Alcohol in Magic Kingdom

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There's enough overstimulation going on at the Magic Kingdom without open boozing in the mix. Plenty of that going on in the less crowded and frenetic parks for everybody to have a good time.
 
If you can't make it through a day at Disney World without alcohol then you have a very serious problem. It is called alcoholism.
Thank you very much for the diagnosis! I was wondering what my problem was! :guilty:

You know, it IS entirely possible to have a glass (or two) of beer or wine and not be drunk and stumbling across the park. If I am having a nice dinner on vacation, I prefer to have a glass of wine. But, I do not consider myself an alcoholic. :)
 

You are in denial

No, I have spent the last almost 7 years pregnant and breastfeeding back to back so unable to drink.
I think it sounds like you are particularly sensitive given your history.
Really thinking it is reasonable for someone to want some beer or wine with dinner and it is a giant leap to think that makes them an alcoholic.

There is also alcohol served at DCA and I have never encountered a drunk person there.
I think the issue is as others have mentioned Disney have unintentionally created a game of drinking around the world at Epcot
 
You are in denial.


Have I ever known an alcoholic? Well for starters both my parents are dead alcoholics. I have several living relatives who are alcoholics who might as well be dead. It is a horrible disease and the first thing it does is warp your mind to convince you that you don't have a problem. If alcohol is that important to you that you can't make it though the day then you definitely have a problem. Prepare yourself for a miserable old age and a horrible death.
You're essentially berating people that you (likely falsely) believe to have what you acknowledge is a disease? Would you say the bolded line to someone with cancer? Terrible.
 
And no one is saying you cannot, there areany,Amy places to habe what ever.you wish. However the MK is a specail park.The US MK parks have always been dry and there is.not.resin to change now. WALT always said they should be dry.

That said, I am not going to start this debate again as I know others feel different. Any thing we say is meaningless and Disney will do as they wish , as they systematically destroy the Disney Magic.


AKK

No:
"When Walt Disney first designed the Magic Kingdom, he made it clear that alcohol was not to be sold. The concept for the park was to be “family oriented” with children and their parents enjoying time together. Much unlike what happens at some carnivals, state fairs, or non-Disney theme parks, an adult member of the family would not hand out tickets and allow the kids to adventure on their own while he went to the bar or beer stand."
Ignoring the kids to ride alone so the adults can stand at a bar is a far cry fro dad having a beer with dinner while you all eat together.
Actually parents showing how they drink responsibly is good role modelling for their children as they get older.

Then head over to BOG for dinner, your resort, WS or DTD and by all means have that drink!! I didn't say no one should drink at all. My post was about people feeling the need to smuggle it into the MK. I don't think it's necessary when there are other options.

I think this would be more of a sign of an alcoholic "Hey I would like a glass of wine, instead of just having a glass here where I am eating dinner I will need to leave the park, catch a monorail to go to a bar"
 
No:
"When Walt Disney first designed the Magic Kingdom, he made it clear that alcohol was not to be sold. The concept for the park was to be “family oriented” with children and their parents enjoying time together. Much unlike what happens at some carnivals, state fairs, or non-Disney theme parks, an adult member of the family would not hand out tickets and allow the kids to adventure on their own while he went to the bar or beer stand."
Ignoring the kids to ride alone so the adults can stand at a bar is a far cry fro dad having a beer with dinner while you all eat together.
Actually parents showing how they drink responsibly is good role modelling for their children as they get older.



I think this would be more of a sign of an alcoholic "Hey I would like a glass of wine, instead of just having a glass here where I am eating dinner I will need to leave the park, catch a monorail to go to a bar"


As I said there is no reason to drink at the MK......you can get all you want in a hundred places. My feelings are simple as Walt wanted a dry MK'S I feel we should honor that.

If you wish to trainer your children to drink responsibly I applaud that and suggest you do it at one of the many other places in WDW.
 
I can't wait to buy my wine in "France" and pick it up on my way out the gates. This time I made sure to put WINE KEY on my packing list :)
 
I can't wait to buy my wine in "France" and pick it up on my way out the gates. This time I made sure to put WINE KEY on my packing list :)
LOL, I forgot my wine bottle opener on our spring break trip and had to buy the mickey head bottle cork/opener that I already have. Oh well, can't have enough!!
 
Prepare yourself for a miserable old age and a horrible death.

How miserable can it be if you have plenty of booze and all of the moral scolds with their "all drinkers are alcoholics in denial" nonsense have long since cut you out of their lives so you don't have to listen to them anymore?

Walt didn't want alcohol in the MK until a sponsor told him they wanted alcohol and he said okay. It might be confined to the private club in DL but even he wasn't going to pass on a revenue source.

At the risk of stating the obvious, Walt is dead and has been for almost 50 years. Even if his frozen corpse was removed from POTC and thawed out, he would barely recognize America today after half a century of head-spinning social, cultural, and technological change. What Walt would think about alcohol in the MK today is both unknowable and irrelevant.
 
I can completely get wanting to have a drink with dinner at the restaurants at MK (I did rather enjoy my glass of wine at BOG) or engaging in a little (responsible) drinking around the world in the evening but I saw lots of people necking beer at HS for example when it was boiling hot and I'm just thinking "hello! Alcohol dehydrates you, that is not going to help!"
 
And, probably a stupid question, but can you take a cool bag with a can of beer into the park?

This was the OP's very simple question. I'm assuming that where she lives you CAN do that, and it's not seeing as "smuggling". She is asking a question. She had the answer. There's no need to accuse her of smuggling, or wanting to smuggle.



If you can't make it through a day at Disney World without alcohol then you have a very serious problem. It is called alcoholism.

I'm not sure that's the definition of it.

From the Mayo Clinic:

"a pattern of alcohol use that involves problems controlling your drinking, being preoccupied with alcohol, continuing to use alcohol even when it causes problems, having to drink more to get the same effect, or having withdrawal symptoms when you rapidly decrease or stop drinking."

Being preoccupied is just one sign. And it doesn't state that being preoccupied ONLY happens when you're alcoholic. It's just like some people are preoccupied with food and yet don't have an eating disorder or weight problems. Some people just LOVE food. And some people just LOVE alchohol.

I feel that it's pretty rude to dismiss alcoholism's seriousness by randomly diagnosing it on the internet.


The US MK parks have always been dry and there is.not.resin to change now. WALT always said they should be dry.

Except it isn't.


as they systematically destroy the Disney Magic.

There are other things Disney is doing that's destroying itself. At least being able to have a Fin du Monde with your potato leek soup makes what they are doing and changing a little more palatable...


You are in denial.

Ugh. By your use of "denial", it would mean that a child who says they don't drink and aren't an alcoholic is absolutely an alcoholic. That someone who likes a glass of wine now and then, who denies that that means they have a problem, is definitely an alcoholic.

Just because someone says there's no problem doesn't MEAN they have a problem. To think that's what it means is ridiculous.

I would imagine that YOU would say you don't have a problem. If so, you would diagnose yourself as being in denial, and therefore you are an alcoholic according to your rules.


Having grown up in that environment (so did I BTW and there is zero chance the alcoholic I grew up with ever would have made it to WDW in the first place), you should know that calling someone an alcoholic is not something that should be done lightly.

I agree!

My dad was an alcoholic and will deny it to this day. He just randomly stopped drinking one morning after getting home and literally running his wife's car into the garage. The SIDE of the garage. 30 years later started drinking lightly again. He seems to have it under control. But what we've all (those who were there before) learned is that he's a jerk with or without the booze. The booze just let him forget what he had done.

I worry about my brother a whole lot. Two brothers, actually; the one most like me is thoroughly brainwashed and believes our dad that he didn't have a problem. He wasn't around yet, when our dad was still drinking, so he never saw it. And he refuses to believe people other than our dad who were actually there for it. I worry about both of them, because their behaviors make me wonder.

Despite a STRONG family background on both sides of alcoholism and having to be very careful, I'm still VERY wary of diagnosing my brothers. It's far too serious, to randomly diagnose.


Not one single person on this thread said they couldn't make it through the day at MK without alcohol....no one.

I agree!

Just because you have witness people who are addicted to alcohol does not mean that every single person who enjoys a drink on vacation is an alcoholic.

Exactly.

One guy was so wasted he was actually yelling at my two year old in her stroller.

What was he yelling?


When I finally have children I want to be able to take them to MK without worrying about bumping into drunk people.

You do get that anyone can go directly from Epcot, Trader Sam's, their room, etc, after drinking, and go into MK? That just not having booze everywhere in MK doesn't insulate you from the possibility?


Im still stymied how anyone enjoys beer/wine/liquor. It all tastes (and smells) awful to me.

I'm sure you like some things that other people dislike.


The problem with that is who is Disney to determine what your tolerance is? I am a gal that booze hits pretty hard so 2-3 for me and I am done (saves me some $$$), but my sister on the other hand can do 10+

So true.

But hey, at least you can bring 2 bottles and be able to grab more at various ports. Wine adventures!

Rotten for those who don't like wine.

Rotten for those who won't drink the beer onboard but liked being able to bring craft beer; can't bring it because craft breweries tend to bottle in 22oz bottles, not the 12oz bottles that is allowed.

Rotten for those who don't drink wine or beer but do like a mixed drink.

Rotten for those who like wine and/or beer, can bring their drink of choice on, but are on long sea itineraries with NO possibility of stopping off in the middle of the Atlantic to get another couple bottles of wine...


Actually parents showing how they drink responsibly is good role modelling for their children as they get older.

Agreed.


My feelings are simple as Walt wanted a dry MK'S I feel we should honor that.

Walt smoked throughout the parks, didn't he? And didn't he have quite a reputation for drinking? We sure we want to go with EVERYTHING that he wanted?
 
I don't want alcohol to be served at MK. Not because Walt would or wouldn't want it these days. Not because everyone who wants a drink at MK is an alcoholic. It's just my own preference that I want to preserve the current culture, feel, look of MK. Do I have a few beers at WS? Yes. Do I love Trader Sams? Yes. Very simply, you can drink anywhere else you want at WDW, somehow I just like the innocence of no alcohol at MK.
 


What was he yelling?


You do get that anyone can go directly from Epcot, Trader Sam's, their room, etc, after drinking, and go into MK? That just not having booze everywhere in MK doesn't insulate you from the possibility?

Her name was embroidered on a backpack I was carrying. He kept screaming her name and leering at me. I think he thought it was my name. One of his less inebriated friends told him he thought it was probably the child's name. Then he starts screaming "wake up (insert name of my child". Over and over and over again. Needless to say we no longer carry anything with her name on it.

Yeah, I completely understand that you can get obliterated and then go to magic kingdom. Still doesn't change the fact that in ten trips the only park I've ever encountered drunk morons is Epcot, and we predominantly spend our time at MK. I don't care what anyone says, no need to serve booze at Magic Kingdom.
 
Rotten for those who don't like wine.

Rotten for those who won't drink the beer onboard but liked being able to bring craft beer; can't bring it because craft breweries tend to bottle in 22oz bottles, not the 12oz bottles that is allowed.

Rotten for those who don't drink wine or beer but do like a mixed drink.

Rotten for those who like wine and/or beer, can bring their drink of choice on, but are on long sea itineraries with NO possibility of stopping off in the middle of the Atlantic to get another couple bottles of wine...
To each their own of course. I mean, it's not ideal, but there's always a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. :)
 
You are in denial.


Have I ever known an alcoholic? Well for starters both my parents are dead alcoholics. I have several living relatives who are alcoholics who might as well be dead. It is a horrible disease and the first thing it does is warp your mind to convince you that you don't have a problem. If alcohol is that important to you that you can't make it though the day then you definitely have a problem. Prepare yourself for a miserable old age and a horrible death.

You might need to talk to someone. Who has a license. To deal with people and their various issues.
 
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