Are the Pirates of the Caribbean boats still taking on water?

[keypooh90]

Wow. Did not realize this was an issue. Like alot of other folks, I like floating in the water without getting wet.

Me too!

 

[Dani's First Time]

I never knew about the new boats either but was shocked how wet we got the last time we rode. We were in the last two rows on the left hand side coming down the big hill. The boat was definitely listing to that side because of some weight the third row from the back.

When I say wet, I mean soaked. My 5 year old was along the edge and I had to take him into a restroom to change him. I could wring out his underwear. If he had walked around in that all day, he would have had some major chaffing. My left foot was saturated. Everyone was laughing at my reaction until they saw how wet the two of us were. I made wet footprints for about an hour. The padding in my sneaker was soaked through and I don't typically have spare shoes at MK.

I am talking Kali River Rapids wet feet and undies. It's nice to know why!

 

[TheyThinkImCrazy]

Around very late July - beginning of August 2013.

DH and I had heard about the new boats and the water issue prior to our trip last Oct so we were expecting to get a bit wet. We rode several times during our trip and although our boat was wet on the floor when we got in, we didn't get soaked. But - I will also say that our boats were not full either. Think as others have stated it would really depend on the weight of the whole boat and the distribution of the weight.

I think you are right about weight distribution being a problem. We were there a few weeks ago and were put into a row with a couple of people that were much larger than my husband and I. We were in the second row, and there was a lot of water on the floor when we got in, but the boat was listing to the other side so we weren't the ones getting wet. The person on the other end was soaked. Our boat actually derailed and shut down the ride, and I am convinced that it was the weight distribution thing. It is definitely something that I will be more aware of in the future.

 

[Kellykins1218]

We were there last week and had heard on here that people were getting soaked. I was actually looking forward to getting a little wet since it was so hot & humid. We were in a full boat with mostly large adults and didn't even get a drop of water on us.

 

[TooExcitedCantSleep]

I keep reading about the "Laws of Gravity" and how all overweight folk sink all of the Disney boats on one side or the heaviest people getting the most wet on this forum. So if I....weighing 140 pounds ----137 on a good day,,, were the only person on the POTC ride or Friendship boat and I sit way on the side am I to assume that the boat will automatically heel to that side and I will be soaked because there is no one else of equal weight to balance the boat???? Or if I were the heaviest person on a boat with a small child am I certain to get wet??? Where does this stuff come from??? It is very important to acknowledge Archimedes' principle.....the delicate art of the force of buoyancy versus the force of gravity!!!!

"Buoyancy force = weight of object in empty space − weight of object immersed in fluid." When any boat displaces a weight of water equal to its own weight, it floats. This is often called the "principle of flotation": A floating object displaces a weight of fluid equal to its own weight. Every ship, submarine, and dirigible must be designed to displace a weight of fluid equal to its own weight. A 10,000-ton ship must be built wide enough to displace 10,000 tons of water before it sinks too deep in the water. The same is true for vessels in air: a dirigible that weighs 100 tons needs to displace 100 tons of air. If it displaces more, it rises; if it displaces less, it falls. If the dirigible displaces exactly its weight, it hovers at a constant altitude." -wikipedia

Disney's boats are designed with maximum stability and will not heel over in any direction..... so long as the weight does not exceed the vessel!!!! Disney's newer boats have increased buoyancy to support several hundred more pounds of capacity. I believe it would take much more than a couple of overweight people for the boat to sink on one side!!

This is the only boat that capsized and dumped everyone into the Rivers of America!!!! It closed for good in 2001!!

Guests are getting wet because of a design flaw in the new boats not because of overweight guests!! Disney's boats will not become unstable unless weight capacity is exceeded!! And- that is a serious violation subject to Federal law!!

 

[rstamm]

We rode a few times in June and didn't get wet at all and didn't notice anyone in the boat that got wet.

 

[ForeverAlice]

Went in may and noticed the water in the last row ( where we sat on the right) so i had ds squish in close to me and he didn't get splashed- but the back of the seat after the drop felt like it scraped our backs so we checked in the restroom no scrape just red. I don't know if its a last row thong or whole boat thing. A lDh says its because we have bony backs Oh a lady in front of us put her poncho on in the queue which was weird...

 

[JVP1]

My daughter and I got soaked on it recently. We never got wet on Pirates before. Plus it was night time and a little to cool to walk around wet.

Title pretty much says it. I read here some weeks back that redesigned PoC boats were getting sloppy with lots of water coming in and soaking shoes. Any update?

Thanks.

 

[mom2rtk]

Oh a lady in front of us put her poncho on in the queue which was weird...

Word must be getting around.

 

[JimmyV]

What you say is generally true, especially for the size of boats that you show in the pictures. But the PoTC boats are much smaller, are not designed by marine engineers for free-floating propulsion, and are definitely effected by uneven weight distribution. These boats have no keel. 140 pounds might not shift a boat with a 70 pound child on the other side. But a couple of 240 pounders would cause a list, no doubt about it. And if that side of the boat tilts toward the water, it has a greater chance of taking on water. Bouyancy is one thing. Ballast is another. Weight (or load) distribution definitely play a role in stability independent of bouyancy.

I keep reading about the "Laws of Gravity" and how all overweight folk sink all of the Disney boats on one side or the heaviest people getting the most wet on this forum. So if I....weighing 140 pounds ----137 on a good day,,, were the only person on the POTC ride or Friendship boat and I sit way on the side am I to assume that the boat will automatically heel to that side and I will be soaked because there is no one else of equal weight to balance the boat???? Or if I were the heaviest person on a boat with a small child am I certain to get wet??? Where does this stuff come from??? It is very important to acknowledge Archimedes' principle.....the delicate art of the force of buoyancy versus the force of gravity!!!!

"Buoyancy force = weight of object in empty space − weight of object immersed in fluid." When any boat displaces a weight of water equal to its own weight, it floats. This is often called the "principle of flotation": A floating object displaces a weight of fluid equal to its own weight. Every ship, submarine, and dirigible must be designed to displace a weight of fluid equal to its own weight. A 10,000-ton ship must be built wide enough to displace 10,000 tons of water before it sinks too deep in the water. The same is true for vessels in air: a dirigible that weighs 100 tons needs to displace 100 tons of air. If it displaces more, it rises; if it displaces less, it falls. If the dirigible displaces exactly its weight, it hovers at a constant altitude." -wikipedia

Disney's boats are designed with maximum stability and will not heel over in any direction..... so long as the weight does not exceed the vessel!!!! Disney's newer boats have increased buoyancy to support several hundred more pounds of capacity. I believe it would take much more than a couple of overweight people for the boat to sink on one side!!

This is the only boat that capsized and dumped everyone into the Rivers of America!!!! It closed for good in 2001!!

Guests are getting wet because of a design flaw in the new boats not because of overweight guests!! Disney's boats will not become unstable unless weight capacity is exceeded!! And- that is a serious violation subject to Federal law!!

 

[PinkBudgie]

DLR vet here who went to WDW for the first time at the end of June. I had read about the POTC boats and tried to be ready. We rode it twice and didn't get wet or bump knees. I was on the edge and felt a little bit of water on my arm. But certainly not soaked or all over. However, we were very surprised when the two of us got on and they went ahead pushed in two more strangers in the same row with us! It was very squishy and DH and I are not large people. At DL, if we are only two, we get our own row. I've only seen four people in a row if they are a group. So maybe that has something to do with it. Putting too many people in the boat.

 

[AKies47]

DLR vet here who went to WDW for the first time at the end of June. I had read about the POTC boats and tried to be ready. We rode it twice and didn't get wet or bump knees. I was on the edge and felt a little bit of water on my arm. But certainly not soaked or all over. However, we were very surprised when the two of us got on and they went ahead pushed in two more strangers in the same row with us! It was very squishy and DH and I are not large people. At DL, if we are only two, we get our own row. I've only seen four people in a row if they are a group. So maybe that has something to do with it. Putting too many people in the boat.

I experienced this as well during my trip in May. I think they're trying to squeeze in as many as possible. On the TTA, they forced my family of 5 adults into one car.

 

[mom2rtk]

I experienced this as well during my trip in May. I think they're trying to squeeze in as many as possible. On the TTA, they forced my family of 5 adults into one car.

I can't even imagine.

Just wait until they add FP to TTA.

 

[miksilver]

DLR vet here who went to WDW for the first time at the end of June. I had read about the POTC boats and tried to be ready. We rode it twice and didn't get wet or bump knees. I was on the edge and felt a little bit of water on my arm. But certainly not soaked or all over. However, we were very surprised when the two of us got on and they went ahead pushed in two more strangers in the same row with us! It was very squishy and DH and I are not large people. At DL, if we are only two, we get our own row. I've only seen four people in a row if they are a group. So maybe that has something to do with it. Putting too many people in the boat.

They were squishing adults when we rode last week as well. There was a party of 8 adults. They split them 4 and 4, but even though they were "average size" they barely fit! My DH and I (both on the large side) got a row by ourselves with our DD. The man in front of us was complaining and he had a point -- they had NO room and a super tight fit. Talk about being close to your family. The CM just kept saying to him -- " the rows are designed for 4 adults" -- like that would change something. The horrible thing was -- our boat wasn't even full! The ride was a walk on at night! Also because there were 8 adults up front they got really wet on the drop. I felt bad for them when we got off the ride.

 

[PinkBudgie]

They were squishing adults when we rode last week as well. There was a party of 8 adults. They split them 4 and 4, but even though they were "average size" they barely fit! My DH and I (both on the large side) got a row by ourselves with our DD. The man in front of us was complaining and he had a point -- they had NO room and a super tight fit. Talk about being close to your family. The CM just kept saying to him -- " the rows are designed for 4 adults" -- like that would change something. The horrible thing was -- our boat wasn't even full! The ride was a walk on at night! Also because there were 8 adults up front they got really wet on the drop. I felt bad for them when we got off the ride.

That's just ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that was crazy. We like the DL one better anyway. More drops, more scenes, less squishy. (Although we did like the line being inside better)

 

[TheyThinkImCrazy]

That's just ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that was crazy. We like the DL one better anyway. More drops, more scenes, less squishy. (Although we did like the line being inside better)

We feel the same way about POTC at DL. I kept waiting for more drops and was disappointed.

We were so crammed in our row (on the boat that derailed with us on it), that my husband had to have his arm around me for us to fit- we didn't fit the normal shoulder to shoulder way, and we are not big people. It was so weird to be shoved in like that. At least we had an adventure.lol