AP's to get 20 FP+ per quarter

[Cyrano]

Thread cleaning complete.

 

[mbrittb00]

Thread cleaning complete.

Thanks this thread was starting to get a bit nasty.


In the absence of this thread there was another thread opened on the FP+ subject in general that has a good discussion going. I would recomend that we all switch over to that one (since it has a more FP+ generic title) and continue the discussion there.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3040015

 

[mousermerf]

I mentioned that I believed the "gap" between FP distribution and return time was going to be eliminated, so there wouldn't be a morning window to do standby with a shorter wait because FP wasn't "returning" yet.

Found proof:

 

[doconeill]

I mentioned that I believed the "gap" between FP distribution and return time was going to be eliminated, so there wouldn't be a morning window to do standby with a shorter wait because FP wasn't "returning" yet.

Found proof:

FP distribution may not change, although FP+ might allow for "immediate" FP+ if available at the time.

That screenshot would have been from a testing phase anyways, and does not indicate how it will be in practice...especially since the number of people participating in the test was relatively small.

 

[mousermerf]

FP distribution may not change, although FP+ might allow for "immediate" FP+ if available at the time.

That screenshot would have been from a testing phase anyways, and does not indicate how it will be in practice...especially since the number of people participating in the test was relatively small.

You're wrong.

 

[doconeill]

You're wrong.

Seriously? Please explain.

 

[mousermerf]

Seriously? Please explain.

You consistently deny evidence in order to support what you want to be true. It will not be true and you will be proven wrong and it's just a matter of time. I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to wait and it'll happen on its own. I do wish you'd not confuse people or give them false hopes or ya know, ruin their vacations by telling them not to plan ahead for what is inevitably coming.

 

[mom2rtk]

You consistently deny evidence in order to support what you want to be true. It will not be true and you will be proven wrong and it's just a matter of time. I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to wait and it'll happen on its own. I do wish you'd not confuse people or give them false hopes or ya know, ruin their vacations by telling them not to plan ahead for what is inevitably coming.

And what "planning ahead" is it that you suggest?

It will be what it is. Planning won't change anything.

 

[doconeill]

You consistently deny evidence in order to support what you want to be true. It will not be true and you will be proven wrong and it's just a matter of time. I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to wait and it'll happen on its own. I do wish you'd not confuse people or give them false hopes or ya know, ruin their vacations by telling them not to plan ahead for what is inevitably coming.

I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about.

You provided a screenshot of one screen from a limited testing period, and claim it is is proof of something. I'm not entirely sure what "proof" you are referring to, or what you mean by a "gap". Do you mean when the first slots will be available compared to the park opening (can't tell that from the screen, really), or between the experiences themselves (there are gaps shown). Or what? The time before you can get another one? That's a FP feature which doesn't necessarily translate to FP+.

Again, this was a TESTING period. How it will function when formally rolled out may be completely different.

Can you please tell me what I want to be true? Because I haven't the foggiest idea. I'm simply pointing out the fact that the tests do not indicate for absolute certain how it will work.

NO ONE CAN MAKE PLAN FOR THIS YET. Period. People are free to draw their own conclusions, which may or may not be wrong. I'm not saying for certain things will change. I'm saying they CAN change.

 

[mousermerf]

You stated exactly what you wanted in the other thread:

No discontinuation of FP.

No FP+ selection "groups" that force guests not to pick nothing but e-tickers.

FP is being discontinued and there will be groups that are intended to prevent guests from getting FP+ for all the headliners in a given park at once.

 

[doconeill]

You stated exactly what you wanted in the other thread:

No discontinuation of FP.

No FP+ selection "groups" that force guests not to pick nothing but e-tickers.

FP is being discontinued and there will be groups that are intended to prevent guests from getting FP+ for all the headliners in a given park at once.

You're right. I said what I would like in the other thread. It has NOTHING to do with what I posted and to which you simply decided that I was "wrong". I did not say there won't be groups in my post above, or that FP won't be discontinued. Your attack has no relation to my post.

But I'm not sure what evidence there is right now that FP is going away. Sure, it could be, but right now it's pretty obvious that the two will be running at the same time for at least a while.

My opinion? The fact that they are already limiting me on the number of FP+ options greatly reduces the ability to get headliners. Especially if they provide additional "experiences" that would be unique enough.

And this thread is quickly heading to be shut down again.

 

[Sammie]

if there is to be nothing offered but fastpass+ why did they include this in the terms and restrictions.

You are required to convert paper tickets and passes in order to make and use FastPass+ selections. Once you convert a ticket or pass you will no longer be able to participate in the standard FASTPASS service upon arrival at the parks.

 

[g-dad66]

if there is to be nothing offered but fastpass+ why did they include this in the terms and restrictions.

OP has said that during a transition period, both FP and FP+ will be options, but eventually it will be FP+ only.

 

[Sammie]

OP has said that during a transition period, both FP and FP+ will be options, but eventually it will be FP+ only.

Ok, so really there is no way to know when and if anything will change. As with all things Disney, wait and see.

 

[bcrook]

Ok, so really there is no way to know when and if anything will change. As with all things Disney, wait and see.

Ah, but we have discovered much from these threads. I understand quite a bit right now, I know the direction things are going, there are a few paths Disney can take, but we have probably mentioned them. The app and term and conditions are enlightening. There are a few curveballs coming, but I am prepared for the best and the worst.

I do think it matters to have at least speculation. I needed to make a decision about buying the DVC PAP for $399.00 before jan 1. I was ready to invest $1600.00. But because of this peak into the what ifs, I feel I made the correct decision and not purchase. Disney was encouraging me to invest in the next year but keeping their cards close to their vest.

I have two trips coming up this year, I can go to wdw, universal, or both on either trip. I would like to know more before I invest in something so costly.

 

[Sammie]

Ah, but we have discovered much from these threads. I understand quite a bit right now, I know the direction things are going, there are a few paths Disney can take, but we have probably mentioned them. The app and term and conditions are enlightening. There are a few curveballs coming, but I am prepared for the best and the worst.

I do think it matters to have at least speculation. I needed to make a decision about buying the DVC PAP for $399.00 before jan 1. I was ready to invest $1600.00. But because of this peak into the what ifs, I feel I made the correct decision and not purchase. Disney was encouraging me to invest in the next year but keeping their cards close to their vest.

I have two trips coming up this year, I can go to wdw, universal, or both on either trip. I would like to know more before I invest in something so costly.

All that can possibly be gathered is guesses as to how it will play out. Until it is implemented and tweaked, there truly is no way. Previous Disney programs have proved that to be truth.

 

[Planogirl]

If the park truly become FP+ only, I can't see us going any more. We are not super planners and trying to plan a handful of passes so rigidly and then waiting in regular lines for the rest just seems like a nightmare. I hope that anyone saying this is wrong.

 

[mbrittb00]

If the park truly become FP+ only, I can't see us going any more. We are not super planners and trying to plan a handful of passes so rigidly and then waiting in regular lines for the rest just seems like a nightmare. I hope that anyone saying this is wrong.

I'm with you. We are planners, but that level of planning is even beyond us. All the info we have seen thus far, does defiantly suggest that FP as we know it will eventually go away. But something about that just doesn't make since. Taking fast passes out of the hands of people will cause them to spend more time waiting in lines, rather than doing other things in the parks (i.e. spending money).

 

[Sammie]

Plus I know that it is hard for many to conceive that people do not have smart phones, or pads, but many don't.

I personally don't. I just can not see this being very user friendly to all the snowbirds, grandparents that take the grand kids to the parks.

Will you be able to access it on a standard PC or laptop?

Plus the OP keeps referring to info on the website about the number of passes for resort guests, etc. I have read the new website over and over and I see none of this info referred to. Is everyone else seeing it.

 

[mbrittb00]

Plus I know that it is hard for many to conceive that people do not have smart phones, or pads, but many don't.

I personally don't. I just can not see this being very user friendly to all the snowbirds, grandparents that take the grand kids to the parks.

Will you be able to access it on a standard PC or laptop?

Plus the OP keeps referring to info on the website about the number of passes for resort guests, etc. I have read the new website over and over and I see none of this info referred to. Is everyone else seeing it.

I read somewhere recently that there would be Kiosks around the park where you could check and adjust your FP+ reservations.