AP sales…

[TiggerBouncy]

Yes and until recently included g+…. They run adult for kid price sales too… not too sure of recent pricing.

But the expiration is the problem. In 2014 and before, you could purchase no expiration tickets. They changed it to number of days + 2 (or so) sliding days. If they moved it to within a year, it might make it a more viable option for us.

 

[tjkraz]

The Sorcerer pass costs (past-tense cost if you prefer) less than two 4-day park hoppers. I'm not sure there needs to be something between them, unless you think the former is under-priced.

The Sorcerer pass is a reasonable value and if it were to return as-is, I would be content with that. But what we're hearing suggests that Disney is no longer comfortable providing 345 days of access for $900 or 365 days of access for $1200. That they wish to impose some limits on pass holders--beyond blockout dates--such that Disney is no longer turning away $120/day MYW ticket buyers in favor of a pass holder paying as little as $3 per day.

If true, I hope the new ticketing structure reflects the idea that most DVC owners don't need 300+ days of park access per year. I hope there's some middle ground between 10 day expiring MYW and 345 day AP. Say, 30 visits per year for around the $900 price of the Sorcerer pass.

 

[Prince John Robin Hood]

Just to stir the pot, what does a 14 day pass cost? Is it a hopper?

It's about $600 for an adult right now and good for an 18 day window.

 

[BillPA]

That's a good deal, a 5 day hopper ave is in the $625 range depending on date. Thanks

 

[Brian Noble]

what we're hearing suggests that Disney is no longer comfortable

Those rumblings strike me as extraordinarily speculative. Here's the post that I think most people are referring to when they talk about the "insider":

https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...-theme-park-reservations.965672/post-10272666

I don't know about you, but that sounds like someone reporting on a brain-storming process that is going to explore a lot of options but settle on something that is relatively incremental. WDW has offered an annual pass priced somewhere between two and three "trips" per year (depending on the number of days, did you get hoppers, etc.) for as long as I've been going, modulo COVID-era "pauses". While the details will probably be different, and they may try to push the upper end of that envelope with some perk-loaded pass, I don't expect them to do something particularly radical.

If I had to bet money, I would bet they'll land on something pretty similar to what the other major operators (Universal, Six Flags, and SW/Busch) have been doing for a few years with a larger menu of passes to pick from, where the upper end is more expensive but that includes some moderately meaningful perks that most people won't take full advantage of. (Ask me how many bring-a-friend-free tickets I've used on my SWO pass...). For example, a "discount ladder" (5%-10%-15% on food/merch), maybe a deeper discount on one off-season Party/After Hours event at the higher tiers, various (made-up) levels of parking, etc.

I don't think any of those options will will be priced below "two trips" for the non-FL/DVC crowd; there's no reason to do that. I do think the FL residents will have at least one option at a lower price point with more restrictions, because they are the shock-absorbers for attendance fluctuations. I'm a little less certain about DVC, but I bet they'll have access to something just shy of "two trips" as well.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

They have never stopped letting people renew

This is not true for Disneyland.

 

[Blondie58]

Is anyone else (who uses their DVC for park visits) seriously struggling to find a way forward without an AP..?

We’ve reduced length of ticket (incorporating 50% non park days), reduced to base instead of hoppers…. The cost is just prohibitive. I’m not even thinking of the discounted pass (which is useless to us as Xmas travellers)… just any AP!

I don’t understand how they market DVC anymore, but given the proclivity of most new - & many veteran - owners to choose studios (assuming to save points) and prefer multiple visits to larger accommodations…. Just why are they not allowing AP sales to DVC members?

Not having an AP makes the decision to go more often to WDW prohibitive for us. (Could be the intent of the organization.) We are looking to use points at Hilton Head this fall.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[DeeBee3]

Earlier somebody asked about the 14 day Disney World tickets being offered in the United Kingdom.
Current advertisement in the United Kingdom.
Today, 499 GBP is worth $622.62 That's $44.47 a day.
Note the dates are over the holiday season from Halloween through New Year's Eve
It includes Genie+. parkhopper, waterparks and photopass. Loaded tickets

A US standard 10 day ticket is $55 per day or $550 plus tax. , but that time period is more expensive.
Also, that is a single park without a parkhopper option, without waterparks, no photopass and no Genie+.

Disney's 14-Day Magic Ticket 2022​

For visits from 26th Oct - 31st Dec 2022
Unlimited Visits for 14 days (in a 18-day period)
Entry to all six Disney World Parks
Memory Maker included worth $199^
Ticket only valid from a selected start date during 2022
Prices from
Adults£499
Child (3 - 9 yrs)£479
Book
Full Ticket Details

Can I move to the UK just for this deal?

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Can I move to the UK just for this deal?

So many tangents to this. So many forum rules.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[DeeBee3]

You know, I was wondering what would happen if like a US Florida resident Pixie passholder contacted the vendor and bought these tickets. Internationals can buy our Incredi-passes. I did not see any resident or citizen restrictions in the ad. I am thinking Disney World would have to honor it.

So you're telling me there's a chance???

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Sandisw]

By July the Incredi, Sorcerer, Pirate and Pixie will become legacy passes. There will be something new. It may not have blockout date calendars or park reservations. Passholders in a renewal window will receive info direct from Disney.

Well, that’s an interesting tidbit.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Sandisw]

That is what appears to be info out there now. The least trustworthy tidbit is no park reservations. Chapek recently said that would continue. So I do not know. Maybe the attempt to control with two buckets will end? We wait for details.

Yes, details! I wonder what it means for the voucher I do have..which is a Sorcerer renewal one allowed to be done early?

We also have my daughters renewal Gold which wasn’t yet activated since she hasn’t made it yet.

The only plus seems some level of an AP..now price? That could be the kicker.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Sandisw]

The metals passes renewed into the character passes quite easily because they only modified the calendars slightly and added the options for free. I guess the new product will not be translatable like that. It will be too different so Disney will offer options for passholders with expiring passes. We know there will be more than one option. But we do not even know if they will be annual in length.

We do a lot of short trips vs. long ones, so I just want a reasonable option that allows me to continue to do that...if not, then I will just have to adjust the budget to figure it out!!! Even a pass that has multiple days but good for months at a time would work so it can be used over multiple trips....