Any other families planning for a furlough?

I think it's pretty much impossible to answer this question. Hopefully the program will keep your son updated as he proceeds through the application process. Best of luck to him!

Thanks. The program has said nothing except that it does not expect the sequestration cuts to have "more than a minor impact" on the program, whatever that means.

The awards for each country are sent separately, and this week, students who received awards to study in about a half-dozen different countries were notified. Three countries were notified today. So I guess the program is moving ahead. I have no idea how the Dept. of State would budget for a program that operates from fall 2013 to summer 2014. But I guess they have figured something out.

Now if they would just announce the awards for my son's country!
 
I heard on the radio this morning that they are working on a plan to cut the furloughs from 22 days to 14 days starting in June. Not ideal, but definitely better.
 
I heard on the radio this morning that they are working on a plan to cut the furloughs from 22 days to 14 days starting in June. Not ideal, but definitely better.

That's a start! I was beginning to think that it was a done deal and no one cared. Its all just so completely illogical to me. I know for me, this will not only affect us, but everyone we would be spending our money with, from the local hair cutters to Wal-Mart to Carnival Cruise Line. Times that by what is it, 800,000 other families?
 
I found this article this morning.

APNewsBreak: Pentagon cuts number of furlough days
March 27, 2013 RSS Feed Print

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon will sharply cut the number of unpaid furlough days civilians will be forced to take over the next several months from 22 to 14, defense officials said Wednesday, reducing the impact of automatic budget cuts on as many as 700,000 workers.

According to defense officials, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel made the decision Wednesday, as military service chiefs and defense leaders continued to work through the details, trying to prioritize how they will allocate the more than $10 billion that Congress, in an attempt to take some of the sting out of the across-the-board budget cuts, shifted to operations and maintenance accounts. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter ahead of the public announcement.

While some of the military services initially considered eliminating the furloughs altogether, senior leaders argued that since not all the services could do that, it would be better to treat all civilians across the defense department equally.

The military had been faced with some $43 billion in automatic, across-the-board cuts that kicked in March 1, but lawmakers passed a massive spending bill last week that shifted money around in order to give the Defense Department more flexibility in how it found the savings.

Initially, civilians would have been required to take one day a week off without pay for 22 weeks, through the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30 — a 20 percent pay cut for more than five months. The congressional action has given officials the leeway to lessen the salary cuts and also spread money around to other key priorities, including training, maintenance and possible ship deployments.

As an example, the Navy had delayed the refueling overhauls of two aircraft carriers, the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Abraham Lincoln — critical maintenance work that officials said would be among the priorities if additional funding could be identified.

Under the new plan, the unpaid furloughs would not begin until mid-June, with notices going out before that.

Officials have been meeting over the past week to discuss the range of options, including how many of the furlough days could be eliminated.

The Pentagon has declined to say how many of the 800,000 civilian employees would be exempt from the furloughs, although officials have estimated it would be at least 10 percent of the overall civilian workforce. Officials said last week that about 5 percent of Navy and Marine Corps civilians and about 24 percent of Army civilians likely would be exempt from the furloughs, although those numbers may change with the new funding.

Exempt workers include civilians in the war zone and in critical public safety jobs, as well as people whose jobs are not paid for through congressional funding. As an example, some employees may be contractors or people working in facilities that pay for operations out of their earnings, such as some recreation jobs or foreign military sales.

Critics have complained that the Pentagon has overstated the effects of the spending cuts and has canceled or sliced into more visible and popular programs. In early announcements the Navy delayed the deployment of an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf and canceled several other ship deployments, while other services slashed training, equipping and maintenance programs, cut commissary hours and warned that 15,000 teachers and staff would be furloughed one day a week at the 194 military schools around the world.

The Pentagon had said they would manage those furloughs so that pupils got the required hours of education and the schools did not lose their accreditation.
 

Yay! This makes a huge difference to us. We've already been on our reduced budget this month and it is really tight. We were determined not to spend our savings, but the reduced budget we needed to enable us to keep up with tuition payments was kind of impossible. Now I can bump that budget up a bit. Losing 8 less days will be a big relief!
 
That's a start! I was beginning to think that it was a done deal and no one cared. Its all just so completely illogical to me. I know for me, this will not only affect us, but everyone we would be spending our money with, from the local hair cutters to Wal-Mart to Carnival Cruise Line. Times that by what is it, 800,000 other families?

It may not be a done deal, but still NO ONE CARES! If they cared, congress would not have taken their spring recess and fixed this.... but they left proving they don't care!

---Paul in Southern NJ
 
I absolutely hate that this is effecting DOD teachers and schools especially since when you are over seas you have no choice but to attend these schools. I hope that they are able to figure out away around this because making cuts to education is never a good idea and cutting back instructional days will put the DOD schools in jeopardy of losing their accreditation.
 
The general public doesn't quite understand how this will effect them. Just look at this thread. The GP thinks that all federal employees are overpaid and have "lush" benefits. They don't realize that as we lose our income, we will stop spending in the local economy. We won't be vacationing. Our budgets will get tighter out of necessity. They just don't see how us not spending will effect them.
 
The general public doesn't quite understand how this will effect them. Just look at this thread. The GP thinks that all federal employees are overpaid and have "lush" benefits. They don't realize that as we lose our income, we will stop spending in the local economy. We won't be vacationing. Our budgets will get tighter out of necessity. They just don't see how us not spending will effect them.

Well, for one thing, I don't think the average citizen really understands how the economy works.

Also, I think that people who have had tough times and/or no job over the last few years feel that the government has forgotten about them, so why should they care if government workers have to face the same situation they have been in. I don't agree with this (I am a government contractor myself) and I think it is a misguided notion, but I can see how someone might think that way.
 
Personally, I'm much happier with 14 days than I was with 22 and, while I hope it goes down a bit more, I do feel like people are showing that they understand some of the impact this will have. I read last night about Obama giving up 14 days income and that made me feel better as well. At least it hasn't been forgotten. I wish congress would follow suit. It's a token sacrifice for most of them, but one that would at least send a message.
 
Teacher in Ga here and my small district was fortunate to only lose 4 days this past school calendar and upcoming vs the 10 days we had to take for 2 years prior. I am compensating my income by taking on extra work with my school system as a hospital homebound teacher. It is hard at times juggling schedules to squeeze in the time after work to do it but I dont want to give up our family vacations so we make it work (so grateful to my mom for helping us out with this too). Also, been couponing alot more on necessary items and more frugal with NOT buying stuff just because I have a coupon and wanted it.
 
Instead of trying to fix it so it won't happen our president has decided to take a 5% cut himself, like that makes it ok??? Just makes me realize they really aren't going to fix it and they really think this is ok!
 
lucigo said:
Instead of trying to fix it so it won't happen our president has decided to take a 5% cut himself, like that makes it ok??? Just makes me realize they really aren't going to fix it and they really think this is ok!

That 5% is 20k, which is nothing. Does this 5% deduction put more money in the pockets of the foroughed?!? I think not!! This is a slap in the face.
 
That 5% is 20k, which is nothing. Does this 5% deduction put more money in the pockets of the foroughed?!? I think not!! This is a slap in the face.

I guess I see it differently. I hope it will get congress talking about doing the same. I think that's really the only way it will get reduced more - Keep them talking about it, make it seem more real.
 
That 5% is 20k, which is nothing. Does this 5% deduction put more money in the pockets of the foroughed?!? I think not!! This is a slap in the face.

I don't see it your way.

I see it as my employees are going to suffer, I will do the same. Haven't we talked about Congress also being put under the same reduced pay status like us? It's the same thing.

Sadly, the way the law is written, Congress can not vote themselves a pay cut (or pay raise). They are only allowed under law to make those changes for the next Congress, not theirs. That is why they haven't been part of this.

On the other hand, if Congress wants to send 10% of their pay back to the treasury in solidarity with their "troops", I'm all for it. It won't make a dent in the problem, but it does present an image of I'm not special and above all of this!

---Paul in Southern NJ
 
I don't see it your way.

I see it as my employees are going to suffer, I will do the same. Haven't we talked about Congress also being put under the same reduced pay status like us? It's the same thing.

Sadly, the way the law is written, Congress can not vote themselves a pay cut (or pay raise). They are only allowed under law to make those changes for the next Congress, not theirs. That is why they haven't been part of this.

On the other hand, if Congress wants to send 10% of their pay back to the treasury in solidarity with their "troops", I'm all for it. It won't make a dent in the problem, but it does present an image of I'm not special and above all of this!

---Paul in Southern NJ

Plus, we keep being told this is a 20% pay cut, not 5%....so if he really wanted to show his support why wouldn't he have made his "sacrifice" 20% also!
 
Plus, we keep being told this is a 20% pay cut, not 5%....so if he really wanted to show his support why wouldn't he have made his "sacrifice" 20% also!

I don't know about 20% cut..... So far we have been told we are furloughed 1 day a pay period for 10 pay periods. So that is 10% per pay period cut, not 20%. If you annualize it, it is less than half that.

---Paul in Southern NJ
 
The furlough now stands at 14 days, which is roughly 5% of an ANNUAL salary. The article I read was quite clear that he was giving back 14 days.

My understanding is that most DOD employees will lose one day a week during the furlough time, so that is 20% of those paychecks. However, the rest of the year will be back to normal resulting in only 5% over the year.
 












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