Anyone ever take kids out of school

[DCLMan]

We have taken both our kids out of school until my son started Year 10. When he started his GCSE's we decided that we would go in August and the price hikes are very noticeable. I feel the teachers pain as they have no choice but to pay the over-inflated prices.

 

[dixonsontour]

Nice to read a sensible discussion about this

I know on the dibb all threads like this are immediately locked as they are a 'hot topic'.

 

[wayneg]

Nice to read a sensible discussion about this

I know on the dibb all threads like this are immediately locked as they are a 'hot topic'.

I am surprised some of the teachers haven't given their side of taking kids out, as a parent I believe we contributed to Matt's education but I am sure some teachers must get frustrated by our actions.

I really can't understand the Dibb not allowing discussions on this subject as well as other subjects including tipping, if it gets too heated remove the posts or close the thread.

 

[2Tiggies]

I am surprised some of the teachers haven't given their side of taking kids out, as a parent I believe we contributed to Matt's education but I am sure some teachers must get frustrated by our actions.

I really can't understand the Dibb not allowing discussions on this subject as well as other subjects including tipping, if it gets too heated remove the posts or close the thread.

I have wondered from time to time, but I think a lot of it is down to the dynamics of the UKTP DISers. This, as well as tipping threads do come up on here from time to time and I am not sure if it is down to the smaller group, but it rarely gets anywhere near to heated. It is one of the really great aspects of the UK section - you are allowed to express your differing opinions and as opposed to being seen as confrontational, it is accepted as refreshing

I hear you on the frustration of teachers. Some of it is general school policy, some of it is really open minded teachers (and we have had brilliant ones all the way through, regardless of the schools official stand on the matter). However I also think that how you approach it plays a part. If you go in honestly and openly to the teacher as well, most of them don't have a problem with it. I always make it clear that although I am perfectly willing to take and supervise additional work, I don't expect them to put themselves out because we have chosen to take a term time holiday. We have quite a few teachers on the UK forum and as far as I recall, they have only pointed out potential pitfalls and less than ideal consequences - but not slammed the idea per se. What can I say? We are a great bunch on here

 

[crabbie1]

Well i saw this thread and thought heyup i bet there are a few disputes on here but glad to see not. I hv taken dd out of school the last 3 years. She makes a diary for her tutor . She enjoys doing it and she had a certificate last year in praise assembly. This year she wasnt well 2 days before we went so she was off sick which probably didnt look good. I sent her in the day after we got back and she fell asleep in maths and vomited because she was so tired.
Hv to go august next year which im not too pleased about as the humidity is awful for me anyway but DB ex wnt let his 4 year old daughter out of school though it was ok for her to take her to hong kong for 3 weeks in octoberAlthough we own dvc and hv our tickets etc the flights are over 3000 for the 4 of us. Double what i paid going november. Even coming bk after the 4 th sept would save us money but she wnt hv it. So we hv booked 17 th till 1st sept. Early starts but will hv breaks and go back later. Sorry for goin off track. Dd school allow 10 days but sent a letter out saying attendance had to be 90% and above the rest of the year unless the child had a known medical condition which charlotte has but still had a 98% attendence.
You hv to do what u think is best and check tht ur local authority allow it as I hv read some dont.

 

[disneyholic family]

What can I say? We are a great bunch on here

indeed!!!!!!

 

[jen_uk]

I am surprised some of the teachers haven't given their side of taking kids out, as a parent I believe we contributed to Matt's education but I am sure some teachers must get frustrated by our actions.

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I posted from a teachers viewpoint!

 

[2Tiggies]

I posted from a teachers viewpoint!

I saw your post yesterday and wondered if you would come back See, you were so easy going and open minded that nobody noticed the teacher part

 

[Elise79]

We willbe taking DD out of school for 5 days after next October half term. The problem I have is that I am only applying for schools now and won't know till May which school she will be allocated - which will be too late to book if I then get permission.

On the other hand she is a June baby so legally doesn't need to be at school till the following September so I am not sure there is much they can say.

At nursery they told us at her last parents evenings she is on track or above all targets for her age - so I don't think a week off is going to be the end of the world

 

[joolz1910]

I am surprised some of the teachers haven't given their side of taking kids out, as a parent I believe we contributed to Matt's education but I am sure some teachers must get frustrated by our actions.

I'm a teacher...and you know what my opinion is.
See post #10.

 

[Dead-metal]

I will be taking mine out for 8 days next year, they will be 4, 8 and 12.

I'm a teacher...and you know what my opinion is.
See post #10.

So you are a teacher?

So not only are you affecting your children's education but everyone else's children in your class.

You must be so proud.

 

[wayneg]

So you are a teacher?

So not only are you affecting your children's education but everyone else's children in your class.

You must be so proud.

IMO she should be very proud giving her children a better education than purely classroom based. I know my Son would not stand a chance of 3 A* A levels if we had not taken him on holidays we have, maybe he won't achieve them but he is in with a good shout.

You are welcome to your opinion but please remember the guidelines, Argumentative sarcastic posts or personal attacks will receive an infraction. http://www.wdwinfo.com/guidelines.htm

 

[Dead-metal]

IMO she should be very proud giving her children a better education than purely classroom based. I know my Son would not stand a chance of 3 A* A levels if we had not taken him on holidays we have, maybe he won't achieve them but he is in with a good shout.

You are welcome to your opinion but please remember the guidelines, Argumentative sarcastic posts or personal attacks will receive an infraction. http://www.wdwinfo.com/guidelines.htm

The old holidays benefit education chestnut.

The argument of parents who do take their children out of school. What's the difference between holidays and truancy? None.

joolz1910 is a teacher, earning a nice salary, an even better publicly funded pension and long holidays and yet still feels the need to take her children out of school for a cheap holiday. I'm sure she will be striking on Wednesday thus further disturbing children's education in the pursuit of money.

 

[flortlebap]

Theres always one that has to cause trouble, isn't there?

 

[mickeyforpresident]

How about a Headteacher's viewpoint? It is the Governors who set the holiday policy not the teachers. In my school they give me permission to authorise 10 days a year depending on the overall attendance of the child (usually ok if attendance is above 95%), def no if below 85%. However, if a holiday is really beneficial then I'll authorise it anyway! In my authority we now have to issue letters to parents so they can prove they have permission, otherwise (still to be tested, and I can never see it happening) the authorities may return a child to school.

The fine thing has been misunderstood. It's a fixed penalty notice, similar to a parking ticket. It's purpose is to get the parents to return their child to school. It isn't a punishment as such, so in the case of a family holiday taken by good parents isn't going to end up with a fine (it's too time consuming). The FPN is there for children who are persistently absent.

Wayne had it spot on at the beginning of the thread; there are lots of factors involved and it is an individual thing. Whether it affects the child is also individual; some cope fine others really struggle with missed learning.

At the end of the day, nothing can beat good quality family time (in Disney!)

 

[mickeyforpresident]

The old holidays benefit education chestnut.

The argument of parents who do take their children out of school. What's the difference between holidays and truancy? None.

joolz1910 is a teacher, earning a nice salary, an even better publicly funded pension and long holidays and yet still feels the need to take her children out of school for a cheap holiday. I'm sure she will be striking on Wednesday thus further disturbing children's education in the pursuit of money.

A well travelled person is a well rounded person - fact! You can read about something so you'll know, experience it and you really understand! Chestnuts are lovely you know!

Truancy is when a child doesn't have permission to be in school.

Ask yourself if you want a near 70 year old teaching a bunch of 4 year olds? Would you continue in your job without fuss if you suddenly had to pay £200 extra a month (actually could you afford to lose that much a month) and then when you eventually retire what you were expecting has been reduced by tens of thousands of pounds? It's grossly unfair; the pension scheme is now only seen as unaffordable because the fund was used to pay the deficit!

 

[mickeyforpresident]

Sorry - I've woken up in a really crabby mood.

In pursuit of money !!!!! That's really offensive!! In pursuit of fairness!!!!!

Did you complain about the day off for the royal wedding? Not many people complained then about losing a day of education! No - because most of us got a day off too.

I think you should think about how a hard a decision it is to decide to strike!

Ok - rant over. Sorry Wayne!

 

[flortlebap]

Sorry - I've woken up in a really crabby mood.

In pursuit of money !!!!! That's really offensive!! In pursuit of fairness!!!!!

Did you complain about the day off for the royal wedding? Not many people complained then about losing a day of education! No - because most of us got a day off too.

I think you should think about how a hard a decision it is to decide to strike!

Ok - rant over. Sorry Wayne!

I wouldn't worry too much. Looking at their posting history, they only seem to crawl out of the woodwork when there's a trolling opportunity!

 

[dixonsontour]

Seems like I spoke too soon

Elise - my friend had this - school marking a day off for a wedding (child was a paige boy) as unauthorised yet he was still only 4 and not legal school age.

Friend didn't bother arguing the toss as his attendance was perfect other than that.

It is hard when they start school and you don't know how the land lies so to speak. Yes you can read the official policy but alot seems to vary school by school.

I do school drop off /pick up each day and so am aware of which kids are off on hols etc (only 16 in DD's class) From chatting to mums school seems relaxed and I know they authorised a week tagged onto a halfterm.

 

[2Tiggies]

So you are a teacher?

So not only are you affecting your children's education but everyone else's children in your class.

You must be so proud.

I am assuming that one of your children is in Joolz's class and this therefore directly affects you. Perhaps you should have taken it up directly with her in that case and not on a public message board.

I also think it is rather presumptuous to assume that as a teacher, she has her children in the same school and that their holidays coincide. Just saying.

Wayne, I agree 100% with you - the exposure the children have to life outside the classroom and local community gives them something that cannot be replicated in a classroom. I have borrowed those words from my child's head teacher and class teachers - this is exactly what they feel about it. There is no question about it: aside from Matt's very obvious natural talent for writing, he has gained a much broader perspective from the life experiences he has been blessed to enjoy. Some of those are inside the classroom and home environment and some much further afield.