After hours - $149 for EMH?

[RaginforDisneyRoy]

So did anyone else notice that the Magic Kingdom closes every single night in June 2016 at 10pm? In 2015 there were 22 12am closings and 8 1am closings in June.

EMH Hours are gone. You're going to see the After Hours event in mass quantities.

 

[Nezumi Fan]

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[Nezumi Fan]

Ummm, if you are referring to the "sucker born every minute" quote, I am sure you know that P.T Barnum never said that.

A thing that is not technically accurate may nonetheless be true

 

[Nezumi Fan]

EMH Hours are gone. You're going to see the After Hours event in mass quantities.

I'm starting to agree with you. I wish I weren't.

 

[Nezumi Fan]

I'm willing to pay the inflated cost to stay onsite for some things, but if they tack on a resort fee to the already inflated room rate, and take away something like EMH, they've forced my hand.

I think the day I decided paying $500 a night for a room was reasonable was the same day I realized, if it were Disney, I'd pay for just about anything.

 

[Nezumi Fan]

I completely disagree that this won't affect EMH. I TOTALLY see Disney using this to differentiate their resorts and eliminate EMH.

For example, EMH is totally eliminated in favor of the extra mornings and evenings event ($69, $149). Now, Disney offers all Value guests 1 Free event per 3 day+ booking (chosen based on availability). All Mods get 2 Free events per 3 day+ booking (chosen based on availability). All Deluxes get unlimited free mornings OR evenings per 3 day+ booking (and total unlimited for 7 day+ bookings). Done - EMH is dead, resort guests are differentiated and now you can say the perk is HUGE in the hotel cost (and you can get hotel guests to commit to more than just weekends). Win/win for Disney - Lose/lose for guests.

Completely brilliant and completely evil, TwoMisfits. I can COMPLETELY see this as a possibility...and it makes me sad because, while I'm in a place in my life now that I can afford to stay in a deluxe (and thus enjoy those sweet, sweet EMHs), for most of my life, even a value would have been beyond me.

Judge me as you must, but the worse thing about flying coach, for me, isn't the coach seats so much as having to file past those smug-faced business dudes in first class. It's not the wider seats that justify that first-class price: it's that sweet, sweet schadenfreude.

 

[Nezumi Fan]

So did anyone else notice that the Magic Kingdom closes every single night in June 2016 at 10pm? In 2015 there were 22 12am closings and 8 1am closings in June.

I noticed, G-Mom. I use last visit's spreadsheet to plan for a new visit, and one of the things I track in my spreadsheets is park hours and EMHs. That late hours offered this May/June are fewer compared to last May/June is indisputable.

 

[RaginforDisneyRoy]

Completely brilliant and completely evil, TwoMisfits. I can COMPLETELY see this as a possibility...and it makes me sad because, while I'm in a place in my life now that I can afford to stay in a deluxe (and thus enjoy those sweet, sweet EMHs), for most of my life, even a value would have been beyond me.

Judge me as you must, but the worse thing about flying coach, for me, isn't the coach seats so much as having to file past those smug-faced business dudes in first class. It's not the wider seats that justify that first-class price: it's that sweet, sweet schadenfreude.

No, the worst thing about sitting in a coach seat is the coach seat.
-Smug-faced (apparently) business dude.

 

[DisDad4Life]

After thinking about this since they made the announcement I realize the hard ticket nights themselves won't affect my family as I'd never pay $150 per ticket for a few extra less-busy hours. However, what I am a bit concerned about is the impact it will have on scheduled EHM nights at MK. We usually stay for seven nights in WDW and typically there have been two EMH nights at MK and we'll usually hit at least one of them. This year we are going in late June and there is just one EMH scheduled for our week (hopefully that one stays!). I'm a little worried about how much busier the crowd will be on that one night when the park closes to regular guests at 10pm every other night. Guess we shall see.

 

[RaginforDisneyRoy]

After thinking about this since they made the announcement I realize the hard ticket nights themselves won't affect my family as I'd never pay $150 per ticket for a few extra less-busy hours. However, what I am a bit concerned about is the impact it will have on scheduled EHM nights at MK. We usually stay for seven nights in WDW and typically there have been two EMH nights at MK and we'll usually hit at least one of them. This year we are going in late June and there is just one EMH scheduled for our week (hopefully that one stays!). I'm a little worried about how much busier the crowd will be on that one night when the park closes to regular guests at 10pm every other night. Guess we shall see.

Say goodbye to EMH. They will be gone soon in favor of these events. Look at the hours for June. MK closes at 10 every night. Not one late night.

 

[DisDad4Life]

Say goodbye to EMH. They will be gone soon in favor of these events. Look at the hours for June. MK closes at 10 every night. Not one late night.

I'm not saying that's not a possibility but I don't believe they'll go quite to that extreme. If the late hours event proves successful I can see Disney extended them to multiple nights per week but I have to believe they'll keep one night per week as EMH for resort guests. This is one perk they continue to advertise for staying onsite. I really don't think we've seen the last of EMH, at least for the foreseeable future.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I didn't read this whole thread...

But If they now want to charge a huge fee for what used to be the "normal end of the day"...then you tell them to go to hell and leave the park.

It's really that simple...no "circumstances" change anything.

And you know why? Because only you can end these abusive policies...through rejection.

What's so hard to figure out here?

 

[Nezumi Fan]

Well Disneyland is also in the middle of a city and has numerous third party hotels outside of it. You also are paying for that magical express in your hotel price whether you use it or not.

Just so, and further, there are only three (three!) "on property" hotels: Paradise Pier, Disneyland Hotel, and Grand Californian. Even the cheapest hotel, Paradise Pier, goes for over $250 a night, and that's if you can get it. There's no such thing as a "value" at DLR. Plenty of offsite hotels, at all price points, but nothing onsite.

 

[Mrlogboy]

On topic question Kinda
On another form of somebody talking with me said that these new upcharges are the new norm similar to airlines and there is nothing we can really do about it so there is nothing we should be doing about it. which he meant we should all just except it and move on and go with our lives if the early morning the late-night go away and are maybe one day replaced by pay time only live with it.

Me I and not going to let these changes just go with out talking on here and emailing Disney what I feel.
Do you think we should just accept what has happen, what will happen and just do what you can afford. Who cares if at one time it was included

 

[ChipnDale79]

On topic question Kinda
On another form of somebody talking with me said that these new upcharges are the new norm similar to airlines and there is nothing we can really do about it so there is nothing we should be doing about it. which he meant we should all just except it and move on and go with our lives if the early morning the late-night go away and are maybe one day replaced by pay time only live with it.

Me I and not going to let these changes just go with out talking on here and emailing Disney what I feel.
Do you think we should just accept what has happen, what will happen and just do what you can afford. Who cares if at one time it was included

Contact Disney, it doesn't get you what you need, but it gets it on record.

And we can do something about it, we can stop going. WDW is a vacation destination, its not needed or required.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

That doesn't sound like a great deal really.

1) Who EVER said that Disney offers "Great Deals"?
2) I can't think of any that actually benefited guests . . . except the first two years of DDP.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

1) Who EVER said that Disney offers "Great Deals"?
2) I can't think of any that actually benefited guests . . . except the first two years of DDP.

The first 15 of DVC...since: poo

 

[manning]

I didn't read this whole thread...

But If they now want to charge a huge fee for what used to be the "normal end of the day"...then you tell them to go to hell and leave the park.

It's really that simple...no "circumstances" change anything.

And you know why? Because only you can end these abusive policies...through rejection.

What's so hard to figure out here?

You are too logical. P.T. Barnum has a gold mine

 

[manning]

Contact Disney, it doesn't get you what you need, but it gets it on record.

And we can do something about it, we can stop going. WDW is a vacation destination, its not needed or required.

Why are you posting here? You are making perfect sense. Now if everyone comes to their senses. Amazing what happens when emotions get out of control.

My job ,retired, involved negotiating. When they got emotional the sky was the limit. Gotta know when to walk away.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

You are too logical. P.T. Barnum has a gold mine

Common sense ain't that common?