Argh. The 20% off coupon can't be used for Disney Giftcards afterall. :(

[starry_solo]

No, they are labeled Entertainment cards. People didn't just randomly think this up. I took this photo at Target this morning.

I should have taken a picture of the ones in Corona, CA and Norco, CA (also Southern California). They actually say "DISNEY $50 card" within nothing that says "entertainment." There are some other cards that say "entertainment" and some other cards that say "incomm" (whatever that means)

 

[WDW_Diane]

I should have taken a picture of the ones in Corona, CA and Norco, CA (also Southern California). They actually say "DISNEY $50 card" within nothing that says "entertainment." There are some other cards that say "entertainment" and some other cards that say "incomm" (whatever that means)

My store said "Disney" and I did not get the discount. Darn!

 

[starry_solo]

My store said "Disney" and I did not get the discount. Darn!

I did not get the discount either. I was commenting on someone else's photo (from Southern California) where their label says "entertainment." All mine said "Disney" and I didn't get the discount.

Also, I did not get a discount on the ones labeled entertainment (Chick Fil A, Subway, or Starbucks). So, it looks like the computer considers all of those gift cards.

 

[mistysue]

And once again, the entitled ones have ruined it for the rest of us. I'd be willing to bet that the ability to use a Red Card for ANY gift(entertainment) card will go away very, very shortly.

I think the redcard thing is still up in the air. They give that discount because they make money off of it. They don't make money on this coupon- it's just a loss for them. The redcard discount they give because it not only saves Target the 2-3% they would be paying Visa if you used a non-Target credit card, but it gives you incentive to buy more. I buy my groceries at Target because they are 5% off. Without that discount they loose 100% of my grocery budget. Then they also lose the profit from all the random unnecessary crap I buy. Likewise, if you have a redcard ONLY for the GC's, they are banking on you picking up a loaf of bread, toaster and some ponchos for your trip. In addition to the extra business and savings on Visa transaction fees, Target now gets to charge you interest and a fee when you don't pay it off 100%.

My point is the red card discount is not the same thing as a coupon. It works in their favor to suck you in with something that shiny.

(ETA- just want to say that I didn't push my manager for information, I took my receipt in because the last I had read was people saying if they call corporate they are told it works. I approached the counter, said I read online that people are being told it should work on non-Target gift cards, she agreed it should, refunded me $12 from the cards I had bought without my coupon counting that morning, then called when she tried to do another transaction and it required an override... then got the automated message that it is not supposed to work. There was nothing awkward about the entire thing, I shop there nearly every day so the news that people were having it work was interesting to everybody)

 

[suecait]

OK people, please stop pushing this and calling! I'm not even just thinking of Disney Entertainment cards but all of the entertainment cards. How much do you want to bet that when the smoke clears from the overrides that "entertainment cards" will be changed to "gift cards" in the system? Then none of us will get the small discounts Target and Disney have allowed us to enjoy. FWIW though, I don't think people getting the discount are doing anything wrong at all- they are "ent." Cards in the system, Target is aware of that, and they could have stated "gift cards or ent. Cards" in the fine print.

I can't believe after all the posts stating they were denied people would push the issue with a mgr for an hour or more just for the chance to get the discount. After all the complaints here I won't be surprised if the pharmacy and red card discount is lost. Probably are all the same people who called throughout the week giving Target the time to close any loophole there was to get the discount in the first place.

Why do people always have to complain and ruin it for everyone?

Thanks a lot.

 

[starbird]

Wording aside, it sounds as if they really shouldn't be included, and some places are trying to make the guest happy by overriding the system and giving the discount.

I agree and have always been baffled they are normally included.

 

[roobug]

I'm not planning on using the 20%off on any Disney cards. However I think this all falls on Target for being very unclear in their advertising and its not about people being entitled. No mention if restrictions in their Black Friday ads and then specifically naming ITunes. Especially given that all entertainment cards have been called that in advertising and in shelves in stores.

 

[Tinkerbell58]

I can't believe after all the posts stating they were denied people would push the issue with a mgr for an hour or more just for the chance to get the discount. After all the complaints here I won't be surprised if the pharmacy and red card discount is lost. Probably are all the same people who called throughout the week giving Target the time to close any loophole there was to get the discount in the first place.

Why do people always have to complain and ruin it for everyone?

Thanks a lot.

Some people complain because they're never satisfied.

 

[disneychrista]

I'm not planning on using the 20%off on any Disney cards. However I think this all falls on Target for being very unclear in their advertising and its not about people being entitled.

While I do agree that it may not have been clear in their advertising. I do not understand why one would assume there would be a discount on GIFT CARD (regardless of what they are called). You are paying company A for a GIFT CARD to company B. Why would company A give you a discount for company B?

 

[DarthMole]

Especially given that all entertainment cards have been called that in advertising and in shelves in stores.

I can't speak to prior ads, but today's ad refers to them as gift cards.

The cards themself say "Gift Card" on them.

If you asked random shoppers, I doubt many would call it an entertainment card.

The only people trying to make this distinction are those looking to either justify their position and/or talk a manager into over riding the system.

 

[dllocals]

I bought a ton of gift cards as well as groceries. The cashier was excited for me and already knew the 20% would work because she had done the same thing for someone earlier who was going on a Disney cruise. Because the amount was so high a supervisor (maybe a shift supervisor...he was pretty young) had to come over to approve it or something...he thought the gift cards could not be used but the cashier as well as the "Big Wig" manager (as the cashier called her) who happened to be walking by said "No, Disney cards are fine, just not Target gift cards and iTunes". So, I wouldn't throw in the towel people. I would definitely check it out for yourself! Good Luck!!!

I am coming to your Target! How many cards did you buy and what Target did you go to?

 

[starbird]

I'm not planning on using the 20%off on any Disney cards. However I think this all falls on Target for being very unclear in their advertising and its not about people being entitled. No mention if restrictions in their Black Friday ads and then specifically naming ITunes. Especially given that all entertainment cards have been called that in advertising and in shelves in stores.

I agree. It is the fact that Red Card and Rx Rewards both discount them, plus the fact that they call out iTunes but no others (as iTunes are normally included in Red Card and Rx) that has led to the confusion. Many, myself included, purchased on Friday specifically for this 20% with the assumption that the Disney cards would be eligible. We were wrong. Am I upset? A little. Mainly because I was on the Fantasy at the time, paid the 75¢ a minute (10 minutes) and the main item I wanted on Black Friday (an other Apple TV) was unavailable. So a few things add up to my "disappointment" though, to be honest, I partly expected it not to work, but the specific exclusion of iTunes is the biggest culprit in the confusion. If iTunes gift cards are gift cards the same as Disney, then iTunes did not need to be specifically called out.

 

[z28wiz]

Does this remind anyone else of when all the DIS'ers with Disney Visas called about fall free dining and everyone was denied, but still kept calling and calling? And once again, the entitled ones have ruined it for the rest of us. I'd be willing to bet that the ability to use a Red Card for ANY gift(entertainment) card will go away very, very shortly. These are the same folks who will complain about FP+ to CMs until they are blue in the face trying to get their way after their FP+ window has closed, or some such nonsense. Why does everyone feel they are entitled to everything? What ever happened to play by the rules? How many Target employees (who may have even been seasonal staff) will get canned because of this? How many employees will lose some sort of benefit or discount because one manager allowed some entitled @$$ to get a discount on some Disney cards and now the store has lost Xhundreds of dollars and is on the hook to Disney for that money and now that money to come from somewhere? How soon til Disney stops allowing Target to sell their cards -PERIOD- because of this SNAFU? I don't shop on Black Friday. It's not worth the stress. No, I didn't go to Target and get a 20% off coupon, although it would have been nice to have for groceries this week. This is not affecting me personally, EXCEPT, if I can no longer use my Red Card in the future and save even 5% on a Disney card, then I'll be upset. So, I hope those of you that forced the issue and got your discount come hell, high water, or the firing of a Target employee (or several) are happy with yourselves. You are acting like 4 year olds who have been told it's time to leave the playground. Enjoy your vacations earned by trampling on the backs of those who follow the rules.

Yep and this is one reason why this country is in the predicament it's in now. Everyone feels entitled and should get what they want. The disney card clearly says disney gift card on it. Who cares what Target has it listed as in their system.

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[rebbyparker]

I'm not planning on using the 20%off on any Disney cards. However I think this all falls on Target for being very unclear in their advertising and its not about people being entitled. No mention if restrictions in their Black Friday ads and then specifically naming ITunes. Especially given that all entertainment cards have been called that in advertising and in shelves in stores.

Agreed. And I think it's a bit harsh for people to criticize other people for doing something the managers approved. I doubt that Target managers are so inept that they would approve something Target doesn't allow. At the very least, Target may want to brush up on training, since their customer service people/managers gave out various answers.

 

[wunkmom]

I think the redcard thing is still up in the air. They give that discount because they make money off of it. They don't make money on this coupon- it's just a loss for them. The redcard discount they give because it not only saves Target the 2-3% they would be paying Visa if you used a non-Target credit card, but it gives you incentive to buy more. I buy my groceries at Target because they are 5% off. Without that discount they loose 100% of my grocery budget. Then they also lose the profit from all the random unnecessary crap I buy. Likewise, if you have a redcard ONLY for the GC's, they are banking on you picking up a loaf of bread, toaster and some ponchos for your trip. In addition to the extra business and savings on Visa transaction fees, Target now gets to charge you interest and a fee when you don't pay it off 100%.

My point is the red card discount is not the same thing as a coupon. It works in their favor to suck you in with something that shiny.

(ETA- just want to say that I didn't push my manager for information, I took my receipt in because the last I had read was people saying if they call corporate they are told it works. I approached the counter, said I read online that people are being told it should work on non-Target gift cards, she agreed it should, refunded me $12 from the cards I had bought without my coupon counting that morning, then called when she tried to do another transaction and it required an override... then got the automated message that it is not supposed to work. There was nothing awkward about the entire thing, I shop there nearly every day so the news that people were having it work was interesting to everybody)

I understand what you are saying. I buy my groceries there too because of the 5%. But they already exclude discounting Target GCs when buying with Red Card, I'm wondering if after this, they'll just decide that it was too grey an area and change to excluding ALL GCs (whether labeled GC or entertainment card) from discount when buying with Red Card.

When an issue gets pushed to the point it did today (corporate putting it as a message on their main phone line that Disney GC were not to be discounted) and it brings a very grey area to light, it is sometimes just easier to make a hard and fast rule to stop it from happening in the future. Putting a stop to any and all discounts to any and all GCs (and entertainment cards {I'll be willing to bet that those will be reclassified first thing tomorrow morning}) regardless of type of possible discount (Red Card, Pharm rewards, etc.) seems like the most logical way to stop this in the future. Especially if Target is on the hook with Disney for the face value (or some set value) of the cards, which I'm willing to bet is the case.

If enough people point out a leak, the leak will not only be stopped, but that weak point reinforced so it never happens again.

Just my $.02.

 

[nugov2]

I think it is Targets fault for not being specific enough too, but if you are told no I does make sense to me. Typically GC are not used for percentage discounts. I also think that people saying target will pull the 5% are being slightly dramatic. It isn't like this is a loophole they are unaware of that has just been brought to their attention. They are not stupid. They know people buy them with the cards and because a handful of people are upset they are treating this differently will not change that. If it changes it is because that was already in the works and not the fault of some people complaining or asking to have a coupon honored for the Disney entertainment/gift cards.

If you got it I don't think you are some evil person. The managers decided to do so. If they called CS and felt they should override it, that is on them. They are either not competent enough to listen to directions from a CS operator and did it anyway or didn't listen properly to the original instructions on how to handle the coupon, again their fault....or they were told it was OK and then they will not be in trouble. They are grown adults they should be doing their job properly, you cannot blame others for your decisions. If they chose to do the wrong thing that is on them not the customer who complained. They could have still politely denied the customer.

 

[andrews_dad]

Really? You pinned all your cruise hopes on a coupon that had a very slim chance of working? Surely you could use your imagination to come up with other ways of saving money.

Actually, we were poised to book a trip to Atlantis. The week we have off, the 7 day cruise was about $5 k. Atlantis for same week was MUCH cheaper, even including the food. When the 20% rumor started here, I figured that $5000 cruise would cost me $3800 ish... making it closer to competing with Atlantis. If we could have pulled that deal, I would be on the phone telling a Cast Member 100 card numbers to book a cruise right now!! Hey, we love Atlantis, too. It is all good. I was not thinking it was a slim chance, to be honest. I paid for my last cruise with %5 pharm and %5 Red card gift cards. Knowing that worked, I assumed this coupon would work, too.

 

[Brittmarie04]

I'm not planning on using the 20%off on any Disney cards. However I think this all falls on Target for being very unclear in their advertising and its not about people being entitled. No mention if restrictions in their Black Friday ads and then specifically naming ITunes. Especially given that all entertainment cards have been called that in advertising and in shelves in stores.

Yes this exactly! I agree

 

[mistysue]

I understand what you are saying. I buy my groceries there too because of the 5%. But they already exclude discounting Target GCs when buying with Red Card, I'm wondering if after this, they'll just decide that it was too grey an area and change to excluding ALL GCs (whether labeled GC or entertainment card) from discount when buying with Red Card.

When an issue gets pushed to the point it did today (corporate putting it as a message on their main phone line that Disney GC were not to be discounted) and it brings a very grey area to light, it is sometimes just easier to make a hard and fast rule to stop it from happening in the future. Putting a stop to any and all discounts to any and all GCs (and entertainment cards {I'll be willing to bet that those will be reclassified first thing tomorrow morning}) regardless of type of possible discount (Red Card, Pharm rewards, etc.) seems like the most logical way to stop this in the future. Especially if Target is on the hook with Disney for the face value (or some set value) of the cards, which I'm willing to bet is the case.

If enough people point out a leak, the leak will not only be stopped, but that weak point reinforced so it never happens again.

Just my $.02.

I agree. I suspect they have already been reclassifying the entertainment cards as gift cards, especially because with all this talk about it the last few days I started looking up Target ads and they are advertising the "entertainment cards" as "gift cards".
The redcard/pharma thing state "Target gift cards" - so I suspect (and hope!!!) that they will let it rest there. In the future I think we are going to see wording like "all types of gift cards" just to be that much more clear.

 

[z28wiz]

I think it is Targets fault for not being specific enough too, but if you are told no I does make sense to me. Typically GC are not used for percentage discounts. I also think that people saying target will pull the 5% are being slightly dramatic. It isn't like this is a loophole they are unaware of that has just been brought to their attention. They are not stupid. They know people buy them with the cards and because a handful of people are upset they are treating this differently will not change that. If it changes it is because that was already in the works and not the fault of some people complaining or asking to have a coupon honored for the Disney entertainment/gift cards. If you got it I don't think you are some evil person. The managers decided to do so. If they called CS and felt they should override it, that is on them. They are either not competent enough to listen to directions from a CS operator and did it anyway or didn't listen properly to the original instructions on how to handle the coupon, again their fault....or they were told it was OK and then they will not be in trouble. They are grown adults they should be doing their job properly, you cannot blame others for your decisions. If they chose to do the wrong thing that is on them not the customer who complained. They could have still politely denied the customer.

But why go the step farther and ask for a manager when indeed you know for a fact they are gift cards and it clearly says it on the card itself?

My point people are trying to beat they system. There is really no denying it.

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