Any Christian familys at DW IN May

[donaldsgal]

i think what matters here is that this family wants to spend time with other families who share their faith in a Christian God. The family did not say they did not want to meet Jews, Muslims, Hindus (I hope I spelled that right - no desire to offend), Buddhists, Wiccans, or Athiests. The FAMILY said they wanted to HANG OUT WITH other Christian families. Anything else we are reading into the post is OUR interpretation, not what was intended.

Instead of launching into a huge debate about whether or not it's polite to word threads in a particular way, we should just answer the question or find another thread to participate in. This is the family's first trip to Disney, so I hope we all can just welcome them into the Disney family and not blast them for wanting to spend time with other families.

Other threads exist where a group is purposely left out (the democratic and republican threads both ask the other side not to post and start debates), and there's not much of a problem there. Politics and religion are touchy, but what I've noticed is that the Christian posters have been, from what I can recall without going back to re-read, polite and merely trying to advocate for being allowed to spend time with whomever we choose. I'm sure no one meant any offense at what is being said... let's just celebrate that another family found Disney!

If you don't like what's being said, just ignore the thread. No offense is meant, but no one should have to apologize for their beliefs or lack thereof. I believe in the truth of the Bible and all it contains, but no one owes me an apology for why they reject it, doubt it, or embrace it. As bytheblood said, this is not a perfect world so we're not all going to see eye-to-eye. We can work to make sure we all just agree to disagree though, which i think should be our attitude here. I won't ask anyone to apologize for believing or not believing in my God, but I will ask that you also do not expect me to apologize for believing what I do. I may get flamed for this, but oh well. That's the risk you take when you post in these threads.

that being said, I hope the OP has a GREAT time in a GREAT place. don't let this thread discourage you; people from all groups visit this place and have a wonderful, amazing time.

Oh, and threads for Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. would be cool!

Jenny (attends Heritage Baptist Church in Ohio and won't be back until Oct. )

 

[Ducky4Disney]

I didn't mean to start any of this, or open this can of worms, but I should know better than to open my big mouth.

My issues with this topic are rooted in my born-again MIL. I love my MIL, but if I hang out with her too long I want to beat my head against a wall. And I tend to get into theological arguemtents with her too . I'm glutton for punishment I suppose. She was recently married, and when I asked her if she had found a photographer she said, "Yes, we found a nice young Christian couple". Do Christians take better pictures than the other religions? Would she have rejected them if they were any other religion? The OP sturck that chord with me.

I know that the OP did not intend to offend me or anyone else. I know that they only wanted to meet up with new and interesting people while on thier vacation in WDW, and I hope they do. WDW is a wonderful place, full of all sorts of people from all walks of life. I hope they are prepared to meet all of them because they will be in line with them, sharing elevators, working the rides, and just plain everywhere.

I feel responsible for this mess, I'm truly sorry!
Merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!

Blessed Be,
D4D

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Ducky4DIsney - don't feel bad I don't think you started any of this. I think when people start comparing non-CHristians to drug abusers, etc. people get upset. I am sure the OP didn't mean for it to come off the way it sounded but it did sound mean spirited.

I know what you mean about some "Christians" though. We are Christian - we are Catholics. When my son started college his room mate was a born again CHristian, son of a minister. Fine. We were very nice to this boy. When we went to parents weekend we always invited him out to dinner with us and we always sent enough snacks for both of them in my frequent "care packages". THis boys "Christian" family, dropped him off - didn't even help him set up his room. They never came to see him, never sent him a single care package except a new Bible, and basically left him on his own. When he was ready to go home for the summer they told him they were being changed to a different congregation in another city and there wouldn't be room for him at the new house. My Ds eventually changed room mates after first semester of sophmore year because he got tired of being told he was going to hell as Catholics are not true-believers. So the term Christian, doesn't always mean Christ-like.

 

[disneyaggie]

I think it was cool to want to link up with another Christian family! It is sad to see several people make such an issue of this. Big deal -- get over it!

I think that if someone wants to meet up with another Christian family, good for them! I know I would want to! And I hope they have the greatest, God-filled time at WDW they could ever imagine! Pixie dust to all my Christian brothers and sisters!

 

[disneyaggie]

My wife and I along with our two children Abigail 8 and Adam 6 will be first timmers ariving May 20th till 3rd June. We come from Scotland and would like to meet up with any Christian familys at the parks during that time.
We are all very freindly and currently attent the Church of the Nazarene in Huston Renfrewshire Scotland.
If you would like to meet up as a family please get in touch.
All very excited about our first trip.
God bless
Andrew, Andrena, Abigail and Adam (The 4 aaaa's)

This Christian is going in September! And I am also from Scottish decent! Welcome to WDW! I hope you have a wonderful and blessed trip! I know I always do! As a matter of fact, I always look forward to some God time and as always, He provides! I see so much of His wonder each time I go! Hope you experience the same wonder on your trip!

 

[Miranda Danda]

My family will arrive May 2 for 2 weeks. We attend Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis, TN, one of America's largest Southern Baptist churches.

Just though I would say "hi" and I am Southern Baptist, too. I go to Hillcrest Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida.

 

[brtls5]

WOW!! I'm not very far from Pratt!!! I'm in Norwich!

 

[DMRick]

Oh oh..we just dropped out son off too (after pushing his hideabed couch up three flights of stairs). He said..see ya LOL. He didn't want our help..he was anxious to be on his own. I did send a couple care packages but he was our third off to college, so I wasn't very diligent (he has the least amount of pictures too..well, actually, I never quite got around to filling out his baby book at all). I was just happy to be changing his room into my office, and I couldnt' wait to get home to get started LOL! Different strokes for different folks. I'm sure everyone knows a "bad" Christian, just as everyone knows a bad non-Christian. All this gal wanted to do was meet up with someone that has like interests. Just like many other people want to do. I didn't see where someone actually said that non Christians were druggies. Maybe her analogy was not a good one, but good grief, the OP (who will prob never come back..and I wouldn't blame her) only wanted to meet someone she thought she could talk to and would have stuff in common.

 

[Cinderella37]

The OP seemed to be posting an innocent question. Though I'm Catholic, I'm sure that some people spend more time speaking about their faith and in church than I do. Perhaps this family was interested in attending church with others, praying, etc. I don't think it was meant to come off the way some people are taking it.

I look at this post the same way I would if someone posted and wanted to meet other golfers, parasailers, families with kids, non-drinkers, etc. Human nature sometimes causes us to want to spend time with people with like interests. Perhaps this family wanted another family to hold Bible readings with and so on.

Looking at our group of friends, my fiance and his close friends golf, belong to the same clubs and like to have a "good time" (i.e. indulge in a beverage or two...). Sometimes they (we) don't attend church. We're all of the same faith (oddly enough), but this isn't what brought us together. I share common interests with my friends that others may not be interested in or may think are shallow. A family or couples who do not drink and devote large amounts of time to sharing and speaking about their fatih may not want to spend time with us (even though we are devout in our faith).

I think the main problem is that some of the OPs came of as judging non-Christians when some potentially offensive analogies were used. I honestly don't think the OPs were comparing non-Christians to drug addicts (at least I hope not). Religion is a very personal and touchy subject, as well a reason for much historical and, unfortunately, current persecution.

 

[brtls5]

Yikes! I've read this entire thread... and actually was disappointed. What's the big deal if they wanted to meet like minded people? If the post were to say.. looking for a family with young children. Should I be offended that they did not want to meet my 12 yo? Or even my 8 yo? Afterall, he's not a young child. Why would they want to single out MY family. Really, we're a fun family and gosh why would they not want to meet us! <inserting sacrasm> I think it's just fine if someone just wants to hang out with someone they have something in common with! I don't hang out with people at home that I don't have something in common with. Somewhere there is something! That isnt to say there are times that I develop friendships with someone that we have different views on things. But most of the families that my family spend time with, we have something in common. I cannot imagine going on vacation with a family that we didn't really have anything in common. I think it'd be very awkward. Hanging out together and just meeting or visiting in line with someone are two different things to me.

Btw, my family also have membership in the Church of the Nazarene.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Oh oh..we just dropped out son off too (after pushing his hideabed couch up three flights of stairs). He said..see ya LOL. He didn't want our help..he was anxious to be on his own. I did send a couple care packages but he was our third off to college, so I wasn't very diligent (he has the least amount of pictures too..well, actually, I never quite got around to filling out his baby book at all). I was just happy to be changing his room into my office, and I couldnt' wait to get home to get started LOL! Different strokes for different folks. I'm sure everyone knows a "bad" Christian, just as everyone knows a bad non-Christian. All this gal wanted to do was meet up with someone that has like interests. Just like many other people want to do. I didn't see where someone actually said that non Christians were druggies. Maybe her analogy was not a good one, but good grief, the OP (who will prob never come back..and I wouldn't blame her) only wanted to meet someone she thought she could talk to and would have stuff in common.

When you say people who don't use drugs don't want to be around drug users, people who don't drink don't want to be around people who do ... you don't think that sets up an analogy that's pretty unflattering. My point also wasn't good v. bad non-Christian. There's plenty good and bad in both to go around. My point was just because someone calls themselves "Christian" doesn't mean they are good people. I'm sure you wouldn't have moved and told your son - sorry no room for you as I was referring when I talked about my sons college roommate.

 

[msudawgs30]

i think what matters here is that this family wants to spend time with other families who share their faith in a Christian God. The family did not say they did not want to meet Jews, Muslims, Hindus (I hope I spelled that right - no desire to offend), Buddhists, Wiccans, or Athiests. The FAMILY said they wanted to HANG OUT WITH other Christian families. Anything else we are reading into the post is OUR interpretation, not what was intended.

Instead of launching into a huge debate about whether or not it's polite to word threads in a particular way, we should just answer the question or find another thread to participate in. This is the family's first trip to Disney, so I hope we all can just welcome them into the Disney family and not blast them for wanting to spend time with other families.

Other threads exist where a group is purposely left out (the democratic and republican threads both ask the other side not to post and start debates), and there's not much of a problem there. Politics and religion are touchy, but what I've noticed is that the Christian posters have been, from what I can recall without going back to re-read, polite and merely trying to advocate for being allowed to spend time with whomever we choose. I'm sure no one meant any offense at what is being said... let's just celebrate that another family found Disney!

If you don't like what's being said, just ignore the thread. No offense is meant, but no one should have to apologize for their beliefs or lack thereof. I believe in the truth of the Bible and all it contains, but no one owes me an apology for why they reject it, doubt it, or embrace it. As bytheblood said, this is not a perfect world so we're not all going to see eye-to-eye. We can work to make sure we all just agree to disagree though, which i think should be our attitude here. I won't ask anyone to apologize for believing or not believing in my God, but I will ask that you also do not expect me to apologize for believing what I do. I may get flamed for this, but oh well. That's the risk you take when you post in these threads.

that being said, I hope the OP has a GREAT time in a GREAT place. don't let this thread discourage you; people from all groups visit this place and have a wonderful, amazing time.

Oh, and threads for Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. would be cool!

Jenny (attends Heritage Baptist Church in Ohio and won't be back until Oct. )

I hope the OP has a wonderful time and I wish I were going during their stay. I plan to visit their homeland next year and would love to chat .

 

[eeyore45]

I respect that the original poster is from Scotland.

People (generally speaking) tend to forget that even tho those that post in one tone or point of view, people read it an entirely different way. Because of the written word, we forget that posters are young, old, male, female, different cultures.

Respect. I hope the original poster is still around, and will continue to want to meet other Dis'ers.

 

[DMRick]

When you say people who don't use drugs don't want to be around drug users, people who don't drink don't want to be around people who do ... you don't think that sets up an analogy that's pretty unflattering. .

That wasn't my analogy..you have me mixed up with someone else. I never made that comparison.

My point also wasn't good v. bad non-Christian. There's plenty good and bad in both to go around..

I wasn't sure what your point was in posting that story. People are people. One person may think something makes someone a "good" Christian, and someone else may think something else does. I was happy to see my son off on his new life, and happy to make his bedroom into my office. I have no idea about the dynamics of that other family, or their relationship with their son, and wouldn't even take a guess at it in a forum. My point was just that the gal wanted to meet someone with like interests. I'm sure that's all she meant.

 

[HayGan]

Why must everything around here turn into a debate

The OP (who by the way is new to the DIS community) came simply asking if anyone with similar thoughts and beliefs would be visiting WDW at the same time and would like to meet. They were not in any way insulting other faiths or beliefs, they were simply looking to meet people who had a similar values to them. I can completely understand wanting to meet families who were similar to our own. That is not saying that I woouldn't want ot meet others as well but I would be more inclined to meet people who would probably have the same interests as our own.

Would your rather the OP say who is going to WDW during this time and have a bunch of people reply and then turn around and decide not to meet with those people because they would be maybe engaging in activities that do not go along with that families values (drinking, etc.)?? Then everyone would be ranting and raving about why didn't they say that in the first place.

I'm sure that many people around here would like to meet up with others of similar backgrounds (race, religion, sexual preference, etc.) but certainly would be relcutant to post such a question here for fear of being flamed for such.

To the OP, I hope you have a wonderful trip. I also hope you have the opportunity to meet some wonderful DIS members because most of us here are very nice and respectful towards others!!!!!

 

[jenr812]

Good gracious what a mess this turned into. I hope it hasn't soured the OP from the DIS boards. I don't get the big deal. The only reason ANY analogies were made is because some people came in the thread with snarky comments about why the OP was being exclusive (which he/she wasn't!). I'm not saying that the analogies were right, either, but that's not the point.


How would it be different if the title was Any GIRL SCOUTS in DW in May? Would it start a huge debate about the exclusion of BOY SCOUTS??? It just seems that whenever the word CHRISTIAN is around, people have to jump all over it. And this has nothing to do with the drug user/alcohol drinker comment, either, because the snarkiness started prior to that.


I hope you have a blessed trip OP!!! Come back to the DIS - we really are a great bunch

 

[jenr812]

PS Just don't ask about refillable mugs or pool hopping, ok???

 

[disneyaggie]

PS Just don't ask about refillable mugs or pool hopping, ok???

 

[MrsJ Henry]

This is just so sad. Why do these things have to turn into these debates? A person from another Country, than most of us posters here , comes on here to post a simple question... Like all of us do..... but because some people don't like that question it turns into a debate.
What if the OP asked if any others from Scotland would be at WDW and wanted to meet up? Not ONE person would have a problem with this question I would bet. We would all just move on to another thread.

I have been on other boards and I read about people saying that the DisBoards are not as friendly as many of the other boards.... that people get flamed here and to be careful what you ask. How terrible that we are getting that reputation.

This thread started out so nicely. One poster actually said "what a sweet thread" this was. What a shame it had to turn so sour.

IF we are to have tollerace of others shouldn't that mean that all people no matter what their beliefs and who they want to spend time with also have the rights to do that. The OP meant no harm, why must we throw words around that might hurt them?

 

[rich_84]

I don't mind threads like this because as many people have said - they just ask a simple question and other people need not look or reply if they are not interested in the thread title. But as religion is such a flash-point for discussion and debate I do wonder if it would be better to open a new sub-heading, board or whatever they are called for different religious believers to post about meeting, feelings about Disney, what rides might imply what to their religion etc etc.

I do not practice in any type of religion, and will not think of people any differently whichever religion they choose to believe in as long as they do not harm anybody else in their practice. The problem is that the people who do get annoyed by these "specific" question threads about religion will not stop from being annoyed by others telling them to cool it. That is why a new board might be a good idea.

Anyway to the OP, I hope you're still reading on and that this has not put you off the DIS forum. I think this place is amazing and can be brilliant for opening new horizons in respect to Disney and all that is Disney. Hope you have a great trip too.

Rich

Actually I think I mean forum, not board. Board is all the forums put together, is that right? If so I mean forum. Sorry.