Almost kicked off FLIGHT! Please help

I know that wasn't your point, I was just wondering because I've driven long distances and know that when I need to stop, going another 10 hours is never an option. I could maybe get another 1 or 2 hours, maybe, but even that wouldn't be that safe, so I can't imagine 10. I think I would have to pull into a well-lit public place, like a 24 hour grocery store or something, and nap in the car.

Yeah that would have been the smart thing for us to do. But I think we were so fired up by that time we just wanted to get out of there. Not to mention there are not to many areas in the Carolinas I want to pull over in. ( I love the Carolinas , just not the areas off the interstate)
 
Yeah that would have been the smart thing for us to do. But I think we were so fired up by that time we just wanted to get out of there. Not to mention there are not to many areas in the Carolinas I want to pull over in. ( I love the Carolinas , just not the areas off the interstate)

That's the place we usually drive though. It's such a dark, boring stretch of road at night. No, not many places to just pull off though either.
 
cinderella and you don't have to clairify anything with me I knew you weren't being negative. I was refering to this in my post though


"Since when are allergies considered a disability? "

I guess I should have clarified though lol
 
cinderella and you don't have to clairify anything with me I knew you weren't being negative. I was refering to this in my post though


"Since when are allergies considered a disability? "

I guess I should have clarified though lol

Oh Im sorry. I guess I was feeling a bit cornered on here ( not by you). Hope I didnt sound to snappy. Plus I have been sitting here trying to crunch numbers for a trip that has to be set in 100 % stone by Monday and am getting a bit stressed . :) I should get my butt of the boards and to bed. lol
 

A peanut sniffing dog. Tell me more.

I am feeling like I am taking over the Op's thread here. lol Hopefully she doesnt mind.

If you are really interested I can PM you some more info.

The dog can search a room on command ( i.e. a hotel room) and will tell you of they find something as little as residue on the bedding. If they smell something airborn they actually pull you away from that area ( I.e. if the cookie shop in the mall just baked PB cookies , or a nut cart roasting nuts is ahead), they can dial 911 ( no joke , they have a special button) , they can retrieve life saving medicine on command, get help , smell your plate of food when eating out to make sure there is no cross contamination and more.

They are trained the same way bomb and drug and search and rescue dogs are. They can detect something as trace as food sealed away in a cupboard in packaging.

For people who are so allergic that they are unable to even go out without worry this is a huge relief and a chance at a normal life experience again.

I heard the dogs they use for Epilepsy can also actually sense when the person is about to have a seizure and warn the person. Its amazing to me what these dogs can do.

The nut sniffing dogs are all legally trained just like the others and have papers and a vest just like the others as well.
 
I don't think the OP is coming back so I wouldn't worry about that. Do you have one?
 
We are in the process of recieving one. Should be with us in a few weeks. My son is really excited. They are going to train my son as well on how to give the dog commands . We recieve the dog as a puppy so the two of them can bond and then when the puppy is old enough he goes into formal training.

We will get to meet the guy that trains them in a few weeks and also they will have Golden retrievers with them that are in the training process so we will get a really neat gimpse into what the future will hold for our puppy.

The woman I am getting my dog from is amazing! Her daughter is actaully a epileptic who as a child was denied a dog multiple times because they said she was to young to care for one . Her mom actually went and purchased their own trainable dog and brought it to a trainer so she could have one herself. She decided when she grew up she would start her own non-profit org. that would allow any child that needed one to be able to have one. ( As long as you can care for the dog properly of course)

The owners of the organization is a huge Disney fan . She was saying she names all the dogs after Disney characters even. They also do gathering every year at Disney Land . They train all the dogs and owners how to manage the parks and also there is some kind of test you can take. ( cant remember what she meant about that)

No suprise of course but she said that Disney is really amazing with accomodating them. They even do special cleanings of all the rooms. I am so glad to hear how they are because our dog will see more Mickey Mouse than 20 average americans! lol

We will be taking our dog this winter and I have no idea how it will be! Like every trip a huge adventure I am sure. I was talking with a cast member and suprised to learn the dogs can ride most rides!!! I guess we will se how well that goes. :lmao:
 
We are in the process of recieving one. Should be with us in a few weeks. My son is really excited. They are going to train my son as well on how to give the dog commands . We recieve the dog as a puppy so the two of them can bond and then when the puppy is old enough he goes into formal training.

We will get to meet the guy that trains them in a few weeks and also they will have Golden retrievers with them that are in the training process so we will get a really neat gimpse into what the future will hold for our puppy.

The woman I am getting my dog from is amazing! Her daughter is actaully a epileptic who as a child was denied a dog multiple times because they said she was to young to care for one . Her mom actually went and purchased their own trainable dog and brought it to a trainer so she could have one herself. She decided when she grew up she would start her own non-profit org. that would allow any child that needed one to be able to have one. ( As long as you can care for the dog properly of course)

They even do gathering every year at Disney Land . They train all the dogs and owners how to manage the parks and also there is some kind of test you can take. ( cant remember what she meant about that)

No suprise of course but she said that Disney is really amazing with accomodating them. They even do special cleanings of all the rooms. And the chefs like always are really great. I am so glad to hear how they are because our dog will see more Mickey Mouse than 10 average americans! lol

We will be taking our dog this winter and I have no idea how it will be! Like everytrip a huge adventure I am sure. I was talking with a cast member and suprised to learn the dogs can ride most rides!!! I guess we will se how well that goes. :lmao:


So you are getting your service dog before it's trained? And you are taking it out such as one? Sorry, but I can't imagine any reputable trainer to give a dog out before its ready. It takes minimum a year to train a dog as such. To give it before hand and bring it back for training makes no sense. Can you elaborate on that. This seems very wrong to me. Hate to see you get scammed.
 
So you are getting your service dog before it's trained? And you are taking it out such as one? Sorry, but I can't imagine any reputable trainer to give a dog out before its ready. It takes minimum a year to train a dog as such. To give it before hand and bring it back for training makes no sense. Can you elaborate on that. This seems very wrong to me. Hate to see you get scammed.

I agree with phorsenuf. I have never heard of getting the puppy and then having to give it back. When my in-laws dog was being trained as a service dog, the training began right away and not months later. Not to mention that the trainers letting you take the puppy to WDW before it is trained.

Please make sure you are not getting scammed in this.
 
***reread it myself!!! hmm take care of yourself cinderella
 
We are in the process of recieving one. Should be with us in a few weeks. My son is really excited. They are going to train my son as well on how to give the dog commands . We recieve the dog as a puppy so the two of them can bond and then when the puppy is old enough he goes into formal training.

We will get to meet the guy that trains them in a few weeks and also they will have Golden retrievers with them that are in the training process so we will get a really neat gimpse into what the future will hold for our puppy.

The woman I am getting my dog from is amazing! Her daughter is actaully a epileptic who as a child was denied a dog multiple times because they said she was to young to care for one . Her mom actually went and purchased their own trainable dog and brought it to a trainer so she could have one herself. She decided when she grew up she would start her own non-profit org. that would allow any child that needed one to be able to have one. ( As long as you can care for the dog properly of course)

The owners of the organization is a huge Disney fan . She was saying she names all the dogs after Disney characters even. They also do gathering every year at Disney Land . They train all the dogs and owners how to manage the parks and also there is some kind of test you can take. ( cant remember what she meant about that)

No suprise of course but she said that Disney is really amazing with accomodating them. They even do special cleanings of all the rooms. I am so glad to hear how they are because our dog will see more Mickey Mouse than 20 average americans! lol

We will be taking our dog this winter and I have no idea how it will be! Like every trip a huge adventure I am sure. I was talking with a cast member and suprised to learn the dogs can ride most rides!!! I guess we will se how well that goes. :lmao:

So this is a way of labeling your child as disabled?:confused3
I really don't understand where this will stop. Can my nieces have dogs because they have asthma & food allergies? Me because I have food allergies & migraines? Folks that have had heart attacks should also be entitled because they are at high risk of another heart incident?
I guessing most people on line have either themselves or a loved one with diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, etc. Where do you draw the line?
I think this is a very slippery slope.
 
So this is a way of labeling your child as disabled?:confused3
I really don't understand where this will stop. Can my nieces have dogs because they have asthma & food allergies? Me because I have food allergies & migraines? Folks that have had heart attacks should also be entitled because they are at high risk of another heart incident?
I guessing most people on line have either themselves or a loved one with diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, etc. Where do you draw the line?
I think this is a very slippery slope.


Will your migrane kill you? High Blood pressure is a controllable situation so is diabetes ( which I have) .Not that they dont pose risks but they do allow the person to operate normally when under proper medical care. I could go on and on here. But I dont think you have the ability to grasp it all anyway nor the desire to.

If just breathing in a public space could kill you sure as heck have a situation on your hand. ( Not all nut/ peanut allergy sufferers are allergic to airborne particles , only the more severe ones- We are.)

Listen you live your life the way you want. I will do what I need to do for my family. I dont need people like you to police my choices.

YOUR situation is not the same as ours. Dont think you can make a accurate judgement of how "other" people should live. Because you just dont have that ability or right.

I dont regret sharing anything on here but I guess its a reminder than when you do you open yourself up to this kind of garbage. I will leave my post up for a day or two then take them all off here just because for the most part its not been to constructive a discussion.

And who said I labeled my child as disabled? You might think I am but I dont honestly care what you "think" . I only care about what I know. After my next post I wont even check back in here. If anyone wants to ask me anything they can PM me.
 
Will your migrane kill you? High Blood pressure is a controllable situation so is diabetes ( which I have) .Not that they dont pose risks but they do allow the person to operate normally when under proper medical care. I could go on and on here. But I dont think you have the ability to grasp it all anyway nor the desire to.

If just breathing in a public space could kill you sure as heck have a situation on your hand. ( Not all nut/ peanut allergy sufferers are allergic to airborne particles , only the more severe ones- We are.)

Listen you live your life the way you want. I will do what I need to do for my family. I dont need people like you to police my choices.

YOUR situation is not the same as ours. Dont think you can make a accurate judgement of how "other" people should live. Because you just dont have that ability or right.

I dont regret sharing anything on here but I guess its a reminder than when you do you open yourself up to this kind of garbage. I will leave my post up for a day or two then take them all off here just because for the most part its not been to constructive a discussion.

And who said I labeled my child as disabled? You might think I am but I dont honestly care what you "think" . I only care about what I know. After my next post I wont even check back in here. If anyone wants to ask me anything they can PM me.


Just curious but does you child wear a mask when he goes out? I would think if someone was so sensitive to airborne that that would be a great precaution.

So about the dog. How is that going to work out at somewhere so crowded like Disney. I would imagine there are peanut smells everywhere. And how is that handled in restaurants?
 
So you are getting your service dog before it's trained? And you are taking it out such as one? Sorry, but I can't imagine any reputable trainer to give a dog out before its ready. It takes minimum a year to train a dog as such. To give it before hand and bring it back for training makes no sense. Can you elaborate on that. This seems very wrong to me. Hate to see you get scammed.

Monster Kitty and Phorsenuf

Well I wont be carting it all over as one no.He will be to little to much of anything but potty train when we get him. We had the choice to take on a already trained dog but we were also given the option to take one in as a baby and be allowed to raise it and allow it to bond with my son.

We will be training with the people who gave us the dog from time to time. Once the dog is a year old we can either bring him with us to see them ( they are in another state) or they can come here to us. We pay no extra for any travel expenses.

I will ask them again about how long they say their training lasts. You are right that it wouldnt make much sense to do some small training here and then have to go through another year of training with them there. I know she said they do travel here if we need them to ( free of charge) but I definatly want to confirm that. Thanks for bringing up a good point! I will write them a email and look into it.

Ginna - Thanks

Phorsenuf- We eat at resturants that dont prepare any nut based Dishes . Meaning that places like Kona are out for us totally.
A mask is a good idea but we havent enforced one as of yet. Contrary to what another poster thinks I dont want my son to be seen as disabled and try to let him just feel like a normal kid. But of course to avoid wearing a mask we have to put a lot of planning into where we will and wont go ahead of time. My son has thrown his shirt up over his nose before when he smelled something cooking at a store and panicked.It wasnt anything but pretzels but I understand why he worries. He had some bad reactions and he remembers and it scares him and thats why I know this dog will allow him to feel confident and independent.

BTW - one thing we do is when at Disney for example we map a route around the nut carts. Brenda at WDW tells us where to go and gave us a idea of what times they roast nuts. I dont tell the kids we have to do anything special . I just do it. The idea is to make everything seem just like its normal everyday life. I can explain more to him as he gets older but for now I dont want him to feel like his allergy is his identity or anything. So I just incorporate basic plans into everyday life. Some people might see the dog as that but to my son its just a best friend.

My official last post. I dont feel so great when I come here. Think I will stick to the trip planning sections. If anyone wants to talk to me pm me. Thanks to all of you that were understanding.
 
Monster Kitty and Phorsenuf

Well I wont be carting it all over as one no.He will be to little to much of anything but potty train when we get him. We had the choice to take on a already trained dog but we were also given the option to take one in as a baby and be allowed to raise it and allow it to bond with my son.

We will be training with the people who gave us the dog from time to time. Once the dog is a year old we can either bring him with us to see them ( they are in another state) or they can come here to us. We pay no extra for any travel expenses.

I will ask them again about how long they say their training lasts. You are right that it wouldnt make much sense to do some small training here and then have to go through another year of training with them there. I know she said they do travel here if we need them to ( free of charge) but I definatly want to confirm that. Thanks for bringing up a good point! I will write them a email and look into it.

Ginna - Thanks

They don't start training them until they are a year old! If you are serious about getting one of these dogs I would strongly suggest looking into another facility. It takes a whole lot more than a visit here and there to train a dog for such. When they do come out after that year then what? Will they stay with you for the months and months it will take to train them?

Seems real odd to me. Also what purpose would it serve to take the dog to WDW before it is properly trained. It certainly can't be used as a service dog if its not trained. Very peculiar.
 
We had the choice to take on a already trained dog but we were also given the option to take one in as a baby and be allowed to raise it and allow it to bond with my son.
The problem that I see with getting a puppy and not a fully trained dog is I believe that the dropout rate for service dogs is pretty high. I found a reference that it's as high as 50%. While organizations know what breeds are better than others for certain tasks, they cannot know if an individual dog will be suitable until they start to train it. For instance, standard poodles are supposed to be smart and my dog's father was trained for agility. My dog is as dumb as a rock.

The mere fact that they would send a puppy home with you to be trained later is a red flag to me. I admit that I don't know a lot about service dogs. Perhaps you can run this situation by the folks on the DISability board as some have more experience with service animals. Something doesn't seem right here. Any good service dog will bond with your son. You don't need to have the dog from puppyhood.
 
The problem that I see with getting a puppy and not a fully trained dog is I believe that the dropout rate for service dogs is pretty high. I found a reference that it's as high as 50%. While organizations know what breeds are better than others for certain tasks, they cannot know if an individual dog will be suitable until they start to train it. For instance, standard poodles are supposed to be smart and my dog's father was trained for agility. My dog is as dumb as a rock.

The mere fact that they would send a puppy home with you to be trained later is a red flag to me. I admit that I don't know a lot about service dogs. Perhaps you can run this situation by the folks on the DISability board as some have more experience with service animals. Something doesn't seem right here. Any good service dog will bond with your son. You don't need to have the dog from puppyhood.

I completely agree with this. As a kid, our neighbors raised Seeing Eye puppies and nearly half of the puppies they were assigned did not go on to become service dogs. Some were a little to skittish, some to playful, etc. So to take on a service dog from puppyhood is a huge risk because that dog may not qualify to become a service dog when he's 1yo. And then your child has bonded with an animal that you either have as a pet, which is fine, but then you have lost out on the service dog for at least a year, or you have to give him up for adoption. Not to mention, if you got a service dog who is actuallya service dog now, you wouldn't need to wait the year for the dog to take the test, then train for months.
 
I said I wouldnt come back.. lol But I had to respond.

You guys are all so right. I emailed the woman to see if maybe I had misunderstood her or what the situation was. They could be very unorthodox but I didnt think they were scamming me.

At any rate there is not way I will take in a untrained puppy now. Thanks for making a good point! I am going to look at this more carefully now.

I will post again to let you all know how it turned out... Unless it gets bad in here again.

BTW my mom would have kept the puppy with her for the most part at the house down there. But that seems like a mute point now.
 
They don't start training them until they are a year old! If you are serious about getting one of these dogs I would strongly suggest looking into another facility. It takes a whole lot more than a visit here and there to train a dog for such. When they do come out after that year then what? Will they stay with you for the months and months it will take to train them?

Seems real odd to me. Also what purpose would it serve to take the dog to WDW before it is properly trained. It certainly can't be used as a service dog if its not trained. Very peculiar.

Service dogs are trained prior to placement. This a a very questionable situation IMHO. Either the breeder is clueless or people that use this breeder are unclear on what a puppy can do:confused3
For a mother to think a mask makes a child a target but not a service dog is odd.
I'm wondering what doctor signed off as this child being disabled. How they convinced the state they live in that a dog is needed for their son.
I hope I'm not paying for it with my taxes.
Interesting about how "free air travel" has become a part of this conversation.

What about the families with kids that have severe asthma attacks from dog dander.....is the family of the "WDW dog" going to pay to fumigate a room the next family goes into?
Should nuts be not allowed on WDW property? Talk about policing.
 












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