Al Sharpton Strikes Again!

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It's the same majority that say GET OVER IT when slavery is being discussed. I wonder if Germans would tell haulocaut descendents to Get over it?

I wouldn't say Get over it about slavery because it was a terrible time in our history.

I also wouldn't tell holocaust survivors to get over, for the same reasons.

I would tell them that things that happened more than 50 years ago shouldn't still be being used as a crutch.

There are lessons to learn from history...if one chooses to learn them.
One's history can also become one's crutch...that is also one's own choosing.

And now, since this thread is a post or two away from getting locked because some folks have personalized attacks and made racially charged remarks, I'll step away and leave you to your discussion about the wonderful "Rev" Al. I hope whatever it is he does works for you.

Regards....
 
It's the same majority that say GET OVER IT when slavery is being discussed. I wonder if Germans would tell holocaust descendents to Get over it?


Sadly there is a large contingent of people that deny the holocaust even took place. So that one has its share of morons to defile its memory and historical impact as well.

In the end none of us can have it both ways. We can't say "dont' bring up that case that happened 20 years ago" and then bring up another event that happened over 150 years or more ago. There is no event in history that in my opinion cannot be used to illustrate the wrongs and rights of present day events. You also can't deny that wrongdoings occur with the police or anybody else and that when those things do happen, they don't always get justice. But that doens't mean that each case of the police shooting someone is a case about cops out to beat the crap out of anyone they want to.

There are no absolutes where Al Sharpton is concerned. You can think Al Sharpton has a right to voice his opinions, is wonderful or an idiot and that doesn't mean you are a racist, a cop hater or any other label someone might throw at you.
 
OMG you people are hilarious!!

Now I'm suppose to be disneyjunke!!!

Seriously the way some of you think of AFrican Americans is astounding. Al Sharpton aside, NO wonder some of us don't want to deal with some of you people.

Some of you act like we're suppose to tap dance to your tune. What next are we suppose to put on a blacker face and skip over a broom sayin yessah we bolieve what the master says. We gone think and feel like yah doo!!


Yes all of black disers want Al to change the minds of everyone one here:rolleyes:


Yup clearer and clearer. You have the same opinion of "white" people that Al does. Al is that YOU????

If you want to align yourself with a racist and a hypocrite have at it but don't get pissy when other people have a problem with Al/you and his/your warped way of thinking.
 

OMG you people are hilarious!!

Now I'm suppose to be disneyjunke!!!

Seriously the way some of you think of AFrican Americans is astounding. Al Sharpton aside, NO wonder some of us don't want to deal with some of you people.

Some of you act like we're suppose to tap dance to your tune. What next are we suppose to put on a blacker face and skip over a broom sayin yessah we bolieve what the master says. We gone think and feel like yah doo!!


Yes all of black disers want Al to change the minds of everyone one here:rolleyes:


WOW u are too much!!!!!!!
 
Because I'm entitled to speak my mind just as you are. People pass judgment all the time here. Not saying that's it's right, but I have to admit, I do judge people just as you do which is something I said I would never do.

You are NOT allowed to pass judgment unless you agree with the mob... don't you know that yet? :laughing:
 
I had no idea you were African American LohKee/disneyjunkie.
Actually, since your avatar is Asian, I thought you might be Asian.

Methinks I hit a nerve. Never said anyone should tap dance to anything...that's your reference my dear...and an interesting one at that! Talk about perpetuating a racial stereotype which no one else ever brought up.

And, BTW, how do you know what race I am????

Are you assuming.....????

You know what happens when people assume:lmao:
 
You are NOT allowed to pass judgment unless you agree with the mob... don't you know that yet? :laughing:




This has nothing to do with agreeing with mob. This person is so desperate to get her point across she posting as two different posters and actually responding to her other online name. If you go back and read her post you can see where she has made several hypocritical statements. She is the one who has resorted to name calling.
 
I know the story..and I know the area where this occured WELL.We have a business near by. It is the community that asked..and pleaded with police to do something about the crap hole after hours den of prostituion and drugs, that was effecting the quality of life in their neighborhood. It was an undercover investigation in which one of the detectives overheard one of the suspects reference "getting his gun" when he was speaking with another patron of this fine establishment. Sean Bell and his buddies were no angels. They weren't at Hooters for a bachelor party. They were in this crap hole hours before he was going to be married. Am I the only one that finds that a little strange? Granted, while not very admirable behavior, I would certainly agree that you don't deserve to die for being scummy. Only let's be clear on where and how it happened. You or I wouldn't walk the streets in the dead of night in this area. It's dangerous. These cops..one of whichi is Hispanic, the other African American, and the other white, shot at this car, after it repeatidly hit an undercover police car. Not once..but again and again. I might add that their Luietenant..who was in charge of the operation was not charged..because he was hiding while the shots were being fired. HE was in charge of this operation, but because he didn't fire his gun..he was not charged. Their were 50 shots fired. 50 shots DID NOT hit Sean Bell. Out of three officers 50 shots were fired. They feared for their lives. Now you may hear Mayor Mike and the Commish..who wants to run for mayor, say how they are trained to shoot and re-evaluate. THEY will NEVER face a situation like that these officers faced. They won't find themselves on the streets doing that job for that money. You bet those guys emptied their guns..because they wanted to go home that night to THIER kids. No cop wants to have to face the ramifications of having made a split second decision to use their gun and have the decision turned around and used against them as police brutality. This is WAY different than the Abner Louima case, where police brutality was horrendous. This was a situation where these men were "on the job"...doing what the community asked them to do. Doing THEIR jobs. THis was a situation in which they felt their lives were in danger. I believe that mistakes were made..and that procedures can and should be evaluated. Only it was not an intentional act to kill Sean Bell. I think you can see the look on the detectives face(who is also African American) who apologized to the Bell family. You can see the pain in that man's face, and hear the remorse in his voice. They stood before a judge..a judge who had no horse in this race. This judge has in the past sent police officers to jail. The prosecution presented witness after witness whose recollections and stories of the incident changed depending on who they talked to. They also have ulterior motives in regards to lawsuits against the city. They aren't in it for justice for Sean Bell, they're in this for the bucks they can get out of a law suit. It's all VERY sad. A young man who made an incredibly poor choice..is dead. Three police officers who were doing their job, are dragged through the mud. Their lives forever changed. The NYPD has more officers jumping ship..because they DON"T want the job any longer. These officers were hung out to dry by both their Commisiner and Mayor and portrayed as evil murderers by the media. Officers are watching this..and they are leaving. Did you know to be an officer for the NYPD you need to have an Associates degree...where as none of the surrounding boroughs require this. 90 percent of the applicants to the Port Authority academy were former NYPD..Why do you think that is. Qualified officers are leaving...they don't have the support of the people of NY or their superiors. All of the surrounding boroughs pay three times what NYPD pays. Who exactly is going to be doing this job? They had to give food stamps to the last graduating class, because they don't make enough to get through the academy. While Rev. Al is closing down the city...he should think of who the people of this city are going to call when they need help, and who exactly is going to show up. No one really qualified, is going to be sticking around.

auntie, this is an excellent post.

I think we should be supporting our police force, which makes split-second life and death decisions everyday. Not nailing them to the wall when something goes wrong. I find it hard to believe that these police officers were racially motivated in shooting Bell -- or were out to kill someone that night.

Was there any explanation as to why Bell and his friends repeatedly rammed the undercover officer's car with their car? I've heard that the witnesses on behalf of Bell repeatedly changed their stories throughout the investigation. Did they ever come up with anything conclusive?
 
You are NOT allowed to pass judgment unless you agree with the mob... don't you know that yet? :laughing:


Yes Robin you're so right! We must think the way they do or else we're the one's with the "problem" or better yet, we're another poster posting on the same thread...

Then again, the majority of us didn't think Obama threw his granny under the bus either. This being the case, I'll gladly be whatever you want me to be as long as I'm not like some:hippie:
 
Yes Robin you're so right! We must think the way they do or else we're the one's with the "problem" or better yet, we're another poster posting on the same thread...

Then again, the majority of us didn't think Obama threw his granny under the bus either. This being the case, I'll gladly be whatever you want me to be as long as I'm not like some:hippie:

I'm confused.

Are you in support of Al, Sean Bell or both? Or neither? Do you know anything about the incident outside of the papers? Are you familiar with the area of the city and the club?

I live in NYC and yes, by DBF goes to strip clubs here, but NONE like the one that Sean Bell visited that night.
 
Yes Robin you're so right! We must think the way they do or else we're the one's with the "problem" or better yet, we're another poster posting on the same thread...

Then again, the majority of us didn't think Obama threw his granny under the bus either. This being the case, I'll gladly be whatever you want me to be as long as I'm not like some:hippie:

Like comparing Charade to David Duke, oh thats right, no offence. it was just a snap judgement/impression. Most people I dont know I compare to the grand wizard of the KKK, just as a first impression
 
Yup clearer and clearer. You have the same opinion of "white" people that Al does. Al is that YOU????

If you want to align yourself with a racist and a hypocrite have at it but don't get pissy when other people have a problem with Al/you and his/your warped way of thinking.

Hey Lohkee, as a white chick I just want you to know that I know that you and Al don't have any problems with me based on my whiteness...

Yeah, Al's abrassive, but he's addressing inequalities in the criminal justice system that it seems like many whites are incapable of seeing. Injustices that white people seem to get really angry about having pointed out.
Geez, as a white person, I find this sort of embarrassing. :sad2:
I'm guessing that people are assuming Lohkee must be 2 different posters 'cause it's just too problamatic to acknowledge that there are lots of people who disagree with their little insular view of the world.
 
I havent heard of an Apology to the Duke LaCross players either....

That being said...Police Brutality is a real thing and something should be done about it, I agree. but the way Al Sharpton handles it is wrong. He is no MLK by any means. He stands no more for civil rights than the KKK does. Sharpton is about his own personal agenda. Blacks are not the only ones that have civil rights and I have yet to see him support a white person shot down by a black person and the black person getting aquitted for it...If he was really about civil rights he would support both sides but he is as racist as the KKK....were the cops wrong perhaps....were the cops right perhaps....Those of us that are not cops cannot pretend to imagine what they feel when there life is on the line day in and day out. I doubt a gang member of any color has a 2nd thought about shooting someone especially a police officer so why should we expect any more from a police officer.

I really dont know the story about this latest protest or the trial so I will not comment on that directly. Cops lay there lives on the line everyday for innocent people to live care free lives. It wasnt the cops that failed this person it was the judicial system and I assume a jury of peers. So dont fault the cops....I will more often than not side with cops because Al Sharpton is not coming to my house when someone breaks in is he....JMHO

:surfweb:Excellent thoughts......

IMHO this is only about his agenda. God Bless the NYPD that face danger every day!
 
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