Am I getting old or is this horribly wrong?

[luvmy3]

Meh. I thought the first one with the little girls was adorable. The other two were from the same dance studio (Dolce Dance Studio) and the problem was more with the song selection than anything else.

I was just showing that what we may find inappropriate, those in charge of these dance shows do not. The dance the little girls were doing has some similiar moves as the one in the OP, and the outifts reveal just as much. The older girls were practically wearing nothing and come on Hanky Panky, you cant reference sex much easier than that ShowStopper either doesn't follow their guidlines or they don't feel this stuff is inappropriate for a show.

 

[Motherofboys]

Meh. I thought the first one with the little girls was adorable. The other two were from the same dance studio (Dolce Dance Studio) and the problem was more with the song selection than anything else.

I agree with you on the first one totally, didn't see any questionable dance moves that made it look near as bad as the "Single Ladies" video, and the outfits were cute.

The two others were a bit racier, the Leave your Hat on one did look stripper-esque to me...but still not as bad as the "Single Ladies"

And as soon as I showed my DH the "single ladies" video last night, his jaw dropped and he said "this looks like something you would see at a strip club, this video is totally inappropriate for kids under 18 to be watching, not to mention all of the pervs out there". And my DH is not what I would call conservative.

 

[luvmy3]

I agree with you on the first one totally, didn't see any questionable dance moves that made it look near as bad as the "Single Ladies" video, and the outfits were cute.

The two others were a bit racier, the Leave your Hat on one did look stripper-esque to me...but still not as bad as the "Single Ladies"

And as soon as I showed my DH the "single ladies" video last night, his jaw dropped and he said "this looks like something you would see at a strip club, this video is totally inappropriate for kids under 18 to be watching, not to mention all of the pervs out there". And my DH is not what I would call conservative.

They weren't posted as a direct comparison to the OP. They were posted to show that the guidlines a pp posted for this particular competition are not as black and white as they are written.

 

[Mermaid02]

It is extremely irritating to me that your implication throughout this thread is that people who have a problem with the dance and the costumes are closet pedophiles. What is up w/ that?

The dance and outfits were choreographed to be sexy. That fact is obvious to anyone with eyes and the slightest moral compass. Most people in this thread think that an overtly sexual performance by 9 year-olds is beyond icky. Should little girls be allowed to perform w/ the Pussycat Dolls? IDK, they would probably think it was lots of fun!! The fun factor should not be the only basis for how we decide what our children are doing.

ITA Also the implication that we are prudes for not approving of the dance and costumes.

We are not "Catty" or prudes... we are women/men who don't want to see little girls doing things or wearing things that are so inappropriate. The dance moves were suggestive to say the least and the costumes sleazy...... I can't even imagine anyone trying to defend it. It's very sad that some people think it's cute- it's just sick.

 

[luvsJack]

That is their guidelines for ALL dance styles - hip-hop, jazz, ballet, tap, modern, lyrical.

/so, then that quote was not saying whether they thought THIS routine was appropriate or not

I have to agree with you....the moves these girls were doing are not the only hip-hop moves. While my 13 year old does have 1 spot that they do a booty drop, they don't have their rear end pointed at the audiance, they are on an angle to the stage and it's boom-boom one time. If you blinked, you'd miss it. If you go back and look at these girls, they do the booty drop over 20 times.

I did not say that these were the only hip hop moves, I said that they ARE hip hop moves. All of the moves that are in the routine are normal hip hop moves.

 

[jen0610]

Meh. I thought the first one with the little girls was adorable. The other two were from the same dance studio (Dolce Dance Studio) and the problem was more with the song selection than anything else.

I don't have sound on this computer, so I can't comment on the music, but the first one of the little girls is from 2006. The 2nd one is from 2007 and the 3rd 2008. The rules I copied is from the 2010 entry form. I know that with the popularity of hip-hop, it became nessecary for the competitions to put these types of rules in, because of the stupidity of some of the studios and what they were doing with their dances.

The little girls - I didn't see any booty drops be done. Nor did I see any of them making the facial expressions like those that the girls in the origianl video were doing. This is pretty much standard for a JAZZ routine at a competition.

For the other two, while there are a couple of points I may question the move, at the 2:26 and 2:45 mark in the 2nd dance - it doesn't offend as it was a quick 1 position move that is not repeated over and over and over again by 7 or 9 year old girls. The 3rd dance, I didn't see anything that would be considered out of the norm for a JAZZ routine. And for both, the costumes are age appropriate for the girls.

 

[punkin]

I was just showing that what we may find inappropriate, those in charge of these dance shows do not. The dance the little girls were doing has some similiar moves as the one in the OP, and the outifts reveal just as much. The older girls were practically wearing nothing and come on Hanky Panky, you cant reference sex much easier than that ShowStopper either doesn't follow their guidlines or they don't feel this stuff is inappropriate for a show.

Like everything else it is a matter of personal opinion and I am not trying to change anyone's opinion here. I mostly object to the vilification of these girls, their parents, and teachers.

The puritanical world view that MY OPINION is the only one that matters and furthermore if you have a different opinion then you are a pedophile, a bad parent, or some combination of the two, and I have the right to impose MY OPINION on you is completely abhorrent to me.

 

[cheermom1]

My first reaction when I saw that clip was shock! I had my mouth open and was just staring like I can't believe someone thought that was a good idea for those girls at that age!! But I have to admit they are a talent bunch of little girls!

My dd has been in cheer and dance all her life and this would NOT fly with any of the instructors she has ever had. Of course the girls try to get away with things like that but we and the coaches remind them about appropriateness which is a good lesson for them.

WOW just WOW!!!

 

[binny]

totally innapropriate. The outfits, the style of dance... for the age there is no way those talented girls should have been doing that dance.

They are very talented but have very poor guidance IMHO.

 

[luvmy3]

I don't have sound on this computer, so I can't comment on the music, but the first one of the little girls is from 2006. The 2nd one is from 2007 and the 3rd 2008. The rules I copied is from the 2010 entry form. I know that with the popularity of hip-hop, it became nessecary for the competitions to put these types of rules in, because of the stupidity of some of the studios and what they were doing with their dances.

The little girls - I didn't see any booty drops be done. Nor did I see any of them making the facial expressions like those that the girls in the origianl video were doing. This is pretty much standard for a JAZZ routine at a competition.

For the other two, while there are a couple of points I may question the move, at the 2:26 and 2:45 mark in the 2nd dance - it doesn't offend as it was a quick 1 position move that is not repeated over and over and over again by 7 or 9 year old girls. The 3rd dance, I didn't see anything that would be considered out of the norm for a JAZZ routine. And for both, the costumes are age appropriate for the girls.

That may be so however according to the guidlines that were posted, any choreography or costuming using sex as a theme would be inappropriate. I think that the one titled "Hanky Panky" (the song is Hanky Panky and you don't need sound to know what thats about) would definitely be inappropriate for this competition according to those guidlines.
The others were there to show that the revealing nature of the costume in the OP is normal for these types of competitions and not deemed inappropriate. If so then the ones I posted wouldn't have been allowed at that competition, no matter the age group of the dancer since as you said those are general guidelines. I realize you said it was from 2010, but I'm guessing those weren't any different a few years ago. Why would it suddenly not be okay to do certain Hip Hop moves because of the percieved sexual reference now, yet be able to do dress in a bra and panties and do a whole dance routine to a song about sex just a few years ago Does teh Hip Hop routines really make things that mush more inappropriate? They may have gotten tougher, but I bet most of those guidelines have been in place for awhile.




These guidelines are:
“Choreography, costuming, and/or the use of dance themes such as rape, suicide, murder, sex, domestic violence, anorexia, and dark undertones chosen and/or presented to competition audiences with a lack of “artistic discretion” is considered inappropriate. The FDC appreciates the art form,
creativity and desire to heighten world awareness of these themes through dance but deem it inappropriate to present them to audiences that include children of every age. We recognize that this is extremely subjective and sensitive. Therefore, each competition will individually address these
performances as they surface at each particular event. An entry that is ultimately deemed inappropriate by an FDC competition will be adjudicated only. We urge all studio owners, teachers, and especially parents to keep performances thematically and choreographically appropriate.”

 

[Basil of Baker St]

Like everything else it is a matter of personal opinion and I am not trying to change anyone's opinion here. I mostly object to the vilification of these girls, their parent and teachers.

The puritanical world view that MY OPINION is the only one that matters and furthermore of you have a different opinion then you are a pedophile, a bad parent, or some combination of the two, and furthermore, I have the right to impose MY OPINION on you is completely abhorrent to me.

Stretching a bit, aren't we? No one has vilified the girls, they do not know that what they're doing is inappropriate. They were taught to dance this way by an adult, one whom they probably trust. They were encouraged and cheered on by their parents.

Due to the public outcry against this video, maybe less little girls will be shaking their "money-maker" on stage. Their dances may become a little less risque. Is this a bad thing?

 

[jen0610]

My daughter did dance when she was 4, it was really cute, they danced to "How much is that doggy in the window". She really liked it. We thought it was fun for her, until we say the spring show and the next year's group, the KINDERGARTNERS were dancing to bump and grind music. Um, no way, no how. That was the end of her dance career.

DD's 3rd year of tap - 5 years old - was to The wheels on the bus and their costumes looked like a shorter version of the dress that "Madeline" wears. They even wore little white gloves.

Forward to this year. At 13, in Jazz she is dancing, to of all things, the theme song to Fame. Whodda thought she's be dance to a song that mom danced to when she went to the same dance studio.

For their hip-hop dance, they are dancing to a remix of several different songs. One of the girls, just after it came out, asked it they could put a part of Ludacris How Low - mainly the part that goes Drop It, Hit It, Dump It, Split It, Don't Stop. Get It Get It! - in the remix. They were told a resounding NO!!!!!!

 

[jiminyC_fan]

We are not "Catty" or prudes... we are women/men who don't want to see little girls doing things or wearing things that are so inappropriate. The dance moves were suggestive to say the least and the costumes sleazy...... I can't even imagine anyone trying to defend it. It's very sad that some people think it's cute- it's just sick.

 

[punkin]

Stretching a bit, aren't we? No one has vilified the girls, they do not know that what they're doing is inappropriate. They were taught to dance this way by an adult, one whom they probably trust. They were encouraged and cheered on by their parents.

Due to the public outcry against this video, maybe less little girls will be shaking their "money-maker" on stage. Their dances may become a little less risque. Is this a bad thing?

Are we? No, I don't think so.

I suppose from your perspective imposing your version of morality on other people is not a bad thing. However, as a person who does not see anything particularly inappropriate in this video, I am offended by many of the posts in this thread.

 

[cheermom1]

DD's 3rd year of tap - 5 years old - was to The wheels on the bus and their costumes looked like a shorter version of the dress that "Madeline" wears. They even wore little white gloves.

Forward to this year. At 13, in Jazz she is dancing, to of all things, the theme song to Fame. Whodda thought she's be dance to a song that mom danced to when she went to the same dance studio.

For their hip-hop dance, they are dancing to a remix of several different songs. One of the girls, just after it came out, asked it they could put a part of Ludacris How Low - mainly the part that goes Drop It, Hit It, Dump It, Split It, Don't Stop. Get It Get It! - in the remix. They were told a resounding NO!!!!!!

Same here, of course the girls are going to TRY but it is up to the instructors and parents to tell them no and why. Why is it so hard to understand that adults in children's lives need to say NO????

 

[declansdad]

I didn't make the comment about reaching for money- but I bet a lot of men were thinking they hadn't seen moves like that since they were at the strip club or possibly on pay per view.

I never said you were the one to post it but you are the person who has chosen to defend it. And now you add to it by making another assumption about the men in the audience.

 

[Disneycrazy!!]

HOLY POO bear!! No way would my child wear that or dance like that. Yes those kids are talented BUT they need a different routine!!!
My 12 year old doesn't even wear a bikini because we feel it shows to much skin for old nasty men to see.

 

[dzorn]

They weren't posted as a direct comparison to the OP. They were posted to show that the guidlines a pp posted for this particular competition are not as black and white as they are written.

But just because they were preformed does not mean they were not penalized with the score. They may have been.

I also did not think any of them were as bad as the one in the OP

Denise in MI

 

[Mermaid02]

I never said you were the one to post it but you are the person who has chosen to defend it. And now you add to it by making another assumption about the men in the audience.

Look at the thread...... the VAST majority of people think this dance routine was trashy, and inappropriate...... I dont' think it's a stretch to think that there were those in the audience (although they may have been silent, or speechless) who felt the same. I bet there were MANY in the audience who were dumbfounded.

I doubt men were reaching for money- but I bet they were uncomfortable.

 

[luvsJack]

We can argue this until the cows come home and I really don't think anyone is going to change their views on this.

Some posters posted pictures of their girls in dance costumes. Really cute. But at least two were for ballet. Hard to hip hop in a dress-style costume.

There are different genres and each one require different type of outfits. Schools are going to be different in what they deem appropriate also.

The last school that dd attended did a broadway style show at the end of the year. Their costumes very much fit the song and routine. Some things seemed "revealing" at first look but once you actually saw it on the girls it was not actually revealing at all, it just gave an illusion of sorts. For instance those "short shorts" in one video, when paired with skin toned (but not see through) tights are really not revealing at all. One of dd's costumes looked like a really short, short skirt (colors hot pink and black) but it had shorts underneath and again with the tights, she was very well covered. (the skin toned tights cannot really be seen from the audience).

If you do not wish for your child to dance in this way, then make darn sure you know what the dance school you want your child to attend is doing and look at pictures from past recitals and competitions to get an idea on costumes. Oh, and double check those cheer routines too because some will certainly include these same moves.

Personally, to me they are talented little girls dancing to a popular song. That is all it is.

Others want to see it as something evil, so be it.

We all have make the choices for our own children and our own lives.

I will say that I think some of the comments that have been made here against these little girls are totally inappropriate as was the comment about the men in the audience. MUCH more inappropriate than anything these children were doing.