A Wedding WWYD?

I hate it when people start talking about other threads that I have no idea about or have forgotten about..it makes me want to hunt for them (that is if they are still around) :P:D


I do too, I’m sorry.

I think it was on the budget board and the jist of it was someone was having a backyard wedding for their son (?) and they didn’t want guests using the house bathroom so they were going to rent a port a potty for the yard. Actually, it may have just been a bucket with a bunch of sheets around it.
 
When we planned our wedding the only dates that were available for our venue that were within our budget were in the the fall. We knew that this meant that some people wouldn’t be able to go. We felt bad about it and didn’t blame them if they didn’t come.

Last spring a very close friend of the family got married at a destination wedding. My dh grew up with the groom and the kids call the groom Uncle S. Unfortunately we had to skip the wedding. Not only was the resort difficult and expensive to get to but there was a good chance my older son would miss a major math test. We felt terrible about it but the couple understood. When they returned we gave them a gift and took them out to dinner to celebrate.

My advice is to reach out to the nephew and bypass the brother. Apologize for not being able to make it and tell him that his grandparents are very sad about it going. Ask if there’s any way to make any special accommodations that will make it possible for them to go.
 
Go on the cruise for a few reasons:

  1. Your brother is acting as the Gatekeeper Of Wedding Information.
  2. Your brother has a pretty strong track record of announcing big family events for dates/times that no one can attend, followed by your brother acting like a drama queen and getting mad when everyone can't go.
  3. Your nephew has been engaged for 5 years. It's taken him and his fiance 5 years to figure out when the wedding date will be? Sounds like they have procrastinated quite a bit. No need to cancel a cruise when there's a pretty decent chance that they'll change their dates yet again.
  4. A wedding isn't about a fancy party. It's about celebrating & supporting the bride & groom in their marriage.
  5. You should consider communicating directly with your nephew and his fiance instead of going through Gatekeeper Brother.
  6. You'll know when the date is actually happening when you receive an invitation.
  7. Until you receive an invitation, as far as you know, everything on their end could be up in the air and subject to change....all of which are good reasons to continue on with your cruise plans. Go ahead and book shore excursions. Book your airfare & hotel for your cruise departure & arrival.
And now for a bit of story time:
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I got married. My parents invited all of the aunts & uncles. My dad has 3 siblings: 2 sisters and a brother. 1 sister could not attend because of work obligations. My dad and that sister are pretty close and she sent her regrets and we all understood and it was no hard feelings. My dad's brother came to the wedding. My mom's sister also could not attend because of work obligations...she ran her own business and the wedding was scheduled for a busy summer weekend. And my aunt's business depended a lot on the summer tourists. *I* understood, but my mom was always resentful about it. However, that was no surprise because my mom and her sister were always at odds with each other and never really got along.

Then there was my dad's other sister. To be perfectly honest, my dad really can't stand that sister. She is the only aunt or uncle of mine who had kids. Growing up, we only met this aunt & her immediate family one time. ONE time when I was maybe 6 or 7 years old did we ever meet this aunt, her husband, and my 2 cousins. That's it. No other trips ever to go see them or to invite them to come visit us. My dad and his sister corresponded a couple of times a year via letters. No phone calls. To say that they were "not close" was putting it mildly.

I don't harbor any ill will towards this aunt. Never have.

When the wedding date was selected for my wedding, my dad informed his siblings of when & where the wedding would be held. Then we sent invitations. Prior to the invitations going out, my aunt informed my dad that they might not be able to attend. Then the invitations were sent out and they RSVP'd with their regrets that they would not be attending.

My parents popped a gasket over it. My mom and dad were furious. Me? Well, frankly, I hardly knew this aunt & her immediate family. So while I thought it would have been really nice to spend some time with them to get to know them better, it didn't really bother me at all that they weren't going to the wedding. I didn't hold it against them and I didn't get mad at them.

In fact, I thought it was pretty darn unreasonable for my parents to expect these people to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on expensive airfare, car rental, and hotel to attend a wedding of someone who they hardly knew. My parents were mostly angry that this aunt didn't come to the wedding because they were worried about "But what will everyone think when they see that there's hardly any of our own extended family there?"

I yelled at them at the time, "What will people think? WHO CARES?!"

What I've figured out since then is that my aunt is a very shy person. She's not a social butterfly. I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't struggled with some social anxiety throughout her life. She's a very private person and tends to keep to herself. That's just the sort of person she is. I also know that in the 20+ years I've been married, she hasn't really ever made an effort to reach out to me to get to know me very much. Nor have I reached out to her very much either. I've written and emailed her a few times, but it's usually not reciprocated and I don't take it personally.

So re: your nephew's wedding....
If you want a relationship with your nephew, then cultivate one with him. Don't let your brother be the go-between all the time. Your nephew is an adult now and can make his own decisions.

Also, sometimes the apple falls far from the tree. And sometimes the apple does NOT fall far from the tree (with the tree being your brother, of course). So hope for the best, but plan for the worst. And just expect that for the rest of his life, your brother will continue to do last minute self-absorbed extended family planning that is only convenient for him and for nobody else. Your brother sounds like a drama queen and I wouldn't blame anybody for wanting to stay clear of somebody like that. Drama queens will often stir the pot in order to make things more interesting. Perhaps your brother is 1 of those people who purposely rocks the boat in order to create a big hairy mess.

You know what you should do with people who play games like that? Get out of his boat.
 

That would be fine except her family expects her to cancel her cruise and go to the wedding. The couple getting married are free to have the attitude that the wedding Is theirs and they can do what they want, but they have to accept that their plans won’t work for everybody and say nothing negative about guests that decline the invite. That is not happening in this instance.

That doesn't change anything. OP is only in control of herself. She should simply decline. If they can't handle it or it causes problems, that's on them.
 
I would continue with your planned cruise with your friends. When you get an invite with the final date and venue, if it works you go and if it doesn't you send regrets.
One question that popped into my head is regarding your parents. Is the father of the groom brother EXPECTING that the OP will bring the Grandparents to said wedding? OP has said they don't travel by themselves and that is why OP's Brother expects OP to cancel her cruise?
 
If the groom’s parents are expecting the OP to bring the grandparents; the the bride and groom should have selected a date that was convenient!
 
In April as I was walking into my son's wedding my sister in law told me "In three weeks I will be getting married" We knew she was engaged (but only for a few months) but this was the first we had heard about it. DH and I had already payed for a two week tour of the Utah and her brother and another sister had flown in for my son's wedding and were not coming back in three weeks. Then the topper was she was getting married in the Mormon Church and they only allow people of the Mormon faith to go to the ceremony.

I say go on your cruise.
 
He has already changed the date of his wedding. Who's to say he won't do it again? Personally, I would not change the date or itinerary of a trip that I had previously booked. Sorry, but other than my children's wedding, I don't really care that much about anyone else's.
 
Do whatever you want. Id you want to go on the cruise, go in the cruise. If you want to go to the wedding go to the wedding. Both are voluntary activities. At this point you know their potential schedule and they know yours. That should be the end of it. Don't expect them to change the date of their wedding just for you and they shouldn't be upset if you can't attend.
 
Thanks to all. You have actually been far easier on me than I expected.

I have not and will not ask anyone to change a wedding date.

I have not and will not complain about the venue choice to anyone other than my DH. (And this will be my last post on this subject here. I have done my venting and I thank you for "listening" and providing me some things to think about.)

I have not and will not cancel my cruise before I know that a date is firm. I will make my decision at that point.

I will let my daughter decide whether or not to book at this point. I only asked her to wait a few days so I could find out if wedding plans had actually been made.

I am not going to ask my parents, my brother, my sister-in-law or my nephew any more questions about wedding plans. They can let me know when something is final.

I have been holding off on making any cruise-related plans. I am going to go ahead and start researching hotels, flights, and excursions. I don't want to miss out on any good deals while I wait for them to figure out there plans. I only book things that can be cancelled anyway.

I see one giant, looming problem with the bolded, that nobody has seemed to address, so I'm going to say it.

What about your friends going on the cruise with you? The friends who had to book their time off work a year ago, who have made plans to go on the cruise with you, on a cruise that only happens two sailings a year. How are THEY going to feel about this? Will this damage your friendship with them? It seems inconsiderate to them to be considering cancelling the cruise at this point. If I had booked my vacation based on taking this cruise with some friends and they cancelled and it couldn't easily be rebooked, I'd be pretty upset with my friends. Please take their feelings into consideration, they might be more valuable and worthwhile to have in your life than your brother who seems to not give a hoot about other people.
 
I do too, I’m sorry.

I think it was on the budget board and the jist of it was someone was having a backyard wedding for their son (?) and they didn’t want guests using the house bathroom so they were going to rent a port a potty for the yard. Actually, it may have just been a bucket with a bunch of sheets around it.
I remember that! Homemade port-a potty!
 
Only read the OP and had to scroll back up to make sure I didn't write this!! The same exact thing happened to us 2013. We had our cruise booked for over a year and the first nephew in our family moved his wedding to the weekend we were leaving. I cancelled and moved the cruise out to the next year (and had to pay way more for it too!) because I thought no way can I miss my nephew's wedding, sister will be furious and so will the family!

Well the wedding sucked, my sister never changes her scheduled plans if we have something, and I said never again will I change my scheduled plans for someone else out of obligation.

So learn from my regret, take your cruise, you already have it scheduled, they'll get over it.
 
My brother and his wife know this and are completely unwilling to move the wedding date despite nothing being booked for the wedding yet.

If someone was really important to me and I hadn’t booked my wedding date, I wouldn’t book it for a time I knew they were already booked. In saying that you can’t get a date to suit all your guests.
Honestly there are 3 Aunts I would do this for and 5 I wouldn’t.

I would just RSVP that you can’t make it to the wedding.
 
I think it was on the budget board and the jist of it was someone was having a backyard wedding for their son (?) and they didn’t want guests using the house bathroom so they were going to rent a port a potty for the yard. Actually, it may have just been a bucket with a bunch of sheets around it.

We need a link please.
 
This thread is only a few posts away from turning into a repeat of the EPIC backyard wedding/porta potty thread.

I really wish we had a laughing button with the like button at the bottom of the posts...Yes, that was like watching a train wreck...you didn't want to watch, but you couldn't take your eyes off of it!! lol
 
That is a bit hurtful that they considered some people, but not your elderly parents. But it is their wedding. They can accommodate who they want to, but also people have the right to stay home.

I will say (and call me selfish), I would not travel 7 hours to attend a picnic in a park with an outhouse. That is basically a destination wedding, with the destination not up my alley. When you expect people to travel for almost a day, you should provide a place that at least has a bathroom with a flushable toilet. Five year engagement and they couldn't find a place with a bathroom? No. Not for me. The thought of an outhouse makes me want to gag. If that is pretentious, sign me up!:rotfl:

Go on your cruise, send a card, and if someone gets mad no biggie.

Absolutely...I totally agree!!
 
We need a link please.


I have tried searching for it but no luck yet. It was maybe in the winter or spring last year. It was either on the budget board or here. It was a monster thread too.

I’ll keep trying to find it.
 
I have tried searching for it but no luck yet. It was maybe in the winter or spring last year. It was either on the budget board or here. It was a monster thread too.

I’ll keep trying to find it.

I found this one, but it isn't a mega-thread. Homemade port-a-pots are first mentioned in post #5.
 
I found this one, but it isn't a mega-thread. Homemade port-a-pots are first mentioned in post #5.


That seems like it may be it but it’s really been pared down. I definitely remember seeing pictures of different buckets they could use lol
 














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