays of abuse towards children. On the contrary, most children were permitted lattitudes of behaviour that would be frowned upon in America.

OTOH, scum can be found living in every country on earth, including the USA- their nationality is irrelevant.

 

[TwiddleDeeTwiddleDum]

what a jerk, I feel bad the poor child. I just can't understand how anyone can be abusive to a child, it breaks my heart

 

[Celine]

Sorry, going to have to disagree with your assertion that foreigners find child abuse acceptable. When I lived in Europe (the subject in this case was Italian), I never saw public displays of abuse towards children. On the contrary, most children were permitted lattitudes of behaviour that would be frowned upon in America.

OTOH, scum can be found living in every country on earth, including the USA- their nationality is irrelevant.

I certainly wasn't being specific to Europeans as my whole family is from Europe. I was saying (poorly, apparently) that based on my experience living in NYC and other culturally diverse cities (Miami, Las Vegas, San Francisco), what is deemed so adamantly unacceptable here in the US in the form of public discipline (and I was clear not to include what this man did to his son in my example) seems to be less abhorrent elsewhere. That could be anywhere from Timbuktu to anywhere else I've never heard of.

I happen to live in Austin Tx, at the moment, and sure enough I will so often see Spanish parents spanking their kids right in the store. That is REALLY uncommon among American peeps because I think they would worry about getting someone called on them, if for no other reason. They might do that at home, but I don't see it out in a super public place like a grocery store or park or what have you. Yet, it happens commonly within the Spanish community here. I am not speaking for the entirety of every Spanish speaking person in the city of Austin Tx. Just saying what *I* have witnessed.

In NYC, I would see it happen with other cultures as well. Not that the discipline is so unheard of.. just the public display of it. I think our culture here teaches us to do that sort of thing behind closed doors. I mean, if you are of the mind to do it at all.

The example of what I witnessed in Disney World in September was the extreme and very close to what is posted here, but not as bad. The mother was just repeatedly slapping the dog piss out of a little girl (2-3 yr old) right across the face and people were freaking out and called for help. It was clear by the shocked look on this woman's face (and the fact that she did it in the middle of a crowded restaurant in Fantasyland) that she saw nothing wrong with what she was doing.. public or otherwise. I can't imagine someone born and raised here thinking that it would be perfectly acceptable to do such a thing in such a public manner and not be (at the very least) confronted or stopped.

Just sayin'....

 

[kerplop]

Man and I thought the lady we saw grabbing her kid's hair and stuffing food into his mouth when we went was bad Some people are just sick. I don't care how hot, tired, stressed, etc. you are - no excuses for that disgusting behavior.

 

[PrincessShea]

Please don't take this as a flame against you- it truly isn't. But I don't care how hot, tired, frustrated or drunk someone is, or what their ethnic backround is (mafioso- really??). There is absolutely, under no circumstance a reason, justification or excuse that a grown man can have for using violence on a child. None.

Oh woah, the post I made came across wrong then! I was just saying I feel bad when I see parents lose it...and by lose it I mean yelling or whatever. I agree, ZERO excuse for what he did. I mean to me an EXTREME form of losing it is grabbing the kids arm...I cannot even imagine what goes through your head where kicking them in the face happens

If I insinuated his behavior was acceptable, I would deserve the flame! It's not what I meant, believe me!

 

[hockey mom]

Where the heck was his mom

If my husband kicked any child of mine I would do a little drop kick of my own before I divorced his ***