A simple DVC question that Ive gotten 3 different answers too

[allshookup]

Thanks all. So i guess the biggie is making sure i have enough points.

Oh, we originally were thinking of doing a dvc resale but have heard that Disney clamped down on these and that they have limited what you can use the points for (ie, cant use for disney cruise line, rci, etc). is that the case? Obviously want to get the most for the points.

thanks again all.

"Under the new policy, Members who purchase from anyone other than Disney Vacation Development, Inc., on or after March 21, 2011, will not be eligible to use those Vacation Points to make reservations within the Concierge Collection, the Disney Collection or the Adventurer Collection. Those Vacation Points will instead be valid only for reservations at Disney Vacation Club resorts, as well as for RCI® exchanges, Club Cordial and Club Intrawest."

You can still use them for RCI exchanges, club cordial & club intrawest, but like others have stated, not always a great value. As for as the cruise, even if you buy direct & have the option to use points, it is not always easy to get a reservation because they book up fast.

I just called DVC recently to ask what the currect price for BLT was & the guide stated $150 but they are offering points at $140 as a current incentive. I said, "okay thats a little steep, I guess we'll look at resale" and the guide I spoke to said, "whoa now you know those are stripped down contracts right?" We use to own SSR & we never used the points for the cruise, concierge or adventurer collection so I'm not concerned about the inability to continue doing so, but if that is your interest then you should look at buying direct.

 

[DebbieB]

I disagree with this statement (the part about reallocating by room type in 2010/2011).
While there may have been a very slight shift in points for a room type, by far the greatest change was weekday vs weekend.
For example, at OKW, the biggest point change for a week in any season in a studio or 1-br was 4 points for the whole week.
But for a single weekday the increase for a studio or 1-br was an increase of 2 to 10 points, and a single weekend day was a decrease of 7 to 23 points.

I agree that the biggest shift was weekend vs weekday but there was also some shifting between room sizes. It's been awhile since I looked at it but I remember grand villas went down. I also thought that the total for a particular unit had to remain the same for the year, but that is not true, it's the entire resort.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I disagree with this statement (the part about reallocating by room type in 2010/2011).
While there may have been a very slight shift in points for a room type, by far the greatest change was weekday vs weekend.
For example, at OKW, the biggest point change for a week in any season in a studio or 1-br was 4 points for the whole week.
But for a single weekday the increase for a studio or 1-br was an increase of 2 to 10 points, and a single weekend day was a decrease of 7 to 23 points.

I'd agree that for most of the reallocation it was the change between weekend/weekday but there were also changes between room sizes. In 2010 at VWL studios were decreased over all the seasons and the 1BR's absorbed almost all of that. And the GV's at both OKW and SSR were decreased overall which in the case of OKW seemed mostly to be allocated to the 1BR's and at SSR the studios were the one's that increased the most albeit was a modest amount - probably b/c of the difference in the number of other room sizes vs. GV's.

 

[com_op_2000]

Here is the deal.

On a yearly basis, some weeks will move from season to season - namely Easter. So if you always go "the second week in April" that will be in Magic Season most years and premier season some years.

On an occasional basis, Disney has the right to "rebalance" points. They have done this three times in fifteen years. This means that they've decided that - for instance - early December is too cheap and they make that cost more points. But in order to do that, they must lower the points somewhere else. The last two moves were really one move over two years that lowered the cost on weekends, but made weekdays more expensive. So those that stayed for a full week were usually points neutral, those that stayed for long weekends came out ahead, but a lot of DISers "saved" points by coming in on Sunday and leaving Friday - and they ended up short points.

I am an excellent example of this:
When I bought I had enough points to go for 27 nights per year Sunday through Thursday. With the latest changes, I am now down to 22 nights per year.

 

[Disney Doc]

We only ask because it looks like the point "costs" go up each year. So 3 years ago it cost 170pts for a week at SSR in a one bedroom villa.

The changes have never been that extreme. Three years ago (2007,2008, 2009), that 1 BR during October was 194 points for a one week stay. It dropped to 192 during 2010, then went up to 197 this year. To balance the increase, studios went down for a week's stay, as did some 2-BR and 3-BR units.

 

[crisi]

I am an excellent example of this:
When I bought I had enough points to go for 27 nights per year Sunday through Thursday. With the latest changes, I am now down to 22 nights per year.

And I'm an example of points neutral. We went for a full week, so it didn't really change anything for us.

 

[Smltown96]

#3 is the correct answer. Check out the points charts between years and you can see this in action.

 

[LisaS]

I agree that the biggest shift was weekend vs weekday but there was also some shifting between room sizes. It's been awhile since I looked at it but I remember grand villas went down. I also thought that the total for a particular unit had to remain the same for the year, but that is not true, it's the entire resort.

Another example is AKV where 1 week in a Savanna View 1BR went up for every season so the yearly total for that room type went up. I think this adjustment was made to compensate for reclassifying some Savanna View rooms as Standard View.

 

[dzorn]

"Under the new policy, Members who purchase from anyone other than Disney Vacation Development, Inc., on or after March 21, 2011, will not be eligible to use those Vacation Points to make reservations within the Concierge Collection, the Disney Collection or the Adventurer Collection. Those Vacation Points will instead be valid only for reservations at Disney Vacation Club resorts, as well as for RCI® exchanges, Club Cordial and Club Intrawest."

You can still use them for RCI exchanges, club cordial & club intrawest, but like others have stated, not always a great value. As for as the cruise, even if you buy direct & have the option to use points, it is not always easy to get a reservation because they book up fast.

I just called DVC recently to ask what the currect price for BLT was & the guide stated $150 but they are offering points at $140 as a current incentive. I said, "okay thats a little steep, I guess we'll look at resale" and the guide I spoke to said, "whoa now you know those are stripped down contracts right?" We use to own SSR & we never used the points for the cruise, concierge or adventurer collection so I'm not concerned about the inability to continue doing so, but if that is your interest then you should look at buying direct.

But remeber those options can be taken away by Disney at anytime even if you purchased direct.

Denise in MI

 

[supersuperwendy]

Buy extra points because depending on the changes that Disney makes you may be a little short or you may need to borrow every year.

Bill

I AGREE. Had we known when we joined in 2008 that the charts were going to reallocate twice we would have bought more. Hence..we've had to add on.

 

[NedsTJ]

For example, a 1 Bedroom for 1 week at SSR uses the following points per "season":
Year: Adventure Choice Dream Magic Premier
2008: 182 194 225 243 316
2009: 182 194 225 243 316
2010: 178 192 224 242 320
2011: 183 197 227 241 310
2012: 183 197 227 241 310


(Sorry for the formatting!) But it looks like I'll be short 2 points IF I went during the same season for the same room size every year, LOL.

 

[LisaS]

For example, a 1 Bedroom for 1 week at SSR uses the following points per "season":

Year  Adventure Choice Dream Magic Premier
2008     182     194    225   243    316
2009     182     194    225   243    316
2010     178     192    224   242    320
2011     183     197    227   241    310
2012     183     197    227   241    310

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