Any Christian familys at DW IN May

[jenr812]

wow ok....let's see....ummmmm at a loss here....for what it is worth i am going to give my op.......
we are atheists, we are also good people.. who give to our community, and to others less fortunate. we live our life in the old adadge of, treat others how you want to be treated. we judge no one for their beliefs, and we feel it is what is wonderful about this country, that we have the right to believe how we want to, or not.
i know plenty of atheists who are wonderful people, and some who are not so wonderful, just as i know (and am related to) some wonderful christians, and some not so wonderful ones.

do i feel that the starter of this innocent thread would want to set up a greet and meet with us, prob not...but if we were to be sitting by the pool and started talking,, and the kids started playing, do i think that they would grab them, and run screaming from us...not one bit...as we would never do that either. when i meet new people the first thing i ask isn't, so what are your beliefs? it is hi, i am.....nice to meet you, this is my dh...and my son.....

never once was it stated that they didn't want to meet anyone of other beliefs, or non believers...just wanting to meet some people they have a connection with. and maybe discuss their same religion. would they want to meet up with dh hubby and myself, as we head to rose and crown for an ale..prob not. that isn't something they do. just like if someone asked hey want to get together and have some tofu..people who don't care for tofu aren't going to meet up and go out to eat with them.
did anyone try and say, well i am not christian, but i will be there the same time, and would love to meet you. as atheists we are judged as being "bad" people. where we, (my family is all i am speaking for, as i have no right to speak for others) are actually very big hearted, kind, caring, and giving, and seem to always judge less then others, as we are always on the other side, and know how it feels.

life is to short......can't we all just get along

thanks for this post. I particularly think that you hit the nail on the head with the part I highlighted. Thank you for taking this thread at face value and not automatically thinking that the OP has something against non-Christians. Like I and others have said, this is really not much different than someone saying, "Any other Yankees fans...?" or "Any childless couples...?" etc. It really stinks being judged for any reason, but the OP was not doing that at all. Some people just can't leave well enough alone though

Have a wonderful night!

 

[DMRick]

i know plenty of atheists who are wonderful people, and some who are not so wonderful, just as i know (and am related to) some wonderful christians, and some not so wonderful ones.
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As do I. Thanks for the nice letter. And if you'll be down there in May (we'll be at POR May 17-24), I'd love to meet you, by the pool or otherwise. You might even see me in the Rose and Crown, I'll be the one lifting the ice water

 

[MomofKatie]

Ok, I have nothing to add to the conversation... just wanted to say, Hi, Jenr812!! Either I have been stalking you or the other way around- EVERY thread I read this evening had a post by you in it!!!

Just wanted to say "Hi" from another Jen!

 

[eeyore45]

"Those who have no compassion have no wisdom. Knowledge, yes; cleverness, maybe; wisdom, no. A clever mind is not a heart.Knowledge doesn't really care. Wisdom does."

"When you wake up in the morning, Pooh," said Piglet at last, "what's the first thing you say to yourself?"
"What's for breakfast? said Pooh. "What do you say, Piglet?"
"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?" said Piglet.
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
"It's the same thing," he said.

"What's that?" the Unbeliever asked.
"Wisdom from the Western Taoist,"I said.
"It sounds like something from Winnie-the-Pooh ," he said.
"It is," I said.
"That's not about Taoism," he said.
"Oh, yes it is," I said."


Through working in harmony with life's circumstances, Taoist understanding changes what others may percieve as negative into something positive.

When you discard arrogance, complexity, and a few other things that get in the way, sooner or later you will discover that simple, childlike, and mysterious secret known to those of the Uncarved Block: Life is Fun.

The wise are not learned; the learned are not wise

A well-frog cannot imagine the ocean, nor can a summer insect conceive of ice. How then can a scholar understand the Tao? He is restricted by his own learning.

"Lots of people talk to animals," said Pooh.
"Not that many listen though."
"That's the problem."

You'd be surprised how many people violate this simple principle every day of their lives and try to fit square pegs into round holes, ignoring the clear reality that Things Are As They Are.

Everything has its own place and function. That applies to people, although many don't seem to realize it, stuck as they are in the wrong job, the wrong marriage, or the wrong house. When you know and respect your Inner Nature, you know where you belong. You also know where you don't belong.

 

[civileng68]

Please note that I have not read every post so if someone said something inappropriate to cause this sort of thread drift, then please pardon me.

However, if nobody has said anything inappropriate, my question is, if you are not a christian, then fine. That is your business. However, please grow up a little and choose not to be so easily offended by someone who simply wants to meet up with someone else who may be of the same faith as them.

If you were to go to some Muslim countries you would not even be allowed to cross the border without risking severe bodily harm if you were not of the same faith. This is simply someone wanting to meet up with some people who may have some things in common with them.

Regardless of your faith, or non faith, some of you need to stop being offended by those who are of a specific faith and stop disallowing them to even mention it in your presence. If you are not, fine, move on. That sort of attitude you carry is the sort that divides countries and people in general. Just think, if you are offended by every other person that feels differently than you, well, your life is going to be harder than life already is.

I appreciate and respect anyone who can respect me. If I am in a room full of people from a faith, of which I am not a member, I am fine so long as those people respect me.

Example: I am far from mormon, however, I have a good group of mormon friends who invite me to their church each week to play basketball with the other members. I am the only non-mormon there and you'd never know it by the way I am treated. However, I would never be offended by them speaking about their faith in my presence. In fact I'm not even offended by the fact that a mormon woman would never marry me (I'm married now but I'm speaking before that) because I am not of her faith. I just dont see the problem. People like to be around people they have things in common with.

 

[Mysteria]

Please note that I have not read every post so if someone said something inappropriate to cause this sort of thread drift, then please pardon me.

However, if nobody has said anything inappropriate, my question is, if you are not a christian, then fine. That is your business. However, please grow up a little and choose not to be so easily offended by someone who simply wants to meet up with someone else who may be of the same faith as them.

If you were to go to some Muslim countries you would not even be allowed to cross the border without risking severe bodily harm if you were not of the same faith. This is simply someone wanting to meet up with some people who may have some things in common with them.

Regardless of your faith, or non faith, some of you need to stop being offended by those who are of a specific faith and stop disallowing them to even mention it in your presence. If you are not, fine, move on. That sort of attitude you carry is the sort that divides countries and people in general. Just think, if you are offended by every other person that feels differently than you, well, your life is going to be harder than life already is.

I appreciate and respect anyone who can respect me. If I am in a room full of people from a faith, of which I am not a member, I am fine so long as those people respect me.

Example: I am far from mormon, however, I have a good group of mormon friends who invite me to their church each week to play basketball with the other members. I am the only non-mormon there and you'd never know it by the way I am treated. However, I would never be offended by them speaking about their faith in my presence. In fact I'm not even offended by the fact that a mormon woman would never marry me (I'm married now but I'm speaking before that) because I am not of her faith. I just dont see the problem. People like to be around people they have things in common with.

ITA. I too have have to admit I have not read through all of this thread so if something way off and offensive was said I'm sorry but.... I knew as soon as it was posted by the OP it would become an issue. I was hoping I would be wrong bacause it shouldn't be...but I wasn't. I am saddened by that.

Myst

 

[Stitch Inside]

I guess I just don't see how the OP was not friendly. Some people meet because they are solo. Some people meet because they are pin collectors. Some people meet because they have similar medical problems. Some people meet because they are DVC owners, some people meet because they are crafters. Some will be there on a convention, and have like interests, so they arranged to meet. Some people meet to trade off on a stroller, and some meet because they are young and single (at least I read on another board two single parents were going to be meeting and they met on this board!). Some might even meet because they are from another country and feel a kinship. So what's the big deal about this? I'd be happy to meet you, and discuss religion with you while the kids play (well, if I had kids with me)..it's just if you aren't interested, what would be the sense?

PS any Yankee fans want to meet to watch the game? No Red Sox fans need apply LOL!

I was with you all the way until you stated you were a Yankee fan. May St. Peter have mercy on your soul.

 

[SamanthaL]

I thought this was fine post and I hope the OP gets to meet up with others of the same faith.

The part I was not fine with....I am a non-Christian. I did not particularly appreciate being compared to a foul-mouthed, drunk, drug dealer.

I hope you have a fabulous first trip and that it is truely magical!

 

[Stitch Inside]

The part I was not fine with....I am a non-Christian. I did not particularly appreciate being compared to a foul-mouthed, drunk, drug dealer.

I don't think that was the intent of the person who made those analogies. But if it makes you feel any better, I'm a Christian who has been a foul-mouthed drunk who used drugs.

 

[DMRick]

I was with you all the way until you stated you were a Yankee fan. May St. Peter have mercy on your soul.

Guess you won't want to get together with me, eh? I'm from NY, did you expect anything less? Just to throw this into the mix..I don't like Stitch..so there

 

[Lizzybee]

Gee whiz and to think I came to the happiest message board on Earth to avoid the drama in AOL chatrooms! C'mon if I wanted to meet people who like blue shoes, would that create a ruckus? The bottom line is YES someone would be vehemently opposed to me excluding the red shoes people because there are people who seek reasons to be vehemently opposed to something.

 

[MommytoMJM]

When will you be at WDW?

Hi Jen!

Well, I just about live at WDW! My DH has Fridays and Saturdays off and we are there just about all Fridays and Saturdays for all or part of the day! (we are so lucky) we will also be there in My on the 5th and the 22nd too.

We love to meet others and we try really hard to work around others scehdules since we get to go so much more than anyone else.

Just so you know, my daughter is special needs and I am disabled. She and I are both in wheelchairs. It doesn't slow us down any, we are usually there from open to close. It is one of the few places that MJ and I can be close to "normal"

I hope we can meet up!

 

[Stitch Inside]

Guess you won't want to get together with me, eh? I'm from NY, did you expect anything less?:

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and hoped you were maybe a Mets fan.

Just to throw this into the mix..I don't like Stitch..so there

Now let's not get personal here.

 

[kakiegirl]

I usually don't post on agrumentative threads but this is so ridiculous. I have seen other posts before like any other families from New York or so on who would like to meet up and people don't get offended. I mean for goodness sakes isn't there a post for diser's to meet together. Should people who don't post on this board find out about that and get offended and come on here flaming us for not including them, that they are good people and they love Disney just as much as we do. I did not see anything insulting about the original post it was a nice post. It is normal and the ususal for people to be intrested in people who have something in common with them. If you fill out a form for a pin pal or a dating service they are going to look for things you have in common. For alot of Christians their religious beliefs are the most important thing to them so that would be one of the first things they would look for in someone else. It dosesn't mean they think other people aren't as good as them. This has just turned into an ugly, ulgy post for no reason at all. This is a country founded on freedom for everyone no matter what their belief is, which means people should be free to meet with whoever they want to at disney world. Big deal if they don't want to meet with you don't let it offend you if you dislike them feeling that way you probably wouldn't enjoy meeting with them anyway. This country is getting to where people expect you to be so darn politically correct it is not going to be safe to say anything in public anymore.

 

[DMRick]

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and hoped you were maybe a Mets fan.
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At least those tickets are always available

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Ok, so I go away from the DIS boards for a few days and I come back to this . What a sweet thread as it began, and then the pot stirrers came along.... .

Why is it not OK for Christians to express an interest in meeting other Christians? I would have no problem with Muslims posting seeking other Muslims, atheists posting seeking other atheists (although that sounds like a silly hypothetical construct), etc. I think it has gotten to the point now where the word "Christian" causes some raised eyebrows. Christians are people too, you know .

As to the OP, I really wish me and my family were going to be at WDW during the same time you were going to be there. We would have loved to have met you and talked about Disney and God for a while.

 

[nativetxn]

Welcome to the DIS. I hope that you can visit us often. We have transatlantic chat every Sunday evening at 7pm GMT. I sure hope you will join us.

Please stop arguing or this thread will be closed.

Katholyn

 

[jenr812]

Ok, I have nothing to add to the conversation... just wanted to say, Hi, Jenr812!! Either I have been stalking you or the other way around- EVERY thread I read this evening had a post by you in it!!!

Just wanted to say "Hi" from another Jen!

Hi Jen! We're neighbors!

 

[umbluegray]

I wouldn't feel the least bit slighted that that person didn't ask if any San Antonio Spurs fans (YEAH, SPURS!!!) wanted to get together and watch the game at the ESPN restuarant.

Now, if you're going to bring sports into it, then all I've got to say is...

Go Grizzlies!

 

[PKS44]

Why is it not OK for Christians to express an interest in meeting other Christians? I would have no problem with Muslims posting seeking other Muslims, atheists posting seeking other atheists (although that sounds like a silly hypothetical construct), etc. I think it has gotten to the point now where the word "Christian" causes some raised eyebrows. Christians are people too, you know .

your post shows why such an expression is interpreted as ignorant, narrow-minded...So Christians expressing an interest in meeting other Christians is just a natural thing for "people" to do...but atheists doing the same--well that is just silly--atheists apparently from your statement are not "people, too"--atheists expressing an interest in meeting other atheists would be like some insects wanting to meet each other...that is just so silly...

...and again the other thing that most of the posts ignore or seem ignorant of is that the whole umbrella term CHRISTIAN is soooo NOT a common thing--there are so many VIOLENT disagreements between self-labeled CHRISTIANS that it is only someone with a very narrow mind or limited life experience that would think that using it as a means to sort out the desirable from the undesirable would be useful...they might benefit by expanding their horizons...

Those who call themselves CHRISTIANS are people, too, you know-as you wrote--that means they have been nice and mean, good and bad, pleasant and unpleasant, drunk and sober, honest and dishonest, decent, law abiding loving,people and child molesting, raping, horrible murderers---etc...just about anything you could describe as human behaviouir has been done by self-professed Christians and non-Christians, alike....