Apparently I dislike FP+...alot

[mom2rtk]

If it's not a walk-on, it's a walk by for us.

Well put!

 

[Disneylover99]

So, from your personal experience when you visited in August, the crowds were about the same or less than on previous visits at the same time? Also, the wait times for secondary attractions was up, but headliners were down. Did you think you spent more time, less time, or about the same amount of time in lines as compared to previous visits?

We did not spend a lot of time in line because we typically do rope drop or go really late during extra magic hours. But we also did fewer attractions each day because of mid afternoon lines. We hate lines and avoid them at all costs. We still had a great time, but did less, attraction wise. We found the lines at the kiosks to make your fourth FP not too long, but very slow moving. So we never got a fourth FP.

 

[Disneylover99]

This is obviously pure hyperbole at it's finest

My experiences are not an exaggeration. They're just observations from my last trip in comparison to previous trips.

 

[dmychuds]

People post stuff like this and I can think is "so what?"

Not going because you're upset about something isn't an attraction or a strategy.

 

[Laketravis]

My experiences are not an exaggeration. They're just observations from my last trip in comparison to previous trips.

Exactly - and I put much more credibility into someone's actual experiences than I do someone's speculation.

 

[Disneylover99]

Exactly - and I put much more credibility into someone's actual experiences than I do someone's speculation.

Thanks!

 

[Suvadoo]

People post stuff like this and I can think is "so what?"

Not going because you're upset about something isn't an attraction or a strategy.

Personally, I find it very helpful for trip planning. However f I didn't, I'd not bother to post I'd just move on to a different thread.

 

[dmychuds]

To me it just seems like posting on a website dedicated to a movie and saying "I don't like how it looks I'm not going to go see it." Who does that serve? It helps nothing.

 

[Suvadoo]

We did not spend a lot of time in line because we typically do rope drop or go really late during extra magic hours. But we also did fewer attractions each day because of mid afternoon lines. We hate lines and avoid them at all costs. We still had a great time, but did less, attraction wise. We found the lines at the kiosks to make your fourth FP not too long, but very slow moving. So we never got a fourth FP.

It sounds like your touring style is a lot like ours. We are not willing to wait in lines. So, you were not able to experience as much as before. That's what I've seen in other posts. Thanks.

 

[Suvadoo]

To me it just seems like posting on a website dedicated to a movie and saying "I don't like how it looks I'm not going to go see it." Who does that serve? It helps nothing.

As I've said, if I found no value, I wouldn't post. I'd move on.
So who's wasting their time here? Me, because I find value in this thread and it's contents? Or you who finds no value in this thread, but continues to read it and post?

 

[cakebaker]

I haven't read either article because, quite frankly, none of it really matters to me. No amount of data will have any impact on the real time experience. Way too many variables to really predict what will happen at any given moment. I can say that every posted wait time we experienced was very exaggerated. Posted times of 15 minutes were literally walk on in most cases (Figment, Journey Under the Sea). In most cases, the actual wait time was dependent on how quickly you could walk from the queue entrance to the seat. This was the case for almost everything at EPCOT, and many things at MK. Star Tours routinely had a wait time of 10-15 minutes, but was 5 or less in reality.

Your experience is much like ours. We've tried it twice now, worked very well both times. For us, it's a matter of making choices that work well within the system given to us rather than fighting it at every turn. I don't look for the most time consuming, worst way to tour known to man. We do rope drop, we ride late, we park hop- We stay on site to get a jump on reserving fp's and to make use of evening EMH. It works for us.

Back when they had legacy and park hopping wasn't working well, we adapted our touring styles. It's either that, or we're very unhappy guests. We'd rather go and adjust than go and come home complaining and unhappy.

 

[Suvadoo]

Your experience is much like ours. We've tried it twice now, worked very well both times. For us, it's a matter of making choices that work well within the system given to us rather than fighting it at every turn. I don't look for the most time consuming, worst way to tour known to man. We do rope drop, we ride late, we park hop- We stay on site to get a jump on reserving fp's and to make use of evening EMH. It works for us.

Back when they had legacy and park hopping wasn't working well, we adapted our touring styles. It's either that, or we're very unhappy guests. We'd rather go and adjust than go and come home complaining and unhappy.

But you are constantly saying how much you like FP+, so really it's not like you had to make adjustments to a system that you didn't like!

I find it really easy to embrace change and adapt when I like something, it's entirely different when I don't like a particular change!

 

[Mambo Junkie]

I stay onsite because I like the convenience of it. The 60 day fp, 180+10, free parking are just perks.
I'll be going in December, and like a lot of the people here, we had perfected the art of the paper fast pass system. This will be my first experience using the new fp+ and so far I'm not happy with what I'm having to do in order to "enhance our experience". I have dining reservations and fp times so closely lined up that if anything outside of the scripted plan goes awry then something will be missed or I stand to be charged $10.00 pp for missing an ADR. I am finding it difficult to create time to go to DTD and going back to the room to chill and perhaps take a swim (weather permitting) is a pipe dream. Right now I'm trying to figure out transportation in order to get to DTD and then make it to my lunch ADR on time; this is letting the rest of my party go on to the park and heading out on my own. There are other times I may have to leave an attraction early in order to show up for my ADR on time. Yes, I have allowed plenty of time between fp events, but I'm also planning for something that may go wrong (ride go down, excessive fp wait time, etc, and heaven forbid the 20 month old should want to nap). My touring style has always been the "wing it" with walk in dining and a little bit of strategy on picking the right fp kiosk.
For instance, one year we went during the dreaded Spring Break week with 2 teenaged boys. we got to DHS at rope drop, and they went back to Star Tours while I went to the ToT kiosk, and got a 9:45 - 10:45 return time. As I walked back after getting the ticket, I ran into them getting off the ride. We walked into the Sound Studio, then went through the Animation tour, then rode ToT. When we got off the ToT, I went over to RnR for fps, return time 1:10 - 2:10. We then went over to Indiana Jones, back to the backlot tour (where the boys took part in the production) and then walked into Mama Melrose for lunch. After lunch we rode RnR and by 1:25 we were DONE. We went back to the room, chilled, swam, then around 5:00 we went back to walk into Beauty and the Beast, do Fantasmic! walk into Great Movie ride (I rode with about 20 other people) ToT, and Star Tours 1 more time. This will NEVER happen again and I miss being able to do this. edit to add: we also saw the Ace Ventura stunt show.
I am pretty much blowing out this trip (doing the 60 day midnight/27 day 2:30 am BOG fp time/180+ 6 am ADR + hard ticket Frozen/MVMCP/Tomorrowland Terrace) because this may be the last time for a very long time, depending on how smoothly all the missed sleep and stress works out, and if I can deal with being forced into a pre-planned pocket.

 

[cakebaker]

But you are constantly saying how much you like FP+, so really it's not like you had to make adjustments to a system that you didn't like!

I find it really easy to embrace change and adapt when I like something, it's entirely different when I don't like a particular change!

To the contrary- I've always said when it first came out I was kicking and screaming about it. It was only as time when on and I became comfortable with it, then used it that I began to like it.


I liked it after we tried it and made the adjustments necessary to maximize the benefits. Just like legacy, it doesn't create a trip for you. I don't know how anyone likes or dislikes anything without trying it first. Of course, if it's just the change you don't like, then it's a problem. I understand liking legacy and not wanting to lose it, but I don't see losing legacy as a reasonable reason for not liking fp+.

 

[Suvadoo]

To the contrary- I've always said when it first came out I was kicking and screaming about it. It was only as time when on and I became comfortable with it, then used it that I began to like it.


I liked it after we tried it and made the adjustments necessary to maximize the benefits. Just like legacy, it doesn't create a trip for you. I don't know how anyone likes or dislikes anything without trying it first. Of course, if it's just the change you don't like, then it's a problem. I understand liking legacy and not wanting to lose it, but I don't see losing legacy as a reasonable reason for not liking fp+.[/QUOTE

I've tried FP+ and I don't like it. I have adapted my touring style to adapt to the change, but I still do not like FP+. I do not want to be controlled by scheduling or have my access limited by Disney.

Again, you like FP+ so please don't pretend that it was your ability to adapt to change that makes the difference in you experience.

 

[wisblue]

My experiences are not an exaggeration. They're just observations from my last trip in comparison to previous trips.

Lake Travis is not mocking you. He is mocking me and ridiculing my opinions as usual.

I am used to it because his MO has been clearly established.

 

[Suvadoo]

I stay onsite because I like the convenience of it. The 60 day fp, 180+10, free parking are just perks.
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I am pretty much blowing out this trip (doing the 60 day midnight/27 day 2:30 am BOG fp time/180+ 6 am ADR + hard ticket Frozen/MVMCP/Tomorrowland Terrace) because this may be the last time for a very long time, depending on how smoothly all the missed sleep and stress works out, and if I can deal with being forced into a pre-planned pocket.

Whether or not it's your last time at WDW, I hope you have a marvelous time.

 

[Suvadoo]

Lake Travis is not mocking you. He is mocking me and ridiculing my opinions as usual.

I am used to it because his MO has been clearly established.

Just as it's your MO to call anyone's post who disagrees with yours, "hyperbole".

 

[Mambo Junkie]

To the contrary- I've always said when it first came out I was kicking and screaming about it. It was only as time when on and I became comfortable with it, then used it that I began to like it.


I liked it after we tried it and made the adjustments necessary to maximize the benefits. Just like legacy, it doesn't create a trip for you. I don't know how anyone likes or dislikes anything without trying it first. Of course, if it's just the change you don't like, then it's a problem. I understand liking legacy and not wanting to lose it, but I don't see losing legacy as a reasonable reason for not liking fp+.

It's about what touring style people are comfortable with. You like the new style, and I'm glad you do; it's just not for everyone. As I said, I have yet to experience it, and I may or may not like it but so far it is not what I consider a pleasurable vacation experience with all the advance planning one has to do. That's not how we roll.
Nothing really to debate; some won't like it and some will. What I'm hoping is that I'll get there and find out all the ADRs, fps, sleepless nights, stalking the site for cancellations on both, extra money I'm shelling out, all the stress associated with the planning was all for naught; that I could have simply showed up to park and carry on as I have done in the past. At this time, I may go next September for a test run with no advance planning and see how it goes. I know I'll be happier before arriving, that's for darn sure. (And be better rested).

 

[Laketravis]

Lake Travis is not mocking you. He is mocking me and ridiculing my opinions as usual.

I am used to it because his MO has been clearly established.

Don't be silly. You aren't the only one to mock others with the term "hyperbole".

Or are you?