Anyone watching the SATC reboot? Major spoiler inside...

[Colleen27]

And another thing... Lol I can't help myself. That stupid conversation at the seafood restaurant with the Carrie and Miranda freaking out about Charlotte and Harry and doing the thing. She's married, not dead! And that's all I'm going to say about that.

I couldn't help thinking that maybe if the idea of married intimacy wasn't so shocking to Miranda, she wouldn't be looking outside her marriage for fulfillment/satisfaction. Charlotte is many things that make her my least favorite main character, but she's always been the one who is best at relationships. She puts the effort in to keep things in a good place.

I felt for Steve. He was never enough in Mirandas eyes. I think she convinced herself to marry him because she was pregnant with Brady and once she decided to have the baby her fate was sealed and now she is facing the consequences . I think she wishes she had a "do-over". She never wanted the life Steve offered, simple life, work hard, have a child, live in the suburbs, come home and watch tv etc. That was never what she wanted IMO. Miranda always wanted to work, make partner at her firm and prove herself and live in the city. I don't think she really wanted motherhood or the suburban life. It broke my heart when Steve was shocked and said he was happy with their life.

I think I'm in a minority here because this was the first episode where I saw where Miranda was coming from. Steve's whole reaction was sad, but also very reflective of how broken their marriage really is - he doesn't see a problem, so he's not going to meet her halfway to fix it, and being married to someone who acts like life is over at 55 would be very frustrating. I couldn't understand her cheating with Che, but I can understand her not wanting to sit on that couch, eating dessert and watching TV and talking about Brady (awkwardly, at that, because Steve doesn't even want to make the effort of wearing his hearing aids to make conversation easier), for the rest of her life. And his attitude of "that's marriage", "we are old", all of that makes it sound like he sees the problem as her expectations rather than his acting like a geezer, which doesn't exactly suggest he's open to trying to change their dynamic to work better for her. Even his whole sad speech about her not seeing him as enough makes it clear that he sees it as all or nothing - either the zero-effort status quo is enough or he isn't enough, because that's all he is and all he's interested in being.

Her chasing Che is immature and is going to blow up in her face, but I feel like last night's episode was the first time we got to see exactly how lonely things had gotten for her at home to send her out chasing that connection in the first place. I wouldn't want to be 55 and married to a guy who feels like work, watching TV and talking about the kids are all there is to life either.

 

[anniemae]

I think I'm in a minority here because this was the first episode where I saw where Miranda was coming from. Steve's whole reaction was sad, but also very reflective of how broken their marriage really is - he doesn't see a problem, so he's not going to meet her halfway to fix it, and being married to someone who acts like life is over at 55 would be very frustrating. I couldn't understand her cheating with Che, but I can understand her not wanting to sit on that couch, eating dessert and watching TV and talking about Brady (awkwardly, at that, because Steve doesn't even want to make the effort of wearing his hearing aids to make conversation easier), for the rest of her life. And his attitude of "that's marriage", "we are old", all of that makes it sound like he sees the problem as her expectations rather than his acting like a geezer, which doesn't exactly suggest he's open to trying to change their dynamic to work better for her. Even his whole sad speech about her not seeing him as enough makes it clear that he sees it as all or nothing - either the zero-effort status quo is enough or he isn't enough, because that's all he is and all he's interested in being.

Her chasing Che is immature and is going to blow up in her face, but I feel like last night's episode was the first time we got to see exactly how lonely things had gotten for her at home to send her out chasing that connection in the first place. I wouldn't want to be 55 and married to a guy who feels like work, watching TV and talking about the kids are all there is to life either.

I get that point. Miranda wants more, she has always wanted more. No, she does not want to sit around watching tv. I guess I feel that Miranda should have known this is how her life would go because that is Steve. That is what she married. Steve has never been a "go-getter" he was always a simple guy with simple needs (watching sports with a beer etc.) He never seemed interested in making a big impact on the world like Miranda. I don't know what she expected, he ended up pretty much like I would expect a guy like him to end up. He was always less successful, less intelligent (education wise), less wealthy than Miranda. I don't blame Miranda for feeling unfulfilled and bored, I blame her for not breaking things off when it was so clear they had different ideas of what life should be. Of course she is bored with their life and him but she agreed to marry him knowing full well how he was. And I agree he is acting too much like an old man, I hate that he is portrayed like that because things would probably work for them if he wasn't acting like that, but it is probably exactly why they wrote him like that. They needed to make him unappealing to Miranda.

 

[AustinTink]

I couldn't help thinking that maybe if the idea of married intimacy wasn't so shocking to Miranda, she wouldn't be looking outside her marriage for fulfillment/satisfaction. Charlotte is many things that make her my least favorite main character, but she's always been the one who is best at relationships. She puts the effort in to keep things in a good place.

Absolutely. And even during her sorry attempt to "revive Steve from him coma" she did literally nothing for Steve. It was do this, do that to me, me, me.

 

[chattadisser]

Absolutely. And even during her sorry attempt to "revive Steve from him coma" she did literally nothing for Steve. It was do this, do that to me, me, me.

This is what bothered me about her feeble attempt at "reviving" him. Again, it was all about her, nothing for him. Plus there was no build up - where's the fun in that?

 

[AustinTink]

Even his whole sad speech about her not seeing him as enough makes it clear that he sees it as all or nothing - either the zero-effort status quo is enough or he isn't enough, because that's all he is and all he's interested in being.

I don't know, I saw this more like when you beat someone down for 20-odd years with your negative opinion of them, why on earth would they go out of their way to please you. She made him feel inadequate daily, just look at how she spoke to him on the phone at the farmer's market.

 

[AustinTink]

This is what bothered me about her feeble attempt at "reviving" him. Again, it was all about her, nothing for him. Plus there was no build up - where's the fun in that?

And then she wonders why he doesn't want to be with her intimately. Like simply being in her presence should be enough to start his engines.

 

[DLgal]

Yesterday's episode was SO ANNOYING. On so many levels.

But the most annoying part was the absolute INCREDULITY with which Carrie and Miranda reacted when Charlotte told her story.

I wanted to jump through the screen and yell at them, "YES, ladies, women who are happily married STILL do that."

I think I officially can't stand this show.

 

[neverlandsky]

Agree with Charlotte's story. More emphasis was placed on what Charlotte was doing vs. boundaries of Lily walking their bedroom unannounced, then through the closet, & into the bathroom. Roaming Teens plus them keeping Vampire hours in the household + couple intimacy isn't easy. Not like when they were younger and you just pop in a movie for distraction, or it's naptime, or earlier bedtimes.

This episode made me really miss Samantha! With Samantha, Samantha's reply to Charlotte telling her story: "Good for you, honey. Shut & lock the door next time." Then Samantha would proceed to scold Carrie & Miranda. Carrie's reply to Samantha, "Well, I walked in on you." Samantha's reply, "Well I walked in on Stanford" and they all would laugh.

 

[Sinder]

I have been following this thread because I'm a huge fan of the original but I'm waiting till all the episodes air so I can binge watch this one.
From what you all say I'm not sure I want too, yet I am so intrigued by how bad it seems that I have too

 

[AustinTink]

This episode made me really miss Samantha! With Samantha, Samantha's reply to Charlotte telling her story: "Good for you, honey. Shut & lock the door next time." Then Samantha would proceed to scold Carrie & Miranda. Carrie's reply to Samantha, "Well, I walked in on you." Samantha's reply, "Well I walked in on Stanford" and they all would laugh.

Spot on!

 

[DLgal]

"Good for you, honey. Shut & lock the door next time."

This is all that scene needed. Literally the only appropriate response.

You lock the door before you "get going." That's it. End of.

 

[ScottOKW2K]

Never saw SATC, had to look up what it was. Won't see reboot either.

 

[mjkacmom]

Never saw SATC, had to look up what it was. Won't see reboot either.

Thank you for your contribution to this thread.

 

[Toolulu22]

I have been following this thread because I'm a huge fan of the original but I'm waiting till all the episodes air so I can binge watch this one.
From what you all say I'm not sure I want too, yet I am so intrigued by how bad it seems that I have too

Me too- waiting until maybe summer and all reviews are out. I might watch the original series again first (or after). It’s the one series that I still have on DVD, plus the movies.

 

[Suger Mag]

i think what puzzled me was when did Charlotte ever do that... never mind to Harry after x years, but at all...... I seem to remember an early episode in the series where she ended a relationship because she hated it... couldn't do it... tried on popsicles blah blah and that she simply refused... Did I miss something about her relationship with Harry that she got over that?

 

[ScottOKW2K]

Thank you for your contribution to this thread.

You are most welcome ! Have a magical day !

 

[AustinTink]

Did I miss something about her relationship with Harry that she got over that?

Yes, Harry changed everything about how she looked at the physical stuff in a relationship. He was the perfect match for her in so many ways.

 

[bcwife76]

Lily is 15...really? She REALLY bought the whole 'looking for Cancer on daddy' story? Also next time Charlotte, LOCK the door!

And this is me being quite catty: maybe if Miranda had done to Steve was Charlotte was about to do to Harry her marriage might not be lacking so much intimacy.

 

[Eeyore daily]

And this is me being quite catty: maybe if Miranda had done to Steve was Charlotte was about to do to Harry her marriage might not be lacking so much intimacy.

Does it really matter when Miranda is clearly selfish and only wants what makes her feel good?

 

[bcwife76]

Does it really matter when Miranda is clearly selfish and only wants what makes her feel good?

No at the end of the day it doesn't. Because Miranda always looks out for #1. And that clearly will never change. Ugh.