Any Canadians planning a fall 2021 trip?

[gskywalker]

5 of us will be fully vaccinated before we try to go in Sept but our son can't because of the stupid decision in Ontario to only allow kids who have turned 12 to get it. My son is already taller than an adult woman, turns 12 this year and in other provinces could get it. Hopefully it won't be a problem. We are just really hoping the land border opens up so we don't have to deal with headaches of testing etc. for flights. We prefer to fly but won't if we have to get tests. We have until the end of July to decide to cancel(30 days before our check in). I am not confident we will know by then.

 

[hdrolfe]

5 of us will be fully vaccinated before we try to go in Sept but our son can't because of the stupid decision in Ontario to only allow kids who have turned 12 to get it. My son is already taller than an adult woman, turns 12 this year and in other provinces could get it. Hopefully it won't be a problem. We are just really hoping the land border opens up so we don't have to deal with headaches of testing etc. for flights. We prefer to fly but won't if we have to get tests. We have until the end of July to decide to cancel(30 days before our check in). I am not confident we will know by then.

I am there with you on this. My son is turning 12 this year. The problem I have is that there seem to be some areas in Ontario that are giving it to kids who are not quite 12 yet. My son is also tall for his age (I'm still a few inches taller! But he's catching up quick).

 

[gskywalker]

I am there with you on this. My son is turning 12 this year. The problem I have is that there seem to be some areas in Ontario that are giving it to kids who are not quite 12 yet. My son is also tall for his age (I'm still a few inches taller! But he's catching up quick).

I'm scared how big he is going to end up. At his age I was 4 '7' and I am 6 '1'. He is 5 '6', hasn't started the change yet and is still that tall.

 

[hdrolfe]

I'm scared how big he is going to end up. At his age I was 4 '7' and I am 6 '1'. He is 5 '6', hasn't started the change yet and is still that tall.

My son is only 5'2" now, he'll be 12 in December, every month he asks if he has grown and we have to check. I can't believe he is growing an inch some months, my parents have really noticed since they don't get to see him very often this past year. And he also not started the change yet. He keeps asking about that though... he's excited to know he'll grow even faster. He wants to be a basketball player.

 

[Mikey15]

but our son can't because of the stupid decision in Ontario to only allow kids who have turned 12 to get it.

That's got nothing to do with Ontario. Pfizer submitted for Health Canada (& FDA) approval for 12-17 and ran clinical trials proving the safety and efficacy. Moderna has also run a 12-17 trial and I believe has FDA approval (but not yet Health Canada).

Clinical trials exist for 5-11, 2-4, and 6mo-2, but they're not complete yet.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04816643

 

[quandrea]

That's got nothing to do with Ontario. Pfizer submitted for Health Canada (& FDA) approval for 12-17 and ran clinical trials proving the safety and efficacy. Moderna has also run a 12-17 trial and I believe has FDA approval (but not yet Health Canada).

Clinical trials exist for 5-11, 2-4, and 6mo-2, but they're not complete yet.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04816643

Other provinces and even some public health units in Ontario are vaccinating all children turning twelve in 2009. There is no consistency on this issue in Ontario nor across Canada.

 

[bcwife76]

Other provinces and even some public health units in Ontario are vaccinating all children turning twelve in 2009. There is no consistency on this issue in Ontario nor across Canada.

Yep. BC is giving it to any child that turns 12 this year, ANY child born in 2009 or earlier.

 

[quandrea]

Yep. BC is giving it to any child that turns 12 this year, ANY child born in 2009 or earlier.

Hence the extreme frustration of many parents of kids born in 2009.

 

[bcwife76]

Hence the extreme frustration of many parents of kids born in 2009.

Absolutely!

 

[LauraLap]

I just can't believe my kids (teens) are booked to be fully vaxxed, both doses, in a few weeks . Meanwhile, my mother won't be able to schedule hers for a couple more weeks even though she got her first vax 2.5 months earlier. Why are they prioritizing teens over seniors in Ontario? It's very, very odd.

 

[hdrolfe]

I just can't believe my kids (teens) are booked to be fully vaxxed, both doses, in a few weeks . Meanwhile, my mother won't be able to schedule hers for a couple more weeks even though she got her first vax 2.5 months earlier. Why are they prioritizing teens over seniors in Ontario? It's very, very odd.

Doesn't make a lot of sense but I think they are trying to get the kids done before school restarts in the fall, so it can be "normal". They should have been giving second doses to seniors in a timely manner though, hopefully they can at least make appointments soon, moving them up to sooner. I think 80+ is able to now and 70+ is next week? something like that.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I just can't believe my kids (teens) are booked to be fully vaxxed, both doses, in a few weeks . Meanwhile, my mother won't be able to schedule hers for a couple more weeks even though she got her first vax 2.5 months earlier. Why are they prioritizing teens over seniors in Ontario? It's very, very odd.

It is very odd I agree. Almost as if they want to increase the numbers of total % population vaccinated because they are unlikely to reach it with just willing adults.
I agree with above it’s so schools will be safe come fall but will they? Only 12 and up can get it so at best it’s secondary schools that will have a certain % vaccinated, and grades 7-8 on the elementary level.
My friend’s 13 yo will also have both doses by mid July where my friend’s high risk, post stroke father in his late 70s doesn’t have a second dose appt yet. Doesn’t seem right.

 

[TammyLynn33]

It is very odd I agree. Almost as if they want to increase the numbers of total % population vaccinated because they are unlikely to reach it with just willing adults.
I agree with above it’s so schools will be safe come fall but will they? Only 12 and up can get it so at best it’s secondary schools that will have a certain % vaccinated, and grades 7-8 on the elementary level.
My friend’s 13 yo will also have both doses by mid July where my friend’s high risk, post stroke father in his late 70s doesn’t have a second dose appt yet. Doesn’t seem right.

I feel like it’s to control the spread . Look around your neighbourhoods there are way more 13 yr olds out socializing and not keeping distance than 70 year olds . If we keep community spread down it’s healthier/safer for all of us .
They also may already have an appt booked but if 80s can book and get second vax now, I’m sure 70s will be doing so before July and your friends 13 yr old gets her second ..

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I feel like it’s to control the spread . Look around your neighbourhoods there are way more 13 yr olds out socializing and not keeping distance than 70 year olds . If we keep community spread down it’s healthier/safer for all of us .
They also may already have an appt booked but if 80s can book and get second vax now, I’m sure 70s will be doing so before July and your friends 13 yr old gets her second ..

I’m sure it is to control the spread. Many doctors have said however to fully vaccinate adults first ... not just 70 plus but people in their 30-50s working and socializing. It just happens to be an example of my friend’s 70 yo father and 13 yo son but my friend herself (in her 40s) is also not getting the second dose before her son. Maybe adults age 70+ are not socializing but the younger adults certainly are.
Anyway I hope that they will speed up the rollout for the second doses, right now it appears slow but I think it will pick up soon.
Edited to add: I am 39 this year I wonder when my second dose might actually be, right now it’s scheduled Sep 18.
If I knew it would help with the trip planning but patiently waiting...

 

[TammyLynn33]

I’m sure it is to control the spread. Many doctors have said however to fully vaccinate adults first ... not just 70 plus but people in their 30-50s working and socializing. It just happens to be an example of my friend’s 70 yo father and 13 yo son but my friend herself (in her 40s) is also not getting the second dose before her son. Maybe adults age 70+ are not socializing but the younger adults certainly are.
Anyway I hope that they will speed up the rollout for the second doses, right now it appears slow but I think it will pick up soon.
Edited to add: I am 39 this year I wonder when my second dose might actually be, right now it’s scheduled Sep 18.
If I knew it would help with the trip planning but patiently waiting...

I would imagine everyone’s will get moved up. I think as annoying and as frusturating as it is to all we all just need patience. I feel the frustration as it’s so so fluid . DD15 also a severe asthmatic got hers first possible day at a clinic for high risk kiddos and her friends that are getting done now are getting July appts while hers is mid sept . I called just to see what I had to do they said hang tight it will change.
it’s absolutely stressful all the not knowing . Everyone deserves to be safe

 

[smisale]

Fingers crossed Dec-18-24 . One shot in the arm will have the second before i leave
Split stay AKL-SSR

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

My son is only 5'2" now, he'll be 12 in December, every month he asks if he has grown and we have to check. I can't believe he is growing an inch some months, my parents have really noticed since they don't get to see him very often this past year. And he also not started the change yet. He keeps asking about that though... he's excited to know he'll grow even faster. He wants to be a basketball player.

I’m sure at 5’2 and not quite 12 he’s not short for his age. My kid is 5’4 and he’s in the 98th percentile or higher so 5’2 is not short, probably a little above average actually.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I read on WDW Magic that they will be announcing the Christmas stuff in July on the Blog. Apparently they like to have a "Christmas in July" blog post.

I'm thinking tickets would go on sale at the end of July/early August.

 

[Juventus]

I posted this in the Land Border Opening Thread, but the thread does not show up for me. Strange. Anyways, a quote from our Windsor mayor:

Dilkens said the need for second doses is also important because it’s becoming increasingly clear the U.S./Canada border will reopen in some form around June 22, and getting across will be much easier for people with two doses.

https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/tunnel-board-approves-shutdown-for-mid-tunnel-vaccine-clinic

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I posted this in the Land Border Opening Thread, but the thread does not show up for me. Strange. Anyways, a quote from our Windsor mayor:

Dilkens said the need for second doses is also important because it’s becoming increasingly clear the U.S./Canada border will reopen in some form around June 22, and getting across will be much easier for people with two doses.

https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/tunnel-board-approves-shutdown-for-mid-tunnel-vaccine-clinic

Thanks for posting!
I wonder if this wait list is open to Canadians outside the Windsor area. We live a couple of hours away from the border there and would be willing to take a drive to receive our second dose early!
Amazing your mayor is advocating for your city and Canadians! It’s great in my opinion.