Al Gore uses 20 TIMES as much electricity as you do

Really. I can't believe Charade only has a $75 bill with a 2000 sf house. I haven't seen that cheap a bill in 35 years and that was at my mom's 1000 sf house.

Our water bill is higher than that and we're surrounded by water.

Some people really do have to get out more. ;)
 
The point IS, that if Al Gore wants to preach about environmental awareness, he should not be living in such a huge house. He may be using a small amount of energy compared to other extremely rich people living in excessively large mansions, but perhaps people would take hus message more seriously if he used a small amount of energy compared to the average American.

Carbon off sets, indeed.

Like I said, enjoy the Drudge Report du jour.
 
Like I said, enjoy the Drudge Report du jour.

I don't understand your persistent skepticism about the report that Drudge cited. Are the facts about Gore's energy consumption incorrect in any way? :confused3
 

I know what you are saying about Gore. He is a consumer like everyone else. He is rich and needs security so of course he is not going to live in a shack.

The point of his message I think is that if everyone makes little changes it will add up.

Of course you can toss Warren Buffet on the fire here. He does practice what he preaches. I think he is the only one.:lmao:
 
As has been pointed out, the truth hurts. :)

Truth only hurts if you give a crap. I don't. Business is a little slow starting this year so I got lots of time on my hands for BB entertainment.

And regardless, if Al Gore lived on the moon, it doesn't mean he's dead wrong about global warming or the environment.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there really isn't someone following you.
 
Well I live in Florida, I have a nearly 2,000 sq. ft. house and my average bill is $90 (way less in the "winter" months and more in the "summer" months). I don't see what is so outrageous about Charade's bill. We take strides to reduce our electricity usage, more for our pocketbooks than the greater good, but still. :confused3

Al Gore says we are dooming the world, he could step up and cut back. iI don't think carbon offsets are the answer. Are trees going to produce more oil? Global warming is not our only concern.
 
I don't understand your persistent skepticism about the report that Drudge cited. Are the facts about Gore's energy consumption incorrect in any way? :confused3

What skepticism? I'll give you that Drudge is 100% right in his reporting. My point is enjoy the report because real life and real problems, other than the size of Al Gore's house, are going to come creeping in. Like, for example, a Taliban bombing in Afghanistan that targeted Cheney.

Think "smell the roses while you can".

Btw, you might've missed an edit on one of my previous posts. I really thought UserName started this thread.

Makes all the difference in the world. :lmao:
 
Truth only hurts if you give a crap. I don't.

And regardless, if Al Gore lived on the moon, it doesn't mean he's dead wrong about global warming or the environment.

Well I'm not sure he's either dead wrong or dead right. But, if he's going to talk the talk, he should walk the walk, which means not only cutting back to use a small amount compared to other excessively large mansions, but perhaps try not living in an excessively large mansion, like most of the rest of America.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there really isn't someone following you.


Always sound advice.
 
I just heard it was 25X more not, 20X, thats quite a bit of difference really.

Oh and by the way, the big hypocrisy here is why is he not using solar power like Clint EAstwood does. Its higher going in but it does work from what I hear if you have enough solar stuff. Seems he's too cheap to incorporate this technology. Definitely a HUGE hypocrite.
 
What skepticism? I'll give you that Drudge is 100% right in his reporting. My point is enjoy the report because real life and real problems, other than the size of Al Gore's house, are going to come creeping in. Like, for example, a Taliban bombing in Afghanistan that targeted Cheney.

Frankly, "Global Warming" IS a huge topic since so many people want us to change our way of life drastically. Al Gore might run for President again and the idea that he would legislate this new way of life is a very important topic, especially considering HIS way of life.

Most people can be concerned about more than one thing at a time.
 
He's not wrong about the environment. He's wrong when he tells the poor and middle class to turn down their heat, turn off their AC, turn off their lights, don't drive this kind of car and so on while he and his rich friends do whatever they want and purchase "offsets". That's where he's wrong.
 
I have no way of knowing whether the figures posted for AL Gore were correct or not as I suspect all who post here do not know either but it seems that the group who posted the figures had an agenda, is it just to point out hypocracy in all it's forms I doubt it. It would seem it is from a group with an agenda who want to discredit Al Gore and his current 'mission'.

Would it be good if he sold up and lived in a terraced house, well it would reduce his carbon useage, but he probably works at home currently as well and he is clearly rich and will inevitably produce more carbon

Is he a Hypocrite possibly but if he is acting to reduce his usage from a higher level then no. If he reduced his usage by 25% and we all did the same there would be great benefit but clearly some will always consume more goods and therefore will produce more carbon than others.

Why not the same critisism of Bono for his advocacy of the poor in Africa, urging debt relief and the giving of aid without giving up all his wealth other than that of the average person?
 
I have no way of knowing whether the figures posted for AL Gore were correct or not as I suspect all who post here do not know either but it seems that the group who posted the figures had an agenda, is it just to point out hypocracy in all it's forms I doubt it. It would seem it is from a group with an agenda who want to discredit Al Gore and his current 'mission'.

Would it be good if he sold up and lived in a terraced house, well it would reduce his carbon useage, but he probably works at home currently as well and he is clearly rich and will inevitably produce more carbon

Is he a Hypocrite possibly but if he is acting to reduce his usage from a higher level then no. If he reduced his usage by 25% and we all did the same there would be great benefit but clearly some will always consume more goods and therefore will produce more carbon than others.

Why not the same critisism of Bono for his advocacy of the poor in Africa, urging debt relief and the giving of aid without giving up all his wealth other than that of the average person?

Because Bono isn't a Democrat. Makes all the difference in the world. ;)
 
He's not wrong about the environment. He's wrong when he tells the poor and middle class to turn down their heat, turn off their AC, turn off their lights, don't drive this kind of car and so on while he and his rich friends do whatever they want and purchase "offsets". That's where he's wrong.

:thumbsup2
 
I can only assume that the figures are correct in reguards to Gores usage. And if they are, they aren't that bad. I believe and I could be wrong, but the average home has three bedrooms, his is 6 times that size. So as far as I can see he is actually doing pretty good for a home of that size.
 
I can only assume that the figures are correct in reguards to Gores usage. And if they are, they aren't that bad. I believe and I could be wrong, but the average home has three bedrooms, his is 6 times that size. So as far as I can see he is actually doing pretty good for a home of that size.

Its the level of hypocracy thats the issue. He's not just a small hypocrite but a HUGE one.

If I were a rich environmentalist activist like he is, I would totally make sure that I did everything in my power to utilize alternative energy and fuels etc. There is absolutely NO excuse for him to not power his mansions with solar power. The only reason he doesn't apparently, is because he is too cheap, and obviously doesn't really even care about the environment. Its just his schtick to raise money or do whatever it is he thinks he's doing.

I don't even believe in any significant man made global warming yet I am very active in developing an alternative fueled vehicle which would cause no carbon emissions and I"m a normal middle class average joe.

Al Gore raises millions as an "environmentalist" but doesn't even bother to use solar power, as far as I know doesn't own a single alternative fueled vehicle (which is a huge hypocritical issue with me) jet sets around the world owns large eternal combustion engine limos SUVs etc., and generally is just a lier and blow hard. He makes me sick.

Anybody that thinks this guy is legit should seriously re-examine your thinking because you are being played like a cheap fiddle.
 
Why not the same critisism of Bono for his advocacy of the poor in Africa, urging debt relief and the giving of aid without giving up all his wealth other than that of the average person?

I would, if Bono were asking people to make the kind of lifestyle changes that Gore is. If Bono said, "everyone should be giving 10% of their income to AIDS research and if they aren't they are selfish and ignorant" and his tax records show that he's not even giving 5%, then he would be in the same category. However, I haven't heard him do anything other than say, buy this Red stuff for your family and friends at the Holidays because it helps people with AIDS.
 















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