Are average children

[dngnb8]

Or posters who are just to dense to grasp the satire behind a thread and simply take it as one more thing to become offended by. (troll maybe?)

Who said I didnt grasp the satire. I have on numerous occasions in this thread called the thread "satire"? Or are you to dense to understand what I posted?

Can someone explain to me why these gifted high school students need so much help with homework and projects from their parents (and thus- the dis).

This would take some time, but simplified, kids who exhibit what most call giftedness, learn differently. I tried to show that in the post using piston and rotary engines. its not a simple concept to convey, except to say, their process of learning is not like most peoples.

 

[MnMomtoboys]

I'm not seeing anyone making fun of anyone?

Have you not read dngnb8's posts?

 

[dngnb8]

I'm not seeing anyone making fun of anyone?

This thread (admittedly by several) is satirical in nature about parents talking about their gifted kids etc.

 

[mickeyboat]

I see what you're saying. I can definitely see your point. I definitely think it doesn't make as much difference how the classes are organized in elementary school, or even middle school.

It is nice to share points of view respectfully, isn't it?

I have two DDs in the same grade, and one I would conside above average and one average. The above average child doesn't receive any special instruction outside of the regular classroom, but I do see that her teacher challenges her differently than my average child's teacher. She grades her tougher on all of her work - taking half points off here and there for minor mistakes, making comments that even though her answer is a good one, there are ways it could be improved. Many of her lessons are tailored to her abilities - for example her spelling assignments every week are based on words she misspelled in her previous week's assignments. Her classmates know that she is smart, but since no one makes a huge deal out of it, she doesn't get teased. Actually I think most of her classmates respect her intelligence - maybe because they aren't seeing her getting any kind of special treatment.

And although I think there are times when she is bored with school, and times when she is more than a little annoyed because many students don't take it as seriously as she does, I tell her that she needs to buck up and deal with it. Soon enough she will be in classrooms with students who are as serious about school as she is. I have taught her to really enjoy what she is learning - (she loves science and social studies). I have taught her to always do her very best and to work hard - which are the qualities that will be taking her places.

 

[wvjules]

Have you not read dngnb8's posts?

I'm talking about him saying that people in this thread are making fun of the gifted kids.

 

[RabbitFood]

Actually, the OP of this thread was simply wondering whether anyone on the Dis had average kids. Nothing satirical or malicious or even malodorous about it.

 

[dngnb8]

Actually, the OP of this thread was simply wondering whether anyone on the Dis had average kids. Nothing satirical or malicious or even malodorous about it.

Funny, others disagree with you who have average kids. It has actually been mentioned numerous times.

 

[dngnb8]

I'm talking about him saying that people in this thread are making fun of the gifted kids.

I may not have been clear. This thread is about the volume of parents who have said they have gifted kids. It was done in satire because it seems every parent see's their own child as special in some way. The thread showed up shortly after a thread about whether a parent should mention her childs IQ to her child.

My first post was

Why does this thread not surprise me. My daughter has had to deal with this type of "humor" her whole life. She has been made to feel guilty because she was different then "average" kids.

Now I know where the kids get it.

It was a statement that what we do and how we act as adults is how we teach our children how to act. The statement, "Now I know where the kids get it. " it what conveys that point.

Needless to say, I ruffled a few feathers of those who felt it was okay to satirize gifted families without thinking there maybe gifted families posting.

 

[ols386]

It does seem as though many (not all) on the dis boards talk about their children either being gifted or special needs.

I think now days children are categorized much more than they were years ago. When I was a kid we were all pretty much lumped into one big group, except for children who were in special ed, and in the school where I attended, that classroom had just a small number of children in it.

I'm not sure if categorizing children like our system does is good for kids or not. In some situations it may be good, and in others, maybe not so much.

 

[dngnb8]

It does seem as though many (not all) on the dis boards talk about their children either being gifted or special needs.

I think now days children are categorized much more than they were years ago. When I was a kid we were all pretty much lumped into one big group, except for children who were in special ed, and in the school where I attended, that classroom had just a small number of children in it.

I'm not sure if categorizing children like our system does is good for kids or not. In some situations it may be good, and in others, maybe not so much.

I also think that we are better at identifying these traits. We have learned more about what this difference is, and have created better testing.

 

[DMRick]

Or do you teach your children to be mean to others simply because they are different?

Wow, where the heck is that coming from?

Perhaps you need to go to your child's school and talk with the guidance department, to see how this should be handled. If you feel your child is being teased, or bullied because she is smart, enough so that it really bothers her, perhaps they can help you help her. Perhaps your DD needs to try to hang close with her friends, so the teasing will have less affect on her. We've had our fair share of smarties in our family, and like I said, my son was in the g & t program, but it really wouldn't have bothered him if kids said the things you say are bothering your daughter (and maybe they did, and he just never talked about it). My grandson is prob considered a nerd, but he doesn't care (we have laughed about it with him). He's got good friends, and those are the only people whose opinions matter to him.

 

[SaraJayne]

I may not have been clear. This thread is about the volume of parents who have said they have gifted kids. It was done in satire because it seems every parent see's their own child as special in some way. The thread showed up shortly after a thread about whether a parent should mention her childs IQ to her child.

My first post was



It was a statement that what we do and how we act as adults is how we teach our children how to act. The statement, "Now I know where the kids get it. " it what conveys that point.

Needless to say, I ruffled a few feathers of those who felt it was okay to satirize gifted families without thinking there may be gifted families posting.

Since you're new here, having an average child is the minority.

Children of Dissers are either exceptionally gifted or "on the spectrum". There are very few in between.

 

[RabbitFood]

Now we're talking about "gifted families"? What is a "gifted family"?!?!

 

[SaraJayne]

I also think that we are better at identifying these traits. We have learned more about what this difference is, and have created better testing.

I disagree. It's all about slapping labels on, because Mommy and Daddy typically demand one.

 

[morethananyonex]

It seems to me that the problem may be a feeling of superiority coming from atleast one parent here that is contributing to the child being picked on. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the child picked up on this as well over the years and her peers realize this too.

Like someone said earlier (concerning their own child I believe), who is the common denominator in all these situations? Usually the perpetual victim isn't 100% innocent.

 

[LisaR]

Thank you for your advice. I prefer to stay here and continue to contribute to the boards. Im sorry if my opinion of others making fun of parents of these children seems to be an issue to you.

thank you for your concern

Sometimes, it really does help to take a breather and go back and read your own posts. I know I have gotten carried away on some posts and I have to take a step back and really look hard at myself and see if I was taking things too personally.

You really are taking things personally. I am truly sorry your child was picked on in the earlier grades. I honestly think that those that pick on others would do so no matter what. If those kids didn't pick on your child for being smart, they would have picked on her for her weight, hair, nose, shoes, etc. Kids can be ruthless and nothing is off limits for some.

If my son ever experienced what you claim your daughter experienced, I would have pulled him from that school faster than you could blink. I would not allow my son to purposely throw tests so people wouldn't pick on him. It wouldn't have been an option and I would have found an environment that was more conducive to his learning. You can only blame the other parents and kids for so long. Eventually, as the parent, you must step up and grab the bull by the horns. It was up to you to find the right environment for her BEFORE it ruined her self esteem. You can not be responsible for the actions of others. There will always be jerks out there.

As for others making fun of gifted students, I just don't see that. Again, I think you are taking things far too personally. Please point out something specific that someone has said and I will gladly defend you. Maybe I missed a post along the way. I do believe we all have different opinions on what constitutes a gifted child but I never read anyone making fun of a smart child. Based on how personally you are taking this post and seeing ridicule where there isn't any, it does draw into question how bullied your child really was. Sometimes parents can ramp up the situation so much that the child begins to perceive things that aren't really there.

 

[Planogirl]

I sometimes think that constantly labeling kids does more harm to them than any thread on a message board. Kids seem to usually want to fit in but always being treated like they are so different from others might just set them apart.

 

[wvjules]

I disagree. It's all about slapping labels on, because Mommy and Daddy typically demand one.

Exactly what I said in another thread.

 

[Goofyluver]

Elementary school called.

They wonder how they're supposed to teach the kids to act more grown-up when this is how some of their parents act.

 

[Magpie]

Sometimes, it really does help to take a breather and go back and read your own posts. I know I have gotten carried away on some posts and I have to take a step back and really look hard at myself and see if I was taking things too personally.

You really are taking things personally. I am truly sorry your child was picked on in the earlier grades. I honestly think that those that pick on others would do so no matter what. If those kids didn't pick on your child for being smart, they would have picked on her for her weight, hair, nose, shoes, etc. Kids can be ruthless and nothing is off limits for some.

If my son ever experienced what you claim your daughter experienced, I would have pulled him from that school faster than you could blink. I would not allow my son to purposely throw tests so people wouldn't pick on him. It wouldn't have been an option and I would have found an environment that was more conducive to his learning. You can only blame the other parents and kids for so long. Eventually, as the parent, you must step up and grab the bull by the horns. It was up to you to find the right environment for her BEFORE it ruined her self esteem. You can not be responsible for the actions of others. There will always be jerks out there.

As for others making fun of gifted students, I just don't see that. Again, I think you are taking things far too personally. Please point out something specific that someone has said and I will gladly defend you. Maybe I missed a post along the way. I do believe we all have different opinions on what constitutes a gifted child but I never read anyone making fun of a smart child. Based on how personally you are taking this post and seeing ridicule where there isn't any, it does draw into question how bullied your child really was. Sometimes parents can ramp up the situation so much that the child begins to perceive things that aren't really there.

I also sometimes have to remind myself to "step away, step away from the computer!"