Are you breastfeeding a toddler?

[chobie]

Ok, just wondering and I see that noone really wishes to answer. Just found it interesting that some will claim us nonbf'ers as 'defensive' but some posts on here seem defensive as well.

Didn't want to start a debate, just curious and well that didn't serve the cat well now did it?

DisneyPhD post is much more diplomatic than mine so you might want to skip this...

About being defensive, maybe its your siggie. If you don't think its a big deal how one feeds their child then why do you brag about your choice in your siggie? Sounds kind of defensive.


You also talk about how judgmental and snarky we BF moms are then refer to our choice on how to feed our babies as "whipping our chest out" and I'm sure chest was not the word you really wanted to use. We're feeding our children the way nature intended, not posing for Playboy.


And talk about snarky-- your comment on the CB wins the award for the day.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=13860242#post13860242




As for the whole cup think and one year, if you are really that interested to prove your point that we are actually harming our children by nursing them after that one year milestone, you could do a little googling yourself rather than making snarky comments.

 

[noahynav]

Wow...chobie, I had not read the comment from the CB before this. I am shocked! I don't understand why, if she doesn't agree with extending nursing, does she keep coming on this thread to read about it? I don't get it? I was so thrilled when I first found this thread because it was drama free.....I had a feeling it was too good to last....so......

Schlepsnort....if you are SO SICK of hearing about it, like you so eloquently stated in that post of yours, STOP clicking on the thread. Real simple.

 

[DisneyPhD]

chobie, thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that post before. After reading it I am not feeing so diplomatic.

I will however try to be mature and simply say schlepsnort, that comment on the other thread was beyond rude and to come here and "ask a innocent question" after posting that is unbelievable.

I agree, if you are sick of seeing it, don't click on it. No one is asking you to. I don't know why you would in the 1st place. Really.

How is the fact that the thread continues to grow hurting you in anyway? And maybe you don't know this, but the more you post on this thread, the more it bumps it up.

 

[chobie]

Wow...chobie, I had not read the comment from the CB before this. I am shocked! I don't understand why, if she doesn't agree with extending nursing, does she keep coming on this thread to read about it? I don't get it? I was so thrilled when I first found this thread because it was drama free.....I had a feeling it was too good to last....so......

Schlepsnort....if you are SO SICK of hearing about it, like you so eloquently stated in that post of yours, STOP clicking on the thread. Real simple.

Exactly. If I had come across a thread entitled "Are you bottlefeeding your child?" I wouldn't have even opened it, let alone swooped in to make negative comments and then go on another thread to take digs at the bottle feeding thread.

And why do formula feeders think they are the only ones who have been critized for their choice? I personally had to put up with being asked "are you still doing THAT" from the time my first was 6 weeks old. I weaned my 1 st while pregant with the second because my family read somewhere that BF while pregnant can cause a miscarriage. And even though I had the evidence, plus my doctor's advice that it would not cause a miscarraige, I knew if something did happen they would always hold that against me.

Other women have been asked to leave public places while nursing. And the minute you mention you BF here on the Dis someone will call you Nazi.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

No, I am not breastfeeding a toddler, but I do have an opinion to share on this thread - I am not going to share my opinions because I haven't breastfed or bottlefed a child at any age since I don't have children, BUT as a woman I just want to say that I feel women as a whole are much harder on each other and more competitive than men are. I wish women would be supportive of women- whether they choose to breast feed or bottle feed, whether they choose to have kids or not, etc. Sharing opinions is great - and everyone deserves to do so - but no one is an inferior or superior woman or mother for any of these reasons. It makes me sad when anyone even suggests that.

 

[gottalovethem]

OK, so I'm guessing lots of moms on this thread can help me out. DS is 11 months, this is the longest I've nursed (other two I nursed 7 months and 10 months and they never had teeth). My n*pple (not sure if I can say that here) is REALLY sore. He got two teeth about a month ago and seems to be teething, but doesn't seem to use the teeth when he's nursing.

I am so NOT sure what I'm doing wrong, or how to fix it, but it's almost like we are starting from scratch with the soreness I am getting. Any ideas on this?

We are still nursing about 5-7 times a day including mid of night feedings. I am ready to wean down to just bedtimes, but am not quite sure how to go about doing that -- though the pain I am experiencing right now may help

BTW - someone mentioned that their older child didn't like the taste of the mommy milk, my kids have been known to drink it after I've pumped (though not all of it).

And like someone said, yes, it's liquid gold! I hate dumping that stuff. I do have a bunch in the freezer as DS has no interest in a bottle or even taking it in a sippy cup.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

No, I am not breastfeeding a toddler, but I do have an opinion to share on this thread - I am not going to share my opinions because I haven't breastfed or bottlefed a child at any age since I don't have children, BUT as a woman I just want to say that I feel women as a whole are much harder on each other and more competitive than men are. I wish women would be supportive of women- whether they choose to breast feed or bottle feed, whether they choose to have kids or not, etc. Sharing opinions is great - and everyone deserves to do so - but no one is an inferior or superior woman or mother for any of these reasons. It makes me sad when anyone even suggests that.

No one has suggested that here. Go back and re-read the entire thread if you don't believe me. Sheesh!

 

[TinkerbellMama]

BUT as a woman I just want to say that I feel women as a whole are much harder on each other and more competitive than men are. I wish women would be supportive of women- whether they choose to breast feed or bottle feed, whether they choose to have kids or not, etc.

And for what it's worth, this thread was not intended to debate extended breastfeeding, compare breastfeeding to bottlefeeding, or judge ANYONE for their individual choices. It was intended to provide a place for WOMEN WHO ARE NURSING TODDLERS to post and share their stories. Not to bash anyone and not to promote ourselves as superior. Those who are sick of reading this thread (not you, the other one ) might as well just save the time and energy and not bother. I truly don't understand why anyone who is NOT nursing a toddler (or specifically supportive of such) would even click on the thread, other than to harass those of us who do.

 

[chobie]

And for what it's worth, this thread was not intended to debate extended breastfeeding, compare breastfeeding to bottlefeeding, or judge ANYONE for their individual choices. It was intended to provide a place for WOMEN WHO ARE NURSING TODDLERS to post and share their stories. Not to bash anyone and not to promote ourselves as superior. Those who are sick of reading this thread (not you, the other one ) might as well just save the time and energy and not bother. I truly don't understand why anyone who is NOT nursing a toddler (or specifically supportive of such) would even click on the thread, other than to harass those of us who do.

Furthermore, not ONE mursing mom said that it made her a superior mother or critized bottle feeders. Bottle feeding has not even been mentioned by any of the nursing moms, because as you said the point of it was for nursing moms to support other nursing moms. Then all of a sudden after 8 pages someone jumps in to tell us how superior we are acting and then someone else tells us we are being judgmental. WTH?

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

And for what it's worth, this thread was not intended to debate extended breastfeeding, compare breastfeeding to bottlefeeding, or judge ANYONE for their individual choices. It was intended to provide a place for WOMEN WHO ARE NURSING TODDLERS to post and share their stories. Not to bash anyone and not to promote ourselves as superior. Those who are sick of reading this thread (not you, the other one ) might as well just save the time and energy and not bother. I truly don't understand why anyone who is NOT nursing a toddler (or specifically supportive of such) would even click on the thread, other than to harass those of us who do.

That was my point- that women should be supportive of women. I never said who did the bashing or who didn't- truthfully I didn't read the whole thread. I just saw the title of a thread that is supposed to be supportive but clicked and found a debate with some comments that surprised me.

This is at least the tenth thread recently that I've seen posted looking for support for legitimate decisions (not I want to sneak my family of ten into the Poly and feed them from the concierge lounge with my All Star Refillable mugs, is this ok ) These threads were like: "Marrieds without kids" or "Choosing to have a childfree wedding" or "Homeschooling" etc. where it degrades into a debate- complete with name calling, hysterics, etc. My post was really collectively addressing all this. My point was that harrassment has no place on any thread but that women, especially, should know better and let other women support women in their decisions without bashing them.

Do you see where I was going with this now?

And as to why I clicked- it keeps popping up as the top post in Disney for Families- whenever that happens, I get curious.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

Furthermore, not ONE mursing mom said that it made her a superior mother or critized bottle feeders. Bottle feeding has not even been mentioned by any of the nursing moms, because as you said the point of it was for nursing moms to support other nursing moms. Then all of a sudden after 8 pages someone jumps in to tell us how superior we are acting and then someone else tells us we are being judgmental. WTH?

I never said you were being judgmental, (I would never because I have strong feelings about that word) but I'm not sure who else you could be referring to. Read my second post. I am stating that women are too quick to jump on other women. I was *defending* your right to have this thread *without* it becoming a debate just like many other threads I've seen recently where others seeking support ended up defending their legitimate choices. If a woman starts a thread asking for other like minded women to support each other, out of courtesy it shouldn't become a debate. Debates can be on other threads. KWIM?

 

[TinkerbellMama]

That was my point- that women should be supportive of women. I never said who did the bashing or who didn't- truthfully I didn't read the whole thread. I just saw the title of a thread that is supposed to be supportive but clicked and found a debate with some comments that surprised me.

This is at least the tenth thread recently that I've seen posted looking for support for legitimate decisions (not I want to sneak my family of ten into the Poly and feed them from the concierge lounge with my All Star Refillable mugs, is this ok ) These threads were like: "Marrieds without kids" or "Choosing to have a childfree wedding" or "Homeschooling" etc. where it degrades into a debate- complete with name calling, hysterics, etc. My post was really collectively addressing all this. My point was that harrassment has no place on any thread but that women, especially, should know better and let other women support women in their decisions without bashing them.

Do you see where I was going with this now?

And as to why I clicked- it keeps popping up as the top post in Disney for Families- whenever that happens, I get curious.

Okay, I gotcha now.
I agree that people on the Dis and everywhere else need to practice a little more diplomacy. I'm sure I'm as guilty as the next person, too, but I do make an effort.
And btw, I am planning to divorce my husband so I can have a childfree wedding to someone else and then take my new family pool hopping with our refillable mugs while homeschooling them.

ETA: NOT that there is ANYTHING wrong with having a childfree wedding, or homeschooling. Just wanted to clear that up before certain people go postal on me!

 

[chobie]

I never said you were being judgmental, (I would never because I have strong feelings about that word) but I'm not sure who else you could be referring to. Read my second post. I am stating that women are too quick to jump on other women. I was *defending* your right to have this thread *without* it becoming a debate just like many other threads I've seen recently where others seeking support ended up defending their legitimate choices. If a woman starts a thread asking for other like minded women to support each other, out of courtesy it shouldn't become a debate. Debates can be on other threads. KWIM?

No I was reffering to the poster on page 8 who jumped in just to tell us we were acting superior. She was not treated with because she came in to insult us. Then schelpshort came in to say how judgmental we were because of how we reacted to being insulted and then went onto another thread to insult us there.

So, I did read your post like you were chiding both sides equally, but having read every post on this thread none of the nursing mothers deserve to be chided because not one said anything degrogatory about non-nursing moms.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

Okay, I gotcha now.
I agree that people on the Dis and everywhere else need to practice a little more diplomacy. I'm sure I'm as guilty as the next person, too, but I do make an effort.
And btw, I am planning to divorce my husband so I can have a childfree wedding to someone else and then take my new family pool hopping with our refillable mugs while homeschooling them.

I'm glad you got where I was going. Enjoy your new life And now I will sing "I Am Strong, I Am Invincible, I Am Woman" as I take my exit. Good night, ladies. Keep supporting each other- we (all women) need it.

 

[AngieWin]

Hey MDC moms! Maybe we need our own Disney-lovin/Dis tribe over there??

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

No I was reffering to the poster on page 8 who jumped in just to tell us we were acting superior. She was not treated with because she came in to insult us. Then schelpshort came in to say how judgmental we were because of how we reacted to being insulted and then went onto another thread to insult us there.

So, I did read your post like you were chiding both sides equally, but having read every post on this thread none of the nursing mothers deserve to be chided because not one said anything degrogatory about non-nursing moms.

I wasn't really chiding both sides equally- no one should have hijacked this thread in the first place- just observing that no matter *what* the issue, someone will interrupt a supportive thread to debate the issue the OP was looking for support over. I have experienced this on numerous threads like I explained earlier and I just think women need to be more supportive of each other. Even if I disagree with something (let's just say liposuction, even though I'd get it tomorrow if I could) If someone asks for support in their plastic surgery recovery, women should either be supportive or ignore it. If someone posts "What do you think of pl. surg" then that's different. KWIM? One view isn't better than the other, but there's a diff. between support threads and debate threads. And this should get back to being a support thread, so now that I've made my point that you have the right to a supportive thread, get to it Get back on topic and ignore anyone else.

 

[chobie]

OK, so I'm guessing lots of moms on this thread can help me out. DS is 11 months, this is the longest I've nursed (other two I nursed 7 months and 10 months and they never had teeth). My n*pple (not sure if I can say that here) is REALLY sore. He got two teeth about a month ago and seems to be teething, but doesn't seem to use the teeth when he's nursing.

I am so NOT sure what I'm doing wrong, or how to fix it, but it's almost like we are starting from scratch with the soreness I am getting. Any ideas on this?

We are still nursing about 5-7 times a day including mid of night feedings. I am ready to wean down to just bedtimes, but am not quite sure how to go about doing that -- though the pain I am experiencing right now may help

BTW - someone mentioned that their older child didn't like the taste of the mommy milk, my kids have been known to drink it after I've pumped (though not all of it).

And like someone said, yes, it's liquid gold! I hate dumping that stuff. I do have a bunch in the freezer as DS has no interest in a bottle or even taking it in a sippy cup.

Bumping this up so we can get this thread back to its original intent.

I don't know what to say about the soreness. I remember being bit a couple times but dont' remember the pain going on for very long. But it has been 7.5 years since I went thru this.

Does anyone else have any advice?

 

[chobie]

I wasn't really chiding both sides equally- no one should have hijacked this thread in the first place- just observing that no matter *what* the issue, someone will interrupt a supportive thread to debate the issue the OP was looking for support over. I have experienced this on numerous threads like I explained earlier and I just think women need to be more supportive of each other. Even if I disagree with something (let's just say liposuction, even though I'd get it tomorrow if I could) If someone asks for support in their plastic surgery recovery, women should either be supportive or ignore it. If someone posts "What do you think of pl. surg" then that's different. KWIM? One view isn't better than the other, but there's a diff. between support threads and debate threads. And this should get back to being a support thread, so now that I've made my point that you have the right to a supportive thread, get to it Get back on topic and ignore anyone else.

Great advice and thanks for the support.

 

[AngieWin]

Bumping this up so we can get this thread back to its original intent.

I don't know what to say about the soreness. I remember being bit a couple times but dont' remember the pain going on for very long. But it has been 7.5 years since I went thru this.

Does anyone else have any advice?

Chobie

With both of my boys I did go through a short period of soreness when the teeth started coming in(DS1-9 and DS2-7 months). But it DID go away and we continued on. It could be that your ds has changed his latch because of his teeth and that could be causing the soreness. Unlatch him and see if you can get a more comfortable position. Or try changing how he is laying (cradle, football, sidelying) and see if that relieves any of it. Good luck and it should get better!

 

[diselderm]

Hey-- I was just going to say that I nursed dd til 20 mo and now ds at 14 mo. I'm so glad to hear that I'm not the only one still getting up 2-3 times in the middle of the night! I've felt it was my weakness that has kept his nighttime wakings up. My dd woke up a lot too, but of course sleeps just fine now at 4.