Another Reason Bush Must Go....

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Um....maybe you should be just as upset with the trial lawyers that helped the shutdown the other vaccine makers. Thanks to them, we only have one (in the US).

So *this* is where the hsyteria was created about the shortage that possible claimed the life of a 79 year old woman yesterday.

Isn't there already liability protections under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program? I believe that program was passed to protect vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits. Or it may just be limited to childhood immunizations, but I thought it covered all vaccines.

 

[bsnyder]

I don't believe it covers the flu vaccine. But I'm not positive.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by Bobbles
Couldn't have anything to do with a Republican controlled Congress in the 90's?

When things go well it's due to the Republican-controlled Congress and when things didn't it was Clinton's fault. Interesting.

It's was Congress' fault then but it's the Presidents' fault now?

 

[KarenC]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Um....maybe you should be just as upset with the trial lawyers that helped the shutdown the other vaccine makers. Thanks to them, we only have one (in the US).

So *this* is where the hsyteria was created about the shortage that possible claimed the life of a 79 year old woman yesterday.

There is legislation awaiting Bush's signature that would protect flu vaccine makers from liability for bad vaccines. He hasn't signed it yet.

And makers of childhood vaccines have been protected from liability lawsuits for several years.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

Lets just see who gets elected on Nov.2nd. All these look and see what he did ads are getting real old. My concerns are the economy and our nations security. Like a previous post said way to much is expected from the President that he has little control of. If the economy is bad its the Presidents fault, if healthcare is bad its the Presidents fault,if there is a shortage of flu vaccines it's the Presidents fault. I'm so sick of hearing it over and over. Such high expectations for Kerry that I think people are going to be real let down if he were to get elected. We were so unprepared for this downturn from all we experienced that its like we will take anyone in the hopes of restoring what we had in the 90's. That time is gone. 9-11 came and so went economic prosperity and this countries saftey. I don't blame this on the President. Considering what we went through I think we came out not to bad. We are slowly pulling ourselves out. People want what they want when they want it. Thats a lesson I think we should be learning from the past. We are going to have to go through rough times to get to a better place. That can't happen overnight. No promise Kerry or for that matter Bush can make will come true just because they say it. We are responsible for our own destiny. I think we rely way to much on the government to make everything better. Thats not going to put money in our pockets. Getting out and advancing ourselves will get us someplace. Waiting to see what the government is going to do for me is going to keep me waiting along time. All I can say is good luck to both sides. May the best man win. The best for me is Bush. Thats do in large part to the security of this nation.

 

[izzy]

Originally posted by TnKrBeLlA012
Lets just see who gets elected on Nov.2nd. All these look and see what he did ads are getting real old. My concerns are the economy and our nations security. Like a previous post said way to much is expected from the President that he has little control of. If the economy is bad its the Presidents fault, if healthcare is bad its the Presidents fault,if there is a shortage of flu vaccines it's the Presidents fault. I'm so sick of hearing it over and over. Such high expectations for Kerry that I think people are going to be real let down if he were to get elected. We were so unprepared for this downturn from all we experienced that its like we will take anyone in the hopes of restoring what we had in the 90's. That time is gone. 9-11 came and so went economic prosperity and this countries saftey. I don't blame this on the President. Considering what we went through I think we came out not to bad. We are slowly pulling ourselves out. People want what they want when they want it. Thats a lesson I think we should be learning from the past. We are going to have to go through rough times to get to a better place. That can't happen overnight. No promise Kerry or for that matter Bush can make will come true just because they say it. We are responsible for our own destiny. I think we rely way to much on the government to make everything better. Thats not going to put money in our pockets. Getting out and advancing ourselves will get us someplace. Waiting to see what the government is going to do for me is going to keep me waiting along time. All I can say is good luck to both sides. May the best man win. The best for me is Bush. Thats do in large part to the security of this nation.

Amen and hallelujah!!! I couldn't have said this better myself!

This blame game is getting really old!

 

[Hercules10]

Monday, Oct. 18, 2004 7:46 p.m. EDT
NewsMax.com


New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is blasting the Bush administration for the flu vaccine shortage, despite her own role in causing the crisis with her health care reforms in the 1990s.

"They're more interested in tax cuts for the rich than for flu shots for everyone who needs them," Clinton railed Monday afternoon at a press conference at New York's Ryan/Chelsea-Clinton Community Health Center.

"This administration has their priorities wrong," she added. "And we've really paid a big price for their negligence."
But according to the Wall Street Journal, though Hillarycare as a whole crashed and burned in 1994, the former first lady was able to change the laws governing the manufacture of vaccines.

And the results have been disastrous.

During last fall's flu vaccine shortage, the Journal noted:

"The reason for today's shortage - as well as seven previous preventive vaccine shortages since 2000 - is that there are just five vaccine makers. This lack of suppliers is partly thanks to Hillary Clinton, who as first lady turned government into the majority buyer of vaccines and pushed prices so low as to make business unsustainable."

In July 2003 the Journal noted that the problem goes back to 1993, when Mrs. Clinton's "Vaccines for Children Program" was first implemented.

The vaccine crusade was being pushed at the time by Mrs. Clinton's Children's Defense Fund mentor Marian Wright Edelman - even though U.S. child vaccination rates in the early 1990s were considered relatively high by medical experts.

But that didn't stop Sen. Clinton and her "reformers." She pressured Congress to back her plan in a bid to make vaccines more available to poor, uninsured and underinsured children. In the process she turned the government into the major purchaser and distributor of vaccines.

Not only did Sen. Clinton's reform fail to result in any noticeable increase in childhood vaccination rates, it managed to drive down financial incentives for private companies to develop and produce vaccines.

A year after the Journal's report on Sen. Clinton's crusade, the number of manufactures producing flu vaccine has declined to just two.

 

[LoraJ]

newsmax.com is the national enquirer for republicans.

 

[Hercules10]

Originally posted by LoraJ
newsmax.com is the national enquirer for republicans.

There are quotes in there from the WSJ.

In case you missed the first one:
During last fall's flu vaccine shortage, the Journal noted:

"The reason for today's shortage - as well as seven previous preventive vaccine shortages since 2000 - is that there are just five vaccine makers. This lack of suppliers is partly thanks to Hillary Clinton, who as first lady turned government into the majority buyer of vaccines and pushed prices so low as to make business unsustainable."

 

[LoraJ]

I searched the WSJ and they do not have any articles matching that quote.

 

[mikeymars]

Originally posted by LoraJ
I searched the WSJ and they do not have any articles matching that quote.

The article was published inthe WSJ on 12/09/03, and made excellent points about how the trial lawyers (as usual) are responsible for driving manufacturers out of businesses. Here is the relevant excerpt:

"The reason for today's shortage -- as well as seven previous preventive vaccine shortages since 2000 -- is that there are just five vaccine makers. This lack of suppliers is partly thanks to Hillary Clinton, who as first lady turned government into the majority buyer of vaccines and pushed prices so low as to make business unsustainable. (This price-control approach, we'd note, is what Democrats would now like to inflict on the new Medicare drug program.)

But just as worrying to manufacturers is an explosion of class action lawsuits. Vaccine makers are supposed to be protected from suits by 1986 legislation, but tort lawyers have found loopholes and filed more than 200 cases. The Republican leadership fixed this by including a liability provision in the Homeland Security legislation of a year ago. That is, until Ms. Snowe, Ms. Collins and Mr. Chafee objected to its "dark of the night" insertion and forced Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist into repealing it.

In return for their victory, the Senators promised an open debate on broad liability reform within six months. That would have been ... June. But the Senate canceled a markup on a reform bill in April and the Senators have gone quiet. Apparently, making sound vaccine policy isn't as politically rewarding as preening before the media by standing up to "special interests" (vaccine makers). So what's your solution for the flu-shot shortage, Senators?"

 

[Hercules10]

Originally posted by LoraJ
I searched the WSJ and they do not have any articles matching that quote.

It's there. Hope I got this link right. You have to be a subscriber.

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB10709334579624100,00.html?mod=topic

It's also quoted in the Washington Times.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20031210-120855-1153r.htm