Are you sending your kids to school next month?

Will your school allow you to switch if they go for a week and hate it? Ours is giving a 2 week window and then you can switch when the grading periods end.
Yes, they are allowing students to move between virtual and brick and mortar “as needed”. I don’t think it’s going to be as seamless as they hope for K-8 since they are using a Calvert curriculum for virtual. 9-12 is using google classroom that integrates with what each class though, so it should be seamless for those students.
 
In my area of Texas, the schools had decided to let you choose between online and in person learning for the first 9 weeks, then reassess and change if desired. Over the past week, they have amended that, Now, all classes will be virtual until at least mid-September, and then you will decide whether you want online or in person. I'm sure they will reevaluate as needed.

ETA: I expect some universities to follow suit soon.
 
In my area of Texas, the schools had decided to let you choose between online and in person learning for the first 9 weeks, then reassess and change if desired. Over the past week, they have amended that, Now, all classes will be virtual until at least mid-September, and then you will decide whether you want online or in person. I'm sure they will reevaluate as needed.

ETA: I expect some universities to follow suit soon.
I agree with you on the universities. One of my kids is in the next state over for school. Their classes are now all online. I keep going back and forth whether they should go or not. I have an idea the decision will be made for me.
 
Yes, they are allowing students to move between virtual and brick and mortar “as needed”. I don’t think it’s going to be as seamless as they hope for K-8 since they are using a Calvert curriculum for virtual. 9-12 is using google classroom that integrates with what each class though, so it should be seamless for those students.

We use Google Classroom usually, but not sure if that will change. We have next to no information yet and school starts August 10th. Ugh.
 

Our son's school (Catholic HS) just released it's opening plan. A little surprisingly, they're going to a 5-day a week plan. Delaying the start by 2 weeks, but regular schedule planned. There is an option for online schooling for those who choose to do so.
 
Today there is talk in my state (Virginia) about moving back into Phase 2. If that happens, even my little private Catholic school, which has been planning on face to face classes come hell or high water (which I think is a really bad idea in the middle of a viral surge), will be forced to go back to distance learning.

All the public school districts around us have already announced distance learning for the Fall.
 
Last week our school district announced the plan: elementary and middle could either return to class as normal or go virtual. High school could go hybrid of 2 days in class 3 online or all virtual. For our elementary and middle school children they are doing virtual. Our high schooler will do the hybrid program, knowing that if things get much worse we're pulling her. Parents had one week to make a decision. How this will work with both of us working from home and busy schedules is anyone's guess. But we just couldn't fathom returning our kids to the classroom of 20 kids! There's no real social distancing in a standard classroom, and the school is not requiring masks.
 
Haven't caught up on the 36 pages of posts since I was here last, but the current situation here is that school will be virtual for at least the first semester.
The kicker is that teachers will report, and they have wavered on their initial promise that children of teachers could go to the school with them. If they aren't allowed to take the kids, this will definitely create a new challenge for us.
 
MA just released a 34 page update to the guidelines. One student per bus seat is one of the things mentioned which I don’t know how any school will be able to do. They say a bus that seats 77 can only have 25. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/what-w...achusetts-issues-facilities-guidance/33403925
That was one of the issues here, too. They were proposing things like alternating days, which meant teachers would be teaching the same material to different groups, etc, etc.. Some classrooms aren't setup for physical distancing without investing in furniture, either. Tables for 4 that have 2 kids facing each other, even if you put them on opposite corners, then they are "facing" each other, and they are all supposed to be facing the same direction now.
 
That was one of the issues here, too. They were proposing things like alternating days, which meant teachers would be teaching the same material to different groups, etc, etc.. Some classrooms aren't setup for physical distancing without investing in furniture, either. Tables for 4 that have 2 kids facing each other, even if you put them on opposite corners, then they are "facing" each other, and they are all supposed to be facing the same direction now.
Yes and the guidelines also talk about the ventilation systems which in many schools is a nightmare. My daughter teaches math and her room last year didn’t even have a window and the heat and ac was broke all year. Plus they had to keep the doors closed for “safety”.
 
I disagree with this. We tried that in our state and because people move between cities and counties it was ineffective to apply different rules to different areas.

In the school example you might have town A with very few cases while city B 100 miles away is spiking. It might sound logical to say town A goes back to in-person education while city B does it remotely. But then little Johnny from town B goes to visit his friend/family/a store/whatever in city B, comes in contact with the virus, and takes it back to town A where he infects his entire class.

If 100% of the people could be trusted to stay within a small radius of their homes and not move from highly impacted ares to low impacted areas and vice versa piecemeal would work. People can't be trusted to do that so one rule needs to be applied to regions and states.
So your thinking is the whole world is treated as one big group and we shouldn't individualize? I agree people will travel, but I respectfully disagree with your thinking. This virus isn't going away any time soon and we need to adjust as a society. Continuing to stay home and quarantined is having a negative impact of people losing jobs, children not getting a education and businesses closing. These negative impacts will take many years to reverse.
 
So your thinking is the whole world is treated as one big group and we shouldn't individualize? I agree people will travel, but I respectfully disagree with your thinking. This virus isn't going away any time soon and we need to adjust as a society. Continuing to stay home and quarantined is having a negative impact of people losing jobs, children not getting a education and businesses closing. These negative impacts will take many years to reverse.

And the negative impacts of permanent lung damage will never be reversed. Not a risk I’m willing to take just to make things “normal” right now.
 
And the negative impacts of permanent lung damage will never be reversed. Not a risk I’m willing to take just to make things “normal” right now.
There isn't making things normal right now. Wearing a mask hours on end can cause damage that we aren't aware of. The mental health damage we are doing by having kids and families isolated. People dying without loved ones can't be reversed.
The reality is the importance of doing what’s best for our children is just as important as health care, food supply, transportation, banking, and all the other business models our government has deemed essential. Their education and social development needs to be met.
 
This past virtual learning was not successful in my town and surrounding towns. I can say one of my children only met with her teacher for 15 minutes virtually weekly. Maybe if it was more successful we would have more faith in it.

We will not survive as a economy if we continue to be shut down. Businesses around me are already closing, people are losing their jobs. The shutdown was initiated to give hospitals time to get the appropriate equipment and get ready to care for a mass number of ill patients. It was not to be a long term shut down. We cannot remain closed until a vaccine. I'm a healthcare worker and have continued to work. Can people still get sick? Of course, but with proper equipment, good hand washing this disease can be slowed down. I know first hand how hospitals have been trying their best. We can't close down we need to continue to care for the sick. Grocery stores can't close down since people need food to survive. Schools are just as essential. Students need to learn and grow. Their future can be impacted immensely if they don't get a proper education. Why is a education not considered essential? How can children learn if they don't have internet, or their parents don't speak english, or they don't have a chromebook, or if they are on a IEP? There are many barriers to virtual learning. All I'm saying is a one size fits all is not the best approach. Some towns/cities have low numbers of cases, smaller class rooms, yet are still not opening as the states are all being lumped together versus individualized. New students graduating as teachers are not getting jobs, but need to pay their student loans. This continue thinking of closing everything until a vaccine is crippling our economy.

You stated that it isn't safe for essential workers and are giving the few examples of those that have gotten sick. Yet so many have worked without getting sick or dying. I know every life is worth living, but if I go by your thinking everyone should stay home, no essential worker should work. Sick people have no where to go or anyone to take care of them. If you agree essential people should still work and help these people. Then aren't teachers essential. They have always stated they were essential so now why in a pandemic does that change. People want to argue that teachers are at greater risk due to having so many kids in a classroom. Daycares have been opening, caring for essential workers childrens. Parents of these children worked with Covid patients and then brought their children into a confined space. Yet look at the numbers and you will see daycares have remained relatively safe and haven't increase the numbers of Covid cases.

We can't wait til there is a vaccine to continue living. We need to adjust and follow guidelines. People follow guidelines for wearing masks in public spaces and will confront someone who doesn't follow the guidelines. The CDC and American Pediatrics guideline both state it's safe for children to return to school.

Past virtual learning did not work in many places mostly because schools and staff were not prepared to pivot on a dime to distance learning. With 6 months having passed, hopefully, there is at least a little bit improvement in remote curriculum.

Nowhere in this country right now is there any complete “shutdown” or “lockdown” or any other term people like to use. Even in the hardest hit states such as FL, TX, and CA, business are open. Maybe not in the same exact method as before. But, you want to go shopping for things other than grocery? No problem. Many places are open for in-person shopping, or you can do curbside pickup at the very least. Sure, movie theaters and sports venues are closed, and I feel terribly sorry for whoever can’t watch a game or movie. Even with certain business and restaurants open, closures are still happening because many people just aren’t comfortable going out and about as usual. Has less to do with whether we are shutdown or not. Can’t force demand.

Daycares have been relatively calm regarding outbreaks, but they have not been immune. Don’t know about other states, but CA has a tally of number of cases arising from daycares. Plus, daycares don’t have the ~30 students that school classrooms typically have. And the children in daycare generally don’t switch around like students do in middle school and high school.

And, lastly, as I’ve said it before here, the AAP’s recommendation was just a majority vote among the board. They did not do any kind of survey to see what their member pediatricians think. The recommendations by individual peds will most likely vary across the country for various reasons. At least among my specific group of peds friends (as well as my father-in-law and my own kids’ doctor) in CA, none are choosing to do full-time in-person learning (if that option were to occur). Not saying this is the correct thought. But, just saying that not all doctors agree with that AAP recc.
 
Yes and the guidelines also talk about the ventilation systems which in many schools is a nightmare. My daughter teaches math and her room last year didn’t even have a window and the heat and ac was broke all year. Plus they had to keep the doors closed for “safety”.

You just described my classroom. Except I never had AC and the heat was broken for 31 years. Most of the time the winter temp in my room was around 60 with the blowers blowing cold outside air on us. If the heat did turn on, it would go over 85. Of course that only happened when it was in the teens or colder outside and everyone was dressed in heavy winter clothes. :rotfl2:
 
There isn't making things normal right now. Wearing a mask hours on end can cause damage that we aren't aware of. The mental health damage we are doing by having kids and families isolated. People dying without loved ones can't be reversed.
The reality is the importance of doing what’s best for our children is just as important as health care, food supply, transportation, banking, and all the other business models our government has deemed essential. Their education and social development needs to be met.
I agree with you but we have to keep things in perspective too. It has literally only been a few months. It is not like we have all been locked up quarantining for years on end. We also can’t just let this thing run unchecked because so many more will get sick and die needlessly.
Kids are more resilient than adults and feed off our cues. If we, as adults can keep a positive spin on things children will be much better. Unfortunately, we are seeing a lot of adults acting like children.😂
 













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