American Idol, Season 5 **Official Discussion Thread** Part 2

MeanLaureen said:
Okay, I was subjected to Kellie twice because Obi-Wan worked the late shift tonight and popped the tape in to watch.

Here's the thing, and I'm embarrassed to admit it. I think I know the cause of Kellie lasting as long as she has, and I think I might be responsible.

You see, we have this cage full of cockatiels. We started out with 2 pet birds that got the hots for each other and now we have 8 babies ranging from 2-4 months old... it's that darn cockatiel math yaknow. I don't have to tell you that when you have that many cockatiels together in a cage you are going to have chatter.

Anyhow.. cue the Pickle and the birds stop letting out even as much as a peep. They hang on the side of the cage watching her with their heads cocked in some strange fashion.

They have found their leader.

And with that hairdo she was sporting tonight, I think they expected her crest to pop up at any moment.

Oh, and Reilly... hid his head in my hands during the second round of the Pickle.
:rotfl2: :rotfl: :rotfl2: I almost spit out my coffee! that is the funniest thing. You must put a cover over the bird's cage when she sings her exit song tonight. Don't need to tramatize them anymore!
 
I didn't think anyone was nearly as bad as the judges thought.

I really think the pimping of albums and choice of genres is not making it easy for any of the idols to have their shining moment.

And, that producer/writer David makes Simon look like a cute puppy dog. Wow - is he brutally honest!


Top Two last night for me:
Elliott - I think his best. He really felt the song.
Chris - loved it when he was singing on the floor. :rotfl2:

Taylor - starts out rough until he finds his Taylor groove then that "charisma" comes through.

Katharine and Paris - oversang
Kellie - undersang

Top three - all of the guys
Bottom three - all of the girls

Who's going home - Paris, I think
 
The Somewhat Disappointing Six

I wanted a repeat of last week’s fabulous performances but got a mixed bag instead. I also think I should get out more. I had no idea Andrea Bocelli was blind. What a wonderful insight this gives him on music! He only hears what is there and is not distracted by the contestants movements or appearance. And WOW, guest stars that actually critiqued the contestants. Well, for what it’s worth, here’s my take on the top six.

Katharine: Singing I Have Nothing, I felt this was one of her best vocals. It became apparent that Randy and even Paula should have taken their Happy Pills before the show as they came down hard on her for trying to do a Whitney classic. Kat is not one of my favorites (in keeping with that… terrible dress, emotions about as deep as a puddle) but I certainly thought she did justice to the song.
I gave her an 8.

Elliott: This seldom heard song, A Song for You, was a bit hard to get into. Now I know Paula grabbed the downers as she blubbered her emotional salute to Elliott’s beautiful vocals. His stage presence just gets better every week and I thought he looked smashing.
A better song with that kind of delivery would have earned him off the scale marks but, as it was, he gets a 9.

Kellie: I sort of felt like any of these kids could have a bad week after Kellie’s butchering last Tuesday. Now I just feel like it’s time for her to go. Her performance last night was downright painful although, because of the boredom factor, I think I fell asleep and missed half of it. Pitchy, nah, she was downright out of tune.
Absolutely horrible, she gets a 4.

Paris: When are this people ever going to learn it’s a bad idea to sing songs too closely identified with very famous singers??! Umm, The Way We Were, gee... it must be Barbra. So I copped an attitude even before Paris sang and after hearing it my attitude was even more negative. Even she didn’t look comfortable up on stage last night. So why did you pick the stupid song??!!! Because she was in tune and she did try hard and she did look like a new contestant – AGAIN, I gave her an 8.

Taylor: Picking one of my favorite songs, Taylor came out totally subdued. Was it perfect, heck no but it was passionate and, unlike some, I enjoy the softer, calmer side of Taylor.
Disagreed with the Judges, disagreed with the DH, I was deeply moved and almost pulled a Paula. Taylor got a 10 from me.

Chris: Oh my, singing Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman was the perfect song choice for the rocker man. When Chris stops screaming and starts singing it’s only then that I can see him winning it all. Unfortunately, I must be in the minority as that’s what he did last week and it got him in the bottom 3. I can’t believe that will happen this week. Amazing performance, soulful and passionate, Chris gets a 10.

Who I voted for from most to the least.

Taylor – Got thru 5 times
Elliott – Got thru once
Chris – Couldn’t get thru at all!


Who I think will be in the Bottom 2. Don’t they go to the bottom 2 this week?
Paris
Kellie

Who I think will go home.
Paris

Who I want to go home.
Kellie

As always, JMHO!
 

I personally thought Katharine & Chris were the best. Totally disagreed with the judges regarding Katharine. We sent lots of votes there way - had 2 phones going!

Also voted for Paris a few times & one my DD's likes Kellie so we sent a few votes her way. I do believe the competition has gotten too big for her though at this point. Although I believe she'll make it somewhere doing something. DH keeps saying we'll see her on The OC next year! :rotfl:

Not a fan of Taylor & while I think Elliott has a nice voice & is a good singer, he just doesn't do it for me. I thought he was boring last night. JMO!
 
Virgo10 said:
The Somewhat Disappointing Six

I wanted a repeat of last week’s fabulous performances but got a mixed bag instead. I also think I should get out more. I had no idea Andrea Bocelli was blind. What a wonderful insight this gives him on music! He only hears what is there and is not distracted by the contestants movements or appearance. And WOW, guest stars that actually critiqued the contestants. Well, for what it’s worth, here’s my take on the top six.

Katharine: Singing I Have Nothing, I felt this was one of her best vocals. It became apparent that Randy and even Paula should have taken their Happy Pills before the show as they came down hard on her for trying to do a Whitney classic. Kat is not one of my favorites (in keeping with that… terrible dress, emotions about as deep as a puddle) but I certainly thought she did justice to the song.
I gave her an 8.

Elliott: This seldom heard song, A Song for You, was a bit hard to get into. Now I know Paula grabbed the downers as she blubbered her emotional salute to Elliott’s beautiful vocals. His stage presence just gets better every week and I thought he looked smashing.
A better song with that kind of delivery would have earned him off the scale marks but, as it was, he gets a 9.

Kellie: I sort of felt like any of these kids could have a bad week after Kellie’s butchering last Tuesday. Now I just feel like it’s time for her to go. Her performance last night was downright painful although, because of the boredom factor, I think I fell asleep and missed half of it. Pitchy, nah, she was downright out of tune.
Absolutely horrible, she gets a 4.

Paris: When are this people ever going to learn it’s a bad idea to sing songs too closely identified with very famous singers??! Umm, The Way We Were, gee... it must be Barbra. So I copped an attitude even before Paris sang and after hearing it my attitude was even more negative. Even she didn’t look comfortable up on stage last night. So why did you pick the stupid song??!!! Because she was in tune and she did try hard and she did look like a new contestant – AGAIN, I gave her an 8.

Taylor: Picking one of my favorite songs, Taylor came out totally subdued. Was it perfect, heck no but it was passionate and, unlike some, I enjoy the softer, calmer side of Taylor.
Disagreed with the Judges, disagreed with the DH, I was deeply moved and almost pulled a Paula. Taylor got a 10 from me.

Chris: Oh my, singing Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman was the perfect song choice for the rocker man. When Chris stops screaming and starts singing it’s only then that I can see him winning it all. Unfortunately, I must be in the minority as that’s what he did last week and it got him in the bottom 3. I can’t believe that will happen this week. Amazing performance, soulful and passionate, Chris gets a 10.

Who I voted for from most to the least.

Taylor – Got thru 5 times
Elliott – Got thru once
Chris – Couldn’t get thru at all!


Who I think will be in the Bottom 2. Don’t they go to the bottom 2 this week?
Paris
Kellie

Who I think will go home.
Paris

Who I want to go home.
Kellie

As always, JMHO!

It is so funny how people see different things. You saw passion in Taylor while I saw absolute deadpan and boredom. It sure goes to show you that when you really like a contestant or a song, your opinion of their performance is different.

Now I saw passion in Elliott where lots of others didn't. I also heard a performance completely in tune and on key where no one else was. Kat was very sharp and had a very weak lower register. Chris had his goat throat going although he was generally in tune and quite heartfelt. Paris had incredible phrasing and a rich deep lower register and for some reason I really like that song. Taylor and Kellie were both off key so many times I lost count. They were also very boring. Taylor needs to learn to do something with his hands other that his priest movements. Now that the performers are pretty much on an even ability level, I am finding myself a lot more picky.
 
While I like to see a local person do well last night Kellie was the worst of the night. :sad2: While she was singing she reminded me of Baby's sister singing in Dirty Dancing. :sad2:

I didn't really care for Paris last night either but she has a much better voice than Kellie. Katharine was just OK. There is still something about her that bothers me. She doesn't 'feel' the songs or something :confused3

I enjoyed all the guys last night especially Chris.
 
cheeringmom said:
:rotfl2: :rotfl: :rotfl2: I almost spit out my coffee! that is the funniest thing. You must put a cover over the bird's cage when she sings her exit song tonight. Don't need to tramatize them anymore!

:rotfl: They pretty quickly found their voice again after The Pickle left the stage. Actually their favorite "song" is the theme music from House. I have a chorus of those little buggers garbling along to it and they keep doing parts of it through the whole show. :rotfl:

Okay, some observations from last night - like 'em or leave 'em. ;)

Katharine - loved her hair, very CZJ! I read the dress was vintage however it was way too small on her (not that she's big, she definitely has a smokin' body!) You could even see panty lines - Stacy and Clinton would fall over dead. Poor Kat, she's always been the one that is the most fashion challenged through this show. The singing - meh. I wish these girls would stop tackling Whitney, Mariah and Christina. Not that I am by far a fan of any of them, but they all have powerhouse voices and odds are, you will come out looking like a pale comparision. It happens everytime someone attempts one of their songs and nobody ever learns. :confused3 And Ryan.... COLD COLD dis on Katharine saying that "people that had their volume turned down tonight will vote for her" WTH was with that?

Elliott - my hometown boy pulled it out for me tonight! Anyone notice he looked like a little Ryan Seacrest Mini Me? They were wearing the same color suit and tie. :rotfl2: Only, why they heck was Elliott's tie so daggone wide? He wins for the most improved by far both looks and stage presense. While it still looks like he's nervous on stage, he seems to be getting more "personality" up there

Kellie - Damn woman, my birds are in love with you and your big lump of hair on the top of your head! Unchained Melody - oh no you didn't. And the night when everyone dresses up, what are you doing in skin tight jeans? Or were those your dress jeans. Okay, during the practice when David Foster criticized something she did, WTH was with her falling to her knees? Umm.. eww.. I'm just sayin'. Dissed by the blind man on the hair color! HEE!! Also, the high note that caused my birds to fall in love - anyone else think David Foster was laughing his butt off last night over that? Awhhuuuhhhhh NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUHHHHUUDDDDDDDD yooooowwwwwuuuuuurrrreeeeee luuuuuuwwwwwvvvvvvv! :badpc: And anytime you get dissed by all three judges.. ALL THREE - INCLUDING PAULA - and you can hear crickets chirp in the audience because nobody boo's them? Pack your bag pickle and take one last dip in the cement pond.

Paris - Okay, normally Paris looks like a female Gary Coleman to me but last night with those clothes and that do, she looked like Oprah. The kid is 17, not 71, right? Why the heck doesn't she ever sing something that was at least released during her lifetime? I know that they call some young people "old souls" but omg, you don't have to ACT like you are 17 going on 50! Is it just me or does she sound like she sings with her nose stuffed up all the time? Any why dis Kat for taking on Whitney and not say anything to Paris about taking on Barbra?

Taylor - my man :) Okay, the suit jacket would have worked if they did not put that downlight right over top of you highlighting the satin piping and causing it to appear as a different color on the jacket. Dude, it made you look like Captain Kangaroo. But still loved him. You know, Taylor just does better when he can show his charisma <tm David Foster> and that's hard to do in a love song/ballad. It's the opposite for Elliott - he shines in ballads and bores in faster songs. Hmm.. Elliott and Taylor could join forces and be the next Simon and Garfunkle. Anyway, I know that TPTB have royally ticked Taylor off over the past couple of weeks and I wonder if that is what is showing in his performance (for those that haven't read the stories - Taylor was really offended by the "are you drunk" comment Simon gave him Queen night and he was also very ticked last wednesday about how Nigel put him on the spot and made him do what he did about chosing sides with no warning - just told him over the commercial break, and the contestants have no choice but to follow stage direction)

Chris - Welcome to your diaphram buddy! That helped the "goat" sound we were getting when he was singing from his throat - big improvement! Loved the part where they made him lay down to sing. HEE! Also wondered what David Foster was saying in his little clip about Chris that got cut off. He said that Chris was a good singer <cut> and you can read his lips saying "BUT"..lol Could Chris have been pimped ANY MORE last night? Talk about damage control from last weeks' bottom 3 episode! :rotfl2: 2 guitarist? Check! Creative editing? Check! Pimp slot for performing? Check! Screams of praises from judges? Check! I'm not dissing Chris - he's in my top favorites after Taylor, it was just so blatant that it was borderline hilarious! One gripe about the performance, dude, you need some emotion in your eyes when you sing. You sing about loving a woman with a death stare. Huge disconnection! Plus your head is still tilted over to the left when you sing. I'm just sayin'.
 
lillygator said:
does anyone else think that Paris sounds like she is holding her nose when she sinds?

Read my blurb about her above you. I was asking if anyone else thinks she sounds like she sings with a stuffed up nose. :rotfl:
 
Paris - Okay, normally Paris looks like a female Gary Coleman to me but last night with those clothes and that do, she looked like Oprah. The kid is 17, not 71, right? Why the heck doesn't she ever sing something that was at least released during her lifetime? I know that they call some young people "old souls" but omg, you don't have to ACT like you are 17 going on 50! Is it just me or does she sound like she sings with her nose stuffed up all the time? Any why dis Kat for taking on Whitney and not say anything to Paris about taking on Barbra?


In my post last night I really said the same thing originally but in much nastier terms, so I edited it because I sounded really mean.


But I'm sorry...Barbra is harder to sing than Whitney and they trash Katharine (who I thought sounded good) and liked Paris??? :confused3 Paris was no where even close to Barbra with that song. PLUS, she smiled through half of it...Paris...The Way We Were..hint...NOT a happy song..watch the movie, it is sad. (The end sets me to crying every single time I watch it) She took my favorite singer, one of my favorite songs and just yucked it up big time.
 
MeanLaureen said:
:rotfl: Taylor - my man :) Okay, the suit jacket would have worked if they did not put that downlight right over top of you highlighting the satin piping and causing it to appear as a different color on the jacket. Dude, it made you look like Captain Kangaroo.

Chris - Welcome to your diaphram buddy! That helped the "goat" sound we were getting when he was singing from his throat - big improvement! Loved the part where they made him lay down to sing. HEE! Also wondered what David Foster was saying in his little clip about Chris that got cut off. He said that Chris was a good singer <cut> and you can read his lips saying "BUT"..lol Could Chris have been pimped ANY MORE last night? Talk about damage control from last weeks' bottom 3 episode! :rotfl2: 2 guitarist? Check! Creative editing? Check! Pimp slot for performing? Check! Screams of praises from judges? Check! I'm not dissing Chris - he's in my top favorites after Taylor, it was just so blatant that it was borderline hilarious! One gripe about the performance, dude, you need some emotion in your eyes when you sing. You sing about loving a woman with a death stare. Huge disconnection! Plus your head is still tilted over to the left when you sing. I'm just sayin'.

hahahah that is exactley who Taylor looks like -Captain Kangaroo!! hahahahha

and Yes, I did see the "but" comment from David Foster. Wonder what he was gonna say?....and I do believe the producers were playing favorites with the guitars on stage etc. Chris is good enough w/o all the "extra's" the producers thinks he needs to take this show.
 
cheeringmom said:
hahahah that is exactley who Taylor looks like -Captain Kangaroo!! hahahahha

and Yes, I did see the "but" comment from David Foster. Wonder what he was gonna say?....and I do believe the producers were playing favorites with the guitars on stage etc. Chris is good enough w/o all the "extra's" the producers thinks he needs to take this show.

They could have cut out the stupid flame background. That is nothing but annoying. They could have shown clips of Katharine's cleavage or something.
 
Nancy said:
In my post last night I really said the same thing originally but in much nastier terms, so I edited it because I sounded really mean.


But I'm sorry...Barbra is harder to sing than Whitney and they trash Katharine (who I thought sounded good) and liked Paris??? :confused3 Paris was no where even close to Barbra with that song. PLUS, she smiled through half of it...Paris...The Way We Were..hint...NOT a happy song..watch the movie, it is sad. (The end sets me to crying every single time I watch it) She took my favorite singer, one of my favorite songs and just yucked it up big time.

You know, the only thing the judges consistantly are is inconsistant!

Whitney is too big for Kat but Barbra isn't too big for Paris

So and So didn't step out of their box but Chris stays true to his comfort zone (from previous episodes)

Elliott should have done the song just like the original (per Randy) but Taylor didn't make his song "his own" and it was too Karaoke and too much like the original

PICK an opinion and STICK with it people!
 
damo said:
They could have cut out the stupid flame background. That is nothing but annoying. They could have shown clips of Katharine's cleavage or something.

:lmao: That and the split second wardrobe malfunction!
 
MeanLaureen said:
Okay, I was subjected to Kellie twice because Obi-Wan worked the late shift tonight and popped the tape in to watch.

Here's the thing, and I'm embarrassed to admit it. I think I know the cause of Kellie lasting as long as she has, and I think I might be responsible.

You see, we have this cage full of cockatiels. We started out with 2 pet birds that got the hots for each other and now we have 8 babies ranging from 2-4 months old... it's that darn cockatiel math yaknow. I don't have to tell you that when you have that many cockatiels together in a cage you are going to have chatter.

Anyhow.. cue the Pickle and the birds stop letting out even as much as a peep. They hang on the side of the cage watching her with their heads cocked in some strange fashion.

They have found their leader.

And with that hairdo she was sporting tonight, I think they expected her crest to pop up at any moment.

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
 
My order of best to worst

Chris
Elliott
Katherine
Paris
Taylor
Kellie

I'm going with Paris being sent home since she done the bottom three too many times to escape this time. I think she's better than Kellie, but I don't see her pulling it off this week. Hopefully it will be Kellie's turn next week.
 
Well let's hope that America makes the right choice. I think that the judges are just blowing hot air. And Paula probably didn't like Katharine because she had more cleavage then her last night! :lol:
 
MeanLaureen said:
You know, the only thing the judges consistantly are is inconsistant!

Whitney is too big for Kat but Barbra isn't too big for Paris

So and So didn't step out of their box but Chris stays true to his comfort zone (from previous episodes)

Elliott should have done the song just like the original (per Randy) but Taylor didn't make his song "his own" and it was too Karaoke and too much like the original

PICK an opinion and STICK with it people!

I interpreted that they were talking about power. Katharine doesn't have near the power in her lower register that in really needed in that song where Paris has so much power that it is hard to pull it in.
 
SC Minnie said:
:sad2: While she was singing she reminded me of Baby's sister singing in Dirty Dancing. :sad2:


I told DH the EXACT same thing after her performance!!!!!!!!!!!!
 












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