Adrian Peterson

[JoeyEmmaMomma]

I keep seeing the argument, "This is how I was raised and I turned out just fine." Well, I have news for you - no you didn't. You were abused, and now you are abusing.

Exactly. So disgusting.

 

[kellyg403]

The first grand jury refused to indict. I don't think this is cut and dry, like other recent NFL cases.

Agreed. While I am in no way saying that the discipline was acceptable, I am wondering what the rest of the story is.

With that being said, Adrian Peterson certainly has had a rough life. Wasn't his brother killed in front of him when they were kids? Then his other son murdered?

I don't agree with the level of discipline, the style of discipline shown. Honestly, I have seen the pictures and he had to have been in a serious rage to inflict those injuries on that child. There is no way he didn't notice what he had done. Yeah, when I was kid my grandmother would make us go get a switch from the backyard to whip us with. It didn't make it right, but she never left inflicted that amount of harm to us.

If I remember correctly, AP was upset with the child over his interrupting another child's game. Which makes the discipline even more over the top

Kelly

 

[Oreo Cookie]

Just disgusting.

I saw the pictures of this little boys injuries and they are bad. Based upon Peterson's own comments, he believes he did nothing wrong.

When Peterson was asked how he felt about the incident, he said, “To be honest with you, I feel very confident with my actions because I know my intent.” He also described the incident as a “normal whooping” in regards to the “welps” on the child’s buttocks, but that he felt bad immediately when he saw the injuries on the child’s legs. Peterson estimated he “swatted” his son “10 to 15” times, but he’s not sure because he doesn’t “ever count how many pops I give my kids.”

Peterson went on to reiterate again how much he loves all his kids, and only “whoops” them because he wants them to do right. Toward the end of the interview, Peterson said he would reconsider using switches in the future, but said he would never “eliminate whooping my kids . . . because I know how being spanked has helped me in my life.”

After the child returned home to Minnesota in late May, the mother took the son to his previously scheduled doctor appointment and the doctor that examined the child said the injuries were consistent with child abuse and that it appeared the child had injuries from one incident involving a “switch” and another incident possibly involving a cord.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

The NFL has a major problem with violence and they keep sweeping it under the carpet. I blame individual players, the NFL, and the fans that keeps supporting these players.

There are still people who wear Vick jerseys, there were fans at the Ravens game wearing and supporting Rice, and I'm sure there will be fans supporting Peterson. Their acts were all violent, with the intent to harm. These acts weren't "mistakes" they were intentional.

We know Vick murdered dogs, Rice is a punch away from being a murderer, and Peterson could end up abusing his children to the point of death. How any fan continues to support them disgusts me.

 

[kellyg403]

Just disgusting.

I saw the pictures of this little boys injuries and they are bad. Based upon Peterson's own comments, he believes he did nothing wrong.



http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

The NFL has a major problem with violence and they keep sweeping it under the carpet. I blame individual players, the NFL, and the fans that keeps supporting these players.

There are still people who wear Vick jerseys, there were fans at the Ravens game wearing and supporting Rice, and I'm sure there will be fans supporting Peterson. Their acts were all violent, with the intent to harm. These acts weren't "mistakes" they were intentional.

We know Vick murdered dogs, Rice is a punch away from being a murderer, and Peterson could end up abusing his children to the point of death. How any fan continues to support them disgusts me.

I just have one question...so when mom got son back she didn't immediately call police or take child to dr, she waited until his previoiusly scheduled dr's appt. To me, that says mom didn't think it was a big deal either. Or am I totally reading that wrong?

Kelly

 

[Oreo Cookie]

I just have one question...so when mom got son back she didn't immediately call police or take child to dr, she waited until his previoiusly scheduled dr's appt. To me, that says mom didn't think it was a big deal either. Or am I totally reading that wrong?

Kelly

That's how I read it too. She kept the regular appointment. I don't understand how in 2014 any parent would think this type of punishment is okay. It is abuse.

 

[mnrose]

Just so people know, the "other son" who was murdered a couple of years ago by the mother's boyfriend was a son that AP barely knew existed. He had only found out about the boy a short while before his death. He was the sperm donor for that child, not the father. In fact, he had never even met his son, but was "planning to."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11348826/adrian-peterson-talks-life-changes-death-son

It's messed up.

I was spanked as a child too. That doesn't give me license to now beat my children under the guise of "that's how I was raised." I know better now. I can do better now. I am an adult and adults don't get a pass on this sort of thing, IMO.

 

[Missy1961]

Really? I remember half the DIS thinking Vick should be banned for life over cruelty to animals, but beating a four year old with a tree branch on his legs, buttocks and genitals until he's bloody might have been discipline that went too far?! Wow. Just wow.

That was my first thought too. I remember how Vick was a villain from the get-go because he harmed innocent dogs. Well, this guy hurt an innocent child. Why is that excused at all?

And reading his excuse - that "this is how I was disciplined" - makes me admire my dad even more. He was abused by his dad as a child but he never raised a hand to any of us - ever. He broke the cycle of violence.

 

[JanaDee]

The boyfriend could have been disciplining the child, but I doubt it given his history of violence. Also I taught in Texas and I dont remember teachers being allowed to hit kids . Lastly he probably didnt think it was bad because of his intent which was to discipline his child, it is not a bad thing to give a child a spanking. Now granted this spanking did go a little too far... I was a child that got spankings and I believe I turned out just fine. I don't believe I was abused either..... Actually a switch isnt an uncommon thing in older generations, which is probably what Adrian's father used on him when he was growing up.

Hitting your child with a tree branch until the child bleeds isn't spanking, it is abuse.

 

[bananasplitkids]

Hitting your child with a tree branch until the child bleeds isn't spanking, it is abuse.

I clearly stated that this spanking went too far. Do I think spankings are bad for the child, no. I'm going to wait until all facts come out, the first jury didn't think it was enough to indict… I think were so quick to judge as soon as we hear a headline or in this case a picture without waiting for the justice system to take place. As far as what the NFL should do. I don't think they should ban him right this instance as I've seen some calling for, then were stuck in the previous situation where it keeps getting worse and worse and the NFL is trying to put band-aid after band-aid on. I think him sitting out this game is the right call for now.

 

[shortbun]

What is the NFL doing about this one? Switching a 4yo bloody in several places is just as bad as cold cocking one's girlfriend. Neither one of those men should be having the privilege of making big money playing football. There are consequences to our actions.

 

[MnMomtoboys]

That's how I read it too. She kept the regular appointment. I don't understand how in 2014 any parent would think this type of punishment is okay. It is abuse.

Have we heard when the appointment was? For all we know the appointment was the next day.

 

[kellyg403]

Have we heard when the appointment was? For all we know the appointment was the next day.

Just out of curiosity, have you seen the pictures?

The ones I saw were terrible. As a mom, if one of my children came home from their dad's looking like that I would not wait.

But thats just my two cents.

Kelly

 

[diznygirl]

I was a child that got spankings and I believe I turned out just fine. I don't believe I was abused either.....

Were you beaten until you bled? This case is different than just a spanking.

 

[Wendy31]

I grew up in the South, so I'm familiar w/ "switches".

My sister & I stayed w/ my grandmother during the summer while our parents worked. My granny had a "switch tree" in their backyard. It was a bush w/ long, slender, flexible branches. We cousins all knew it was the Switch Tree. Once (once!) I had to go out & pick my switch. And, yes, my switching left red marks on my thighs.

I think I grew up fine. However, I have never used & would never use a switch on any of my children.

I saw the pictures of Adrian Peterson's son, & the pictures look like his "discipline" went way beyond what was necessary. At the very least, he needs parenting classes and/or anger management classes.

I was trying to think/understand what a 4 year old could do to cause that amount of rage & anger. I found one article on Daily News (I'm not going to link because it includes pics) which said he was punishing his son for pushing his brother off a video game.

Apparently, he texted the following to the boy's mother -

"You will be mad at me about his leg,” he texted, adding that he “felt bad after the fact.”

And then, later -

“Never do I go overboard!” he texted. “But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”

When I was a little girl, my dad was on our church's men's softball team. We'd go to watch him play along w/ the rest of the men's families. I remember one lady who would sit near us. She had twins who were younger than my sister & myself. And in her purse, she carried a wooden spoon. If she felt her kids got out of line, she'd take the wooden spoon out & march the kid to the parking lot. Sometimes, she'd take the spoon out & lay it on her purse so her kids could see it & be "reminded." I was scared to death of her. And I think all the other parents must have been too. Because no one ever said anything to her; they'd just laugh nervously.

 

[Patch'sD]

Rice, Peterson, and Vick should be banned for life end of Story.

 

[kellyg403]

I grew up in the South, so I'm familiar w/ "switches".

My sister & I stayed w/ my grandmother during the summer while our parents worked. My granny had a "switch tree" in their backyard. It was a bush w/ long, slender, flexible branches. We cousins all knew it was the Switch Tree. Once (once!) I had to go out & pick my switch. And, yes, my switching left red marks on my thighs.

I think I grew up fine. However, I have never used & would never use a switch on any of my children.

I saw the pictures of Adrian Peterson's son, & the pictures look like his "discipline" went way beyond what was necessary. At the very least, he needs parenting classes and/or anger management classes.

I was trying to think/understand what a 4 year old could do to cause that amount of rage & anger. I found one article on Daily News (I'm not going to link because it includes pics) which said he was punishing his son for pushing his brother off a video game.

Apparently, he texted the following to the boy's mother -



And then, later -



When I was a little girl, my dad was on our church's men's softball team. We'd go to watch him play along w/ the rest of the men's families. I remember one lady who would sit near us. She had twins who were younger than my sister & myself. And in her purse, she carried a wooden spoon. If she felt her kids got out of line, she'd take the wooden spoon out & march the kid to the parking lot. Sometimes, she'd take the spoon out & lay it on her purse so her kids could see it & be "reminded." I was scared to death of her. And I think all the other parents must have been too. Because no one ever said anything to her; they'd just laugh nervously.

BBM

In a different time, switches were the way to go when it came time for a whipping. Especially if my grandmother was involved...and you always wanted to pick the switch yourself if you know what I mean.

I don't agree with the punishment, and honestly, I don't think grown ups realize their strength. I do think mom should have taken that baby right away to a doc.

Kelly

 

[MnMomtoboys]

Just out of curiosity, have you seen the pictures?

The ones I saw were terrible. As a mom, if one of my children came home from their dad's looking like that I would not wait.

But thats just my two cents.

Kelly

I live in the twin cities of course I've seen them. All I'm saying is that we don't know when the appointment was. For all we know is she get him back the same day as the visit.

As for AP I say we kick him to the packers and let the trash deal with the trash.

 

[#1hoosierfan]

Beating your four year old with a tree branch until he is bleeding over a good portion of his body is a spanking "gone a little too far?"""" Wow! That poor baby had marks on his hands where his father was obviously holding onto him and he was putting his hands back trying to protect himself. Truly sickening, and I don't think much better of the mother who didn't take him right to the doctor.

 

[sk!mom]

I keep seeing the argument, "This is how I was raised and I turned out just fine." Well, I have news for you - no you didn't. You were abused, and now you are abusing.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! So well said. I will be using this quote often to perfectly and concisely express why physical punishment is never, ever OK.

I raised two children without ever raising a hand and they are much more "just fine" then DH or I either one.

I can't bring myself to look at the photos, in this case, but I don't need to see them to know that it was abusive and disgusting. It's also disgusting that some people think "hitting" is assault if the victim is an adult but "discipline" when it's a child- Assault is assault and really it probably should be more harshly judged when you're attacking someone with so much less strength and power than you.

 

[Miskey]

I just don't think this black and white. There's a lot of gray. Some people need jail and some need counseling. I do believe his childhood and life circumstances have played a roll in what happened. Not everyone grew up with good role models to know how to parent and there is no manual that is given to you when you have a child.

Do I think what he did was wrong? ABSOLUTELY

Do I think he needs to be burned at the stake and rot in hell? Not so sure, and luckily, not for me to decided. A judge, jury and God will decide

Do I think it's wrong that pictures of the child are plastered all over the internet? ABSOLUTLEY

This case should not be tried in the media