Anyone see the picture of Brittney Spears...

[va32h]

Again, I don't know why I feel the need to defend Britney because I don't really like her......but it drives me nuts at how quick people are to judge and condemn others. Apparently most of the posters on the DIS are saints and know exactly what every situation involves and knows exactly how they would react.......

You don't have to be a saint to know that it is stupid and irresponsible to drive around with a baby on your lap. Whatever danger the paparazzi may have posed, it is nothing compared to the certain death the baby would have faced if Britney had gotten into an accident.

 

[MICKEY88]

Actually, there have been a long list of celebs recently being chased/attacked in their cars....Scarlett Johansson (Disneyland parking lot), Lindsey Lohan, Paris Hilton etc......

Also, did it ever occur to anyone that the body guard may not be allowed to actually touch/handle the baby. I know their contracts are usually very specific about what they can and cannot do.

Again, I don't know why I feel the need to defend Britney because I don't really like her......but it drives me nuts at how quick people are to judge and condemn others. Apparently most of the posters on the DIS are saints and know exactly what every situation involves and knows exactly how they would react.......

no one has been attacked, they have been followed..

Paris Hilton drove into a car while drunk, hardly the paparazzi's fault..

paparazzi has existed for years, they haven't really changed, the celebrities have, notice that older celebrities aren't having the accidents, it's the young celebrities, who over react or try to drive away at high speed, with bad driving skills..just drive normally, wave nonchalantly and it takes all the value out of the pics..

odds are the bodyguard can touch the child in a dangerous situation,

but that really doesn't matter if he's any good he would deal with the photographers....

as far as condemning or judging her, I will not condemn her, just her actions...just as my children are good , they sometimes do bad things,I think it's terribly wrong to call her a bad person or white trash as has been done, she is someones daughter, someone's mother she is just human like the rest of us and will make mistakes,,, this was a really stupid one...

 

[MICKEY88]

Not debating her mommy skills....but since there is photographic evidence should she be given a ticket for what she did. I know she can pay it 1000 times over but I do think she should get a ticket and it hopefully will be highly publicized so that it might make an impression on those who are not as rich.

I don't think a citation can be issued unless the photo was taken by a police or traffic camera..

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

what danger, to the best of my knowledge there has yet to be an incident, of paparazzi, attacking anyone in a vehicle..

Princess Diana---


And there was an actress--I forget who..who drove into the DL parking lot and got into a minor accident.

The danger of paparazzi isn't their intent to harm you--it is that their aggressive actions can result in harm. They have the right to take a picture. Being a celebrity doesn't give them license to be aggressive with you and impose danger in their efforts to get the $$$$ shot.


I got rear ended by a hit and run driver while driving 45mph (speed limit) off of a bridge. While the idiot probably didn't "intend" to harm me--he sure as heck did. (Though by his agressive actions--I think he was intending to get me out of his way).

 

[MICKEY88]

Princess Diana---


And there was an actress--I forget who..who drove into the DL parking lot and got into a minor accident.

The danger of paparazzi isn't their intent to harm you--it is that their aggressive actions can result in harm. They have the right to take a picture. Being a celebrity doesn't give them license to be aggressive with you and impose danger in their efforts to get the $$$$ shot.


I got rear ended by a hit and run driver while driving 45mph (speed limit) off of a bridge. While the idiot probably didn't "intend" to harm me--he sure as heck did. (Though by his agressive actions--I think he was intending to get me out of his way).

Princess Diana, would be alive today if the limo driver had not been DUI and speeding, again if the car drove normally, nothing happens, other than paparrazzi follows hoping to get a picture when she gets out of the limo..

and with the actress again it was trying to drive away at high speed, the paparazzi has not forced their way into a car, nor run a car off of the road to get pictures, all that would get them is jailtime..

he was more likely just speeeding and not paying attention, there are a lot of bad drivers out there, but, who has heard of anyone dumb enough to intentionally hit a car and damage their own...maybe one or two road rage cases, but that's it..

 

[va32h]

Princess Diana was riding, without a seatbelt, in the backset of a car driven by a drunk driver. Personally, I think these two things had more to do with her death than the presence of the paparazzi.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

he was more likely just speeeding and not paying attention, there are a lot of bad drivers out there, but, who has heard of anyone dumb enough to intentionally hit a car and damage their own...maybe one or two road rage cases, but that's it..

Well--he passed my witnesses using the bicycle lane on the bridge--got in front of them..then switched to the left lane...then veered left before slamming into my car.

It was intentional. It was dangerous. And he knew it and that is why he fled.

The damage to my car was quite a bit considering both vehicles were moving in the same direction.

So glad I had witnesses. Since this is so unbelievable.

 

[hentob]

Princess Diana was riding, without a seatbelt, in the backset of a car driven by a drunk driver. Personally, I think these two things had more to do with her death than the presence of the paparazzi.

 

[MICKEY88]

Well--he passed my witnesses using the bicycle lane on the bridge--got in front of them..then switched to the left lane...then veered left before slamming into my car.

It was intentional. It was dangerous. And he knew it and that is why he fled.

The damage to my car was quite a bit considering both vehicles were moving in the same direction.

So glad I had witnesses. Since this is so unbelievable.

sounds like a speeding bad driver, he may have not seen you if he was driving that erradically, he also may have been drunk or high, another reason to not stop, there is no way to deduct that it was intentional.., definitely dangerous, and idiots like that rarely stick around to be arrested

 

[ladyv]

no one has been attacked, they have been followed..

Actually.....

From abcnews.com

"ANAHEIM, Calif. Oct 9, 2005 (AP)— A photographer was charged with child endangerment and battery for allegedly striking a 5-year-old child with his camera and shoving another out of the way to take pictures of Reese Witherspoon and her children.

Todd K. Wallace, 44, was charged Friday and was due back in court Wednesday, Assistant City Attorney Patrick Ahle said.

The photographer also is charged with battering the 5-year-old's mother, who is a friend of Witherspoon, and two employees at a Disney theme park, said Anaheim Police Sgt. Rick Martinez.

Wallace became angry when the "Legally Blonde" star and her friends declined to be photographed Sept. 2 at Disney's California Adventure and cursed them, Martinez said. Wallace was initially cited for misdemeanor assault and battery of the two employees.

The incident left some of the children in tears.

Tabloids must realize that "battering and endangering a child to get a picture for their magazines is criminal and not business as usual," said Witherspoon's attorney, Blair Berk.

Wallace has an unlisted phone number and could not be reached for comment Saturday. He served more than four years in prison after a 1993 conviction of second-degree burglary and receiving goods by fraud, according to state corrections records.

In August, prosecutors decided not to charge photographers whom Witherspoon said chased her from her gym and trapped her outside the West Los Angeles gated community where she lives with her husband, actor Ryan Phillippe, and their two children."

 

[Brianne]

How's this for odd? I ran out at lunch to run a couple errands after reading this thread, and spotted a woman in the passenger seat holding a baby (looked to be about 4-5 months old) on her lap. I'm still kicking myself for not having my cellphone with me--I can only hope someone else noticed them & called 911 on her. That poor baby.

 

[Beth76]

How's this for odd? I ran out at lunch to run a couple errands after reading this thread, and spotted a woman in the passenger seat holding a baby (looked to be about 4-5 months old) on her lap. I'm still kicking myself for not having my cellphone with me--I can only hope someone else noticed them & called 911 on her. That poor baby.

Can we call 911 for that? A few weeks ago, I was in a McD's parking lot and in the drive thru, someone was holding a small child in her lap (pass side). I wasn't sure if I could call or not. I couldn't see the license plate without getting stepping in front of their car and I wasn't sure of my exact location since we were traveling.

 

[MICKEY88]

Actually.....

From abcnews.com

"ANAHEIM, Calif. Oct 9, 2005 (AP)— A photographer was charged with child endangerment and battery for allegedly striking a 5-year-old child with his camera and shoving another out of the way to take pictures of Reese Witherspoon and her children.

Todd K. Wallace, 44, was charged Friday and was due back in court Wednesday, Assistant City Attorney Patrick Ahle said.

The photographer also is charged with battering the 5-year-old's mother, who is a friend of Witherspoon, and two employees at a Disney theme park, said Anaheim Police Sgt. Rick Martinez.

Wallace became angry when the "Legally Blonde" star and her friends declined to be photographed Sept. 2 at Disney's California Adventure and cursed them, Martinez said. Wallace was initially cited for misdemeanor assault and battery of the two employees.

The incident left some of the children in tears.

Tabloids must realize that "battering and endangering a child to get a picture for their magazines is criminal and not business as usual," said Witherspoon's attorney, Blair Berk.

Wallace has an unlisted phone number and could not be reached for comment Saturday. He served more than four years in prison after a 1993 conviction of second-degree burglary and receiving goods by fraud, according to state corrections records.

In August, prosecutors decided not to charge photographers whom Witherspoon said chased her from her gym and trapped her outside the West Los Angeles gated community where she lives with her husband, actor Ryan Phillippe, and their two children."

that's one case, and my original post was refering to attacking a car, if people stay in their car and drive sensibly their is NO DANGER...

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Can we call 911 for that? A few weeks ago, I was in a McD's parking lot and in the drive thru, someone was holding a small child in her lap (pass side). I wasn't sure if I could call or not. I couldn't see the license plate without getting stepping in front of their car and I wasn't sure of my exact location since we were traveling.

In some places you can. Where I live, I have called 911 for a much less offense than a lapriding baby--but still dangerous nonetheless.

I had time--so I actually followed the driver and stayed on with 911 until the cops passed me and caught up with the van. (Had to tell 911 that I wasn't calling in about me and the cops needed to pass me to get up to the vehicle I was calling about.)


I did post a thread on this a while back and some have posted that in their area--911 will not do anything.

But more oftne than not--license plate, vehicle description and a good locaiton of the vehicle, they will pursue it.

Truthfully--the only reason I called was b/c the guy stopped for gas and it was in a very busy school zone-it allowed enough time for the police to find him.

The more information you have to allow for a successful stop, the better. The planets were all alligned for the children I called about that day.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

sounds like a speeding bad driver, he may have not seen you if he was driving that erradically, he also may have been drunk or high, another reason to not stop, there is no way to deduct that it was intentional.., definitely dangerous, and idiots like that rarely stick around to be arrested

He caught up to me in record time. Slowed down enough to not hit me.

He braked to wait for me to get out of his way. (car backed away from my bumper) I could not due to traffic. And then pressed the accelerator to deliberately hit my vehicle.


Nice of you to defend criminal behavior though.

While he was never captured--his vehicle was. We did find out his girlfriend had a restraining order against him as well.

 

[Brianne]

There is an 800 number to report such incidents, but I can't remember what it is--hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about? Otherwise, I don't see how anyone could fault a person for calling 911 for it. I have to wonder if it would've done much good in this case though because it was a brand new vehicle with a temp. license plate. Does the DMV have the ability to trace a car back to temp plates? I'm still mad thinking about it though.

 

[MICKEY88]

He caught up to me in record time. Slowed down enough to not hit me.

He braked to wait for me to get out of his way. (car backed away from my bumper) I could not due to traffic. And then pressed the accelerator to deliberately hit my vehicle.


Nice of you to defend criminal behavior though.

While he was never captured--his vehicle was. We did find out his girlfriend had a restraining order against him as well.

where in this post did I defend criminal behaviour I did every thing but defend him..{sounds like a speeding bad driver, he may have not seen you if he was driving that erradically, he also may have been drunk or high, another reason to not stop, there is no way to deduct that it was intentional.., definitely dangerous, and idiots like that rarely stick around to be arrested}

I was in no way defending criminal behaviour, with the info you gave before no lawyer, nor judge would conclude it was intentional. I did state that his behaviour was dangerous..

why was he chasing you..?? did he hit you square in the back end or hit the corner of your car ??

 

[vettechick99]

Yup, I'm not buying the fight or flight excuse. They are taking her picture (and have been daily for the last 6 years), it's nothing new. Additionally, am I the only one that wonders why she doesn't have tinted windows? Can't get a picture if the windows are tinted.

The fact that hers are clear and wide open speaks volumes to me.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Not sure--but the vehicle that hit me...DMV wasn't updated for the quick check. It showed the truck still registered. A more detailed investigation revealed the vehicle had been sold and the tags were invalid and the vehicle was not insured.

Worth a shot though--the tags won't matter--the cops won't go to the house or anything. It just helps to ID the vehicle to make sure they have the right one in a situation like that. They just need to know where they are and where they are going.

I only saw the van I mentioned to a successful pullover by police b/c I had a few minutes and was able to safely follow. It helped that he had stopped for gas and had to drive through a very congested school zone. As soon as he turned onto a different road and realized I was following--he did speed up..but then was stopped by traffic lights.

I don't suggest doing this--but I did have 911 on the phone...they didn't tell me to cease what I was doing and I was far enough behind. Had the car sped away, I would not have compromised my safety to continue following.


And FTR--I disagree about raking Brit over the coals for it.

And absolutely I would have called 911 to report her. I am just a tattle tale that way and don't want to see a baby die if reporting it would have been the one thing that saved their life.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

why was he chasing you..?? did he hit you square in the back end or hit the corner of your car ??

We were crossing a bridge--I was at the base of the bridge--I looked in my rear view mirror and he was barreling down the bridge in my lane--I had nowhere to go..he caught up...and then slammed into me.

You made the comment that people don't arbirtrarily slam there cars into people and I disagree.

He had nowhere to go and opted to push me out of his way to make room.

I pullled over to the left---and he swerved left then right and accelerated on past.

It would have been square in the back--though we believe he may have been intoxicated and just picked the wrong part of his double vision to pass. It was a pretty square on the back hit--but slightly off center.

I thought I had a picture of it--but cannot find it. But the door on the back of my van had to be replaced and the bumper had been punctured and had to be replaced.


I only shared b/c you claimed that noone would do something like that. When in fact they do everyday.