Anyone else less than thrilled by SSR?

KellyDVC

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We just came back from a quick visit to WDW and decided to go look at the finished SSR. I have a mixed reaction.

First, some background on my perspective: We have been DVC members since 1999 and already own at OKW and Boardwalk, and love them both. Have also stayed at BCV and visited VWL many times, and like them very much, too. We bought points at SSR, in order to take advantage of the 50yr window, plus the good rate Disney was offering to DVC members. We will be staying there for a couple of days at the end of June.

My first impression was that we were visiting a moderate resort, not a Luxury resort. Nice theming, but sparse. The entryway and lobby were very plainly decorated - no comparison to the other DVC resorts at WDW. All the public spaces seemed very "moderate" - nothing wrong with that at all, but not what you expect at DVC prices. I was somewhat turned off by the idea of a food court only for dining, but I understand and agree with the reasoning behind it. It looks great, but it looks like it belongs at a moderate resort. The public spaces at Port Orleans seem more elaborate than this.

The walkways to the rooms were partly enclosed but had these awful looking painted concrete floors. I know, OKW has concrete walkways too, but they are completely exterior, so it seems to make sense, and fits it with the architectural style. These floors seemed jarring to me - just think of the great patterned carpet in the corridors at Boardwalk, even the new ones, which are not as nice as the old ones were. These floors had a painted border to look like a carpet outline, but it doesn' work.

By contrast, the rooms themselves are beautiful, and very nicely furnished - totally up to the usual DVC standard. In fact, my husband commented that the interiors seemed to have higher quality furnishings than usual. It just makes me regret that the outside doesn't reach that standard at all.

Please share your impressions - I am curious if I am the only one who feels this way.
 
Certainly every resort will not appeal to everyone, and that is as it should be.

I don't think however it is fair to compare SSR to BCV and VWL or even BW as these are not DVC stand alone resorts. Their decor was determined by the other areas in which they would be a part of. Even though BW was built as a DVC resort it's design was a part of a whole theme including the entertainment/retail areas.

BCV and VWL had no choice, but to follow the theme already in place.

As to the common areas based on everything I have read it is in keeping with it's theme. This would be to say AKL is dark and therefore unappealing. Yes it's dark, but not because it's lacking, but due to the theme of the resort.

I do feel it will be hard to get a complete finished feel for SSR until it is finished.

I am not sure the standard for the outside and common areas does not reach the standard set by the interiors. I feel it's simply a situation of a particular look due to theme.

I know the landscaping is way beyond any other DVC resort. I don't think this implies the others are below standard just different due to theme.
 
I haven't seen it in person so I can't make a judgement. I would suggest that it might look better once it is finished. Maybe there are "finishing touches" that haven't been done yet?
 
I have to say that I agree with you. Granted, this resort is in the very early stages so I will reserve my final judgement until it is finally finished. However, to me, the theming is not that strong.
Also, the amenities do not appear adequate for the number of units. It just had a big, boxy, massive feel to me. I almost felt like I was offsite!! But, like I said, once it is completed, it may have a completely different atmosphere to it! It obviously appeals to many because it sure is selling!!
 

I think that one of the attributes that distinguishes a "luxury hotel" from a "moderate hotel" is the interior walkways of the luxury hotels... vs the "motel like" exterior entrances of the moderates. While not 100% universal... it seems that most of the nicer properties follow this guideline.

After staying in many (non-DVC) condos... I believe that I like the exterior entrances better for condos (but not for hotels). I can think of 3 major reasons for this:

1) The biggest reason is the accumulation of cooking smells in the interior hallways... especially if people cook "strong" foods. I have noticed this inside of DVC units, and I find it quite unappealing. The exterior entrances significantly prevent this problem because the exterior walkways do not accumulate odors. Even in hotels... there is some evidence of this when room service items are left in the hallways... but cooking odors are much worse.

2) A second reason that I prefer an exterior walkway for condos is because it allows easier building placement for excellent views from a majority of units. Normally in a hotel situation... there are preferred views, and parking lot (or other less desirable) views.

3) A third reason that I like this type of configuration is because it generally allows easier parking close to the unit... which I find convenient.

I do think that the exterior walkways somehow reduce that "luxurious" atmosphere that the OP discusses... and I think it is a valid point. It is just that overall... I am willing to accept that slightly negative aspect in favor of the benefits that I think are significant. I think that the designers of SSR did a nice job making the units feel luxurious... but I do understand how some like the OP might feel otherwise.

Finally... I think that the ongoing construction on-site reduces the luxurious feeling of the resort at this time. As the construction finishes, and vegetation matures, I am expecting this to dramatically change.

/Jim
 
Originally posted by PamOKW
I would suggest that it might look better once it is finished. Maybe there are "finishing touches" that haven't been done yet?

I'd agree with that completely. When we went over during MH week, I thought it was rather plain. I was probably grumpy due to the extreme heat and what appeared to be lack of lots of foliage. However, I'll bet not everything has completely grown in, so I made ressies to stay there in January for 1 night. I'll be very anxious to see how I feel 7 months after it opened-I'll bet it will look lots prettier.
 
My first impression was that we were visiting a moderate resort, not a Luxury resort.

I'm glad you posted this., DH & I toured SSR last Sunday. We had the same feelings. I was very disappointed as I was looking for an excuse to add-on. We own at BCV and it would be nice to have some points at a resort with grand villas.

Maybe as it matures it will get better as others have speculated. Right now, for us, it doesn't have that DVC feel to it. It reminded us more of our POR stay. I guess we'll be looking for a resale.
 
Originally posted by KellyDVC
By contrast, the rooms themselves are beautiful, and very nicely furnished - totally up to the usual DVC standard. In fact, my husband commented that the interiors seemed to have higher quality furnishings than usual. It just makes me regret that the outside doesn't reach that standard at all.

I haven't been to "the World" in about six months (sob!) so I can't comment on the exterior, except to say that landscaping takes a while to grow in and look right, even if price is no object.

As for the room interiors, though, I toured them at the sales center at BWV, and they looked *great*! I agree, they seem more upscale than the other DVC resorts that I've seen. I think this is because the other DVC resorts have a wilderness cabin or beach theme, while SSR has a spa theme. Real cabins and real beach cottages/hotels tend to be pretty plain.
 
This type of thread frequently gets pretty amusing. Don't be surprised if some members take this as "resort bashing" though it is not, IMO. I think one could make similar arguements about OKW, in some ways it is more similar to a moderate than a deluxe. In other ways it's very deluxe. And it's my favorite. We've actually had threads on both OKW and SSR in the past few months with similar orientations.
 
I liked the feel and layout of SSR. While it won't replace BCV and VWL as one of my favorites, I do feel it will give us a different type of vacation. We did what Mattsmom was contemplating, an add on strictly for the GV. When we stay at SSR I see us doing less of the parks and more enjoying a relaxed resort stay. The quiet pool by Congress Park was more appealing to me than the main pool. Having a childrens playground and barbecue area next to the pool I can foresee us spending lots of time here on future trips. The hallways are a non issue with me, it was the rooms that mattered. The GV certainly had that WOW factor. After seeing pictures of the rooms I didn't think I was going to like them as much as I did. The other thing that surprised me was how good the landscaping looked for being new. They did a fantastic job with the exterior areas. I'm looking forward to our first stay here in a GV :hyper: .
-Chris::MickeyMo
 
To carry Dean's thought a step further, I think you could post a thread entitled "Anyone less than thrilled with xxx" ( fill in the name of any DVC resort here ) and get similar responses.
 
I had read several posts from folks that were less than impressed with SSR after they visited the resort, so I went last week not expecting to be "wowed". I am so glad that I had read those posts, because I felt just the opposite. I really, really liked it. I did not mind the concrete corridors, and in fact was so glad that they have more protection than walking up the open steps at OKW. With the frequent storms we encounter at WDW, this will be nice.

I thought the interiors were beautiful and also thought that the common areas, check-in, the rental area, etc., all lended to a "small town" feel. I think this will become more apparent when the construction barricades are removed from the buildings right across the streeet from the main pool.

There is no way I would feel that I was staying at a moderate when staying at SSR. And I can also say that after staying in a regular room at the WL in March, I prefer a DVC studio at any of its locations to a room that is supposed to be considered Deluxe.

Maybe once you actually stay in one of the rooms and you experience the resort, your feelings will change.
 
I stayed in a studio 2 nights and a 1br 1 night at SSR. I don't think the rooms are that much different than BCV or VWL (except for the decor). I thought they were nice.

I was a little bit disappointed with the size of the pool area. I had a mental picture or an area probably 20 times bigger than what it is. When the resort is finished, I am wondering how crowded that area will be.

Other than that, I was really impressed with the themeing. From the Cinema to the Carriage house, the public buildings gave me a feeling of a small town. I really liked that.

I really hope that they will eventually get a restaurant at SSR because I don't want to have to walk over or take a boat over to DTD to get to a restuarant. We really liked the restuarant they used to have there (I can't remember the name of it). I was hoping that it would come back...

-DC :earsboy:
 
Does anyone know if they have any plans for the cinema besides member updates? Playing movies every night like they do at FW would be a great addition to this resort.::yes::
-Chris
 
I haven't seen SSR yet.

But just my own thoughts on on "moderate" vs "luxury" resort. Disney designates DVC as "Home Away from Home Resorts". Not Moderate, not Deluxe. So I think they can basically make them in whatever category (or as close to any category) as they want.

As someone said, BCV, BWV and VWL are all attached to Deluxe resorts, thus the amenities and theming are all tied onto the sister resorts.

Please, please, I'm not saying that OKW or SSR are not on par with deluxe resorts overall for what they supply with our DVC points. But there are reasons why the points are less and the maintenance fees are less. And I think what the OP as described is why.

Please don't flame or feel you need to defend - I'm not bashing anything. Just stating my observation.
 
"The Seasons" was the name of the restaurant that was over there. It was a great place to eat. I have not seen SSR yet so I can not comment on it.
 
Took a walk around SSR on saturday june 12th, as i can not disagree with some of the things people don't seem to like about SSR but SSR did WOW me as I walked and drove around the resort. The view to DTD and the Buildings seem to be up to Disney standards to me. But will say the constuction going on does take away from the over all feel I believe. The main pool does seem to be a little small but looks great and looking forward to staying there and useing it next year. The food court was very nice but I do agree with others that it does need a table service place.
 
Absolutely the construction takes a lot away.

I have a very relevant question here, have any of the other DVC resorts soft opened only partially finished like this? Does anyone have any experience with such a thing happening previously? I do think it is a little unfair to judge the exteriors based on a work in progress.

It might have been better to hold off the opening till they had more built, perhaps.

I've stayed at BWV during the height of the repair work that went on and I can definitely say it took a lot away from the resort to have fully half of it draped in scaffolding and canvas. Can't imagine how it was during inital construction.
 
OKW opened in phases simliar to SSR with only a 1/3 of the units finished at opening. I don't remember if the effect was as noticeable due to the layout of the OKW property.

As to BW, WL, and BC as I stated in my earlier response their standard of decor and landscaping was determined by being attached to a deluxe resort.

I do agree that the pool situation is a reason for concern especially if this is a popular area for DVC pool hopping.
 
Originally posted by Sammie
I do agree that the pool situation is a reason for concern especially if this is a popular area for DVC pool hopping.

Other concerns notwithstanding, pool hopping is supposedly only permitted when occupancy levels allow for other resort guests to visit. That said, I doubt many people actually check with the resort front desk before hopping. But it would be pretty easy to throw SSR on the "no hopping permitted" list if crowd levels justify such a move.

Hopefully they'll make the best overall decision and just include another feature pool with Phase 3.
 



















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