A Fly on the Wall Meal Review: How we ate in WDW on the QSDP *YORKSHIRE FISH SHOP*

I was pumped to see the Gold Peak. I gave up soda several years ago. It can be so difficult to find a drink. I love water but seriously, sometimes you want some flavor. I found that I liked to have the unsweet black tea with some of the white tea with citrus. Sometimes the unsweet tea had a funny after taste? The other tea helped that a lot. By itself, it was too sweet for me, the blend was great.
I'll have to try that, I really don't like sweetened tea that much, because I think a lot of the prepared ones are too sweet, but that sounds really good. I know before I've mixed coffee and cocoa to make some kind of mocha latte thing without the foam, lol, and it gives a caffiene boost when I don't want soda.
 
Wolfgang Puck Express, the counter service one in the Marketplace area of downtown has been our favorite DTD restaurant since our first trip to the world. Admittedly, the only TS we have eaten at has been the WP Cafe on the West Side. That was a good experience, but somehow, the counter service one still wins out in answering the question of where we would want to eat at DTD.

We were at Disney Quest. It was time for a break and some food. It felt like we hadn't eaten in a long time. Seeing it was around 3:00 PM, our hunger was justified. We took the water taxi from the West side to the Marketplace. I highly recommend the water taxi. :thumbsup2

At this time, WPE wasn't terribly busy. There wasn't much of a line to order. We might have been able to grab a table inside, but we prefer the patio. We have never actually eaten indoors here. The first time we ate here was prior to the remodel, when indoor seating was scarse and the patio was HUGE. Regardless, the patio is always much MUCH quieter than the interior. Sitting in the shade, dressed for the heat, with the ceiling fans whirring above, the patio is a fine place to rest your gambs and enjoy some excellent food.

DS expressed the desire for some steak. :laughing He's a meat eater, my DS. We steered him toward the salmon (another fav of his), knowing that it would be one of the few places to eat salmon on the QSDP. DH and I were feeling salad-y. The salad menu has changed since last June. It was time to branch out and try something new. DH and I both ordered the Curried Chicken salad.

One of the reasons we love WPE, as opposed to WPCE (West Side), is that last we knew, the creme brulee dessert was not an option at the West side location. We LOVE that it is at the Marketplace location. As I understand it, the two different locations are actually under two different managements, so beware, what is at one is not necessarily at the other. That said, we ordered 3 creme brulee desserts.

And for you iced tea lovers out there, WPE has some of the BEST iced tea to be found in the world. My personal fav is the Tropical Tea which is a flavored unsweet tea. Don't ask me how they do that, I just don't know. But the effect is similar to the Asian tea that is served at Panda Express locations, if you are familiar with that chain. It's tea with a bit of bite AND flavor, not really sweet.

Most know that when you order at WPE, they give you a number to put at your table. Your entrees will be brought to your table by a server. It wasn't a long wait.

The curried chicken salad was served with toasted, unbuttered, cinnamon raisin bread. Granny smith apples and candied pecans were prominent toppings. The salad was EXCELLENT:

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I didn't ask how the salmon would be served. It was very salad like, served over a bed of mixed greens with a sauce/dressing on the side, and topped with fresh pico de gallo. There were a couple of sliced red potato pieces, seasoned, baked and served with the skin on under the greens:

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DS did NOT eat anything but the salmon. Which was not surprising at all. After the salmon, he ate his creme brulee:

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which was very tasty, and announced that he was more hungry. Also not surprising. I ordered a second CS meal for him. I ordered the Pennette Chicken Alfredo, bottled water, and frozen yogurt for dessert, for a change of pace on the creme brulee and also because it seemed like a nice cold thing on a hot day. I was told that we could come back to pick up the frozen yogurt when we were ready for it.

The chicken alfredo came out in short order. Penne, chicken, al dente peas, smothered in a rich creamy sauce and topped with BACON:

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This was rich and oh so good. After finishing our salads, DH and I both had bites of the pasta. It was just that late and we were just that hungry. We still couldn't finish it all. DS was sad to not be able to "save the rest for later" but what can you do?

My men split the frozen yogurt from the fourth meal. They had sauce and a variety of toppings for it. They just got a small servings. It wasn't too creamy. It was more icy and it did have a bit of a bite to it that you would associate with yogurt. With the fudge sauce, it wasn't overly sweet, so it was a nice finish to a meal. But I would still get the creme brulee over it any time.

WPE is one receipt that doesn't zero out the dollar amounts. The total for the first round of 3 entrees, beverages, and desserts was $70.61. When you realize that this is more than the cost of the character breakfast, you understand why everyone says that WPE is such a good deal for a CS credit. The second bill for the pasta, beverage, and dessert was $23.43.

I know it's been said before, but it bares repeating. When you are faced with a week's worth of eating at CS restaurants, WPE is a great change of pace. Your entrees are served to you. No paper plates. No plastic utensils. It's a treat on the QSDP for sure.
 
Thanks so much for the QSDP review. We are headed to pop next month and after a lot of thinking about upgrading. We didn't want to be tied down to 10 days of ADR'S. So we let everyone pick a adr and it still will be cheaper than upgrading. We are eating at WPE also during our trip.
 

Pepper Market, while not nearly in the same league as WGP, is a nice change of pace as well. There is a variety of different items and you sort of get waited on and you get real dishes as well. Not sure it is worth it if you have to take several buses to get there and back though. Best if you have a car.

TxRabbit, I like your take on WGP. It is our very favorite place, DP or OP. If the weather is great I like the one on the West End as we often go see a movie on a non park day. In hot or cold weather the Marketplace one cannot be beat but it gets awfully crowded at times. The food is worth it though. Great report!

lblume91, I from near the Columbus area, are you nearby?

Slightly Goofy
 
Slighty Goofy: I totally agree with you about Pepper Market. Also about the having a car to enjoy it. It's my next review! LOL.
 
Great report so far! I can't wait to read more!

There is a WPE just 2 blocks from my office. In fact, I ate there on Friday. It is really good but a little on the pricy side so I see that it would make a good value as a CS. Everything I have ever had has been delicious!
 
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Great reviews. We too love wpe and earl of sandwich, too. We ate a t Cape May for the 1st time last year and enjoyed it. My ds12 gives a slight edge to Chef Mickey's bfast due to krispy kreme doughnuts!
 
Thanks so much for the QSDP review. We are headed to pop next month and after a lot of thinking about upgrading. We didn't want to be tied down to 10 days of ADR'S. So we let everyone pick a adr and it still will be cheaper than upgrading. We are eating at WPE also during our trip.

We thought about the upgrade too, because the original thought of that much CS all week was rather :eek:. But then when we thought about making ADRs, it was like :eek: all over again, and we decided to just do something we haven't done before. Really, supplementing the QSDP with a few ADRs works well. We ended up having 2 TS meals for our 5 night trip. WPE is awesome. You can't go wrong with anything on the menu IMO.

Love your WPE review!! Can't wait to read more!

Thanks!

Great report so far! I can't wait to read more!

There is a WPE just 2 blocks from my office. In fact, I ate there on Friday. It is really good but a little on the pricy side so I see that it would make a good value as a CS. Everything I have ever had has been delicious!

I didn't know there were locations outside WDW! But, DUH. Makes sense. I wonder where else they are? You make me want to look. It is definitely on the pricy side, although in all fairness, if you were to order the chicken alfredo dish (or similar) you could easily split that oversized portion between two people. I agree, we have eaten there at least once, usually twice, on every trip and I've never had a bad meal.

Great review so far. I love it when people do reviews of the QSDP..:cool1:

QSDP reviews are rare, it's one reason I wanted to try to do one! Welcome!

Great reviews. We too love wpe and earl of sandwich, too. We ate a t Cape May for the 1st time last year and enjoyed it. My ds12 gives a slight edge to Chef Mickey's bfast due to krispy kreme doughnuts!

EoS is yummy too. We ate there at the end. FYI, Tusker House also has the Krispy Kremes! We LOVE those things...especially when you go to the store itself and get them hot and fresh!:thumbsup2
 
It was almost 9:00 PM when we left DTD.

The big question was whether or not we were hungry for more food. And if so, did we really want a full meal? This is the beauty of the QSDP or for that matter, planning an evening for a CS credit on the DDP. With input from DS, it was clear that we could eat a meal, especially with the prospect of hitting the pool that night a definite part of the plan to close out such a hot day. So, where?

We knew that we could have eaten at WPE again, but we were ready for a change of scenery. The idea of the food court at ASSp wasn't appealing. The idea that hit home was to stop at Coronado Springs Resort and eat at the often debated (at least here on the Dis) Pepper Market.

I was very excited to eat at the Pepper Market. My impressions of it were that because CSR is a convention hotel, the Pepper Market was more upscale than a typical food court. The available menus seemed to bear witness to the fact. I had often wondered if staying at CSR with a QSDP wouldn't be one of the sweetest deals ever. Also, years and years ago, DH actually went to a convention at CSR, not that he had clear memories of his stay, but he had the impression of liking the resort. I wanted to see it for myself.

The guard at the gate saw our Disney parking and resort key and thought we were guests at CSR. He said "Welcome home," which was a lovely sentiment that I remembered from WL the previous year, that we hadn't heard at ASSp. Parking was easy.

It was now fully dark. I couldn't really see the grounds and get a feel for the exterior of the resort. As we went walking through the lobby area and down the corridor to the restaurants, the wall of windows across the back was like a wall of black mirrors. It was impossible to see outside.

Walking into CSR was like walking into an outside area. Mentally, you understand that you are INSIDE, but the design, the high ceilings, the flooring, the decor, are all designed to make you feel like you are still OUTSIDE.

Please note: I admit I did not take any of these photos. (I forgot my camera in the car, and just didn't feel like going back out to get it.) I found them online. My thanks to all of the photographers that took them

This fountain is in the lobby area when you enter CSR. Several rooms and corridors branch out from this kind of courtyard feeling room. The destinations are written in the arches above. You can see the corridor that eventually leads to the Pepper Market:

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The Pepper Market is surrounded by rod iron fencing, which is kind of an odd prison-like look from the outside. Walking down the corridor, you actually encounter the exit side of the restaurant first. The lady is standing at the exit. If you look through the gates, you can see the cashiers sitting on the tall yellow chairs. Beyond the cashiers are the tables. Beyond the tables is the market area, where the food stations are.

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Keep walking on the right side of this view to get to the entrance. Greet the host, or hostess, with a smile. Tell her how many are in your party and answer appropriately to the question about whether or not you have been to Pepper Market before. Your host, or hostess, will seat your party, hand out menus, explain the methodology of the restaurant, and tell you the name of your server. Not your typical CS at ALL. She will leave cards on your table, one for each member of your party.

The table seating area is beyond unique for a food court. Designed to resemble an outdoor courtyard or patio area, there are several umbrellas and awnings. The beverage station is hidden inside a building in the middle of the table area.

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Your server will come greet you. He, or she, will take your drink order and bring your drinks to your table. They will note your drink order on one of the cards left at the table by the host/hostess. If you have refillable mugs, your server will fill them for you. There was not a self service area here at Pepper Market that I could see. You will notice that it is quite clear (the all caps, bolded letters stand out on the menu) explaining that gratuity is NOT covered under any dining plan. Your server may be so bold as to say this to you as well.

You will have time to look over the menu, which details the different food stations and what is available at each station. The food stations are all clustered together. In appearance, they give the impression of several food carts covered with awnings which together give the feel of an outdoor faire or farmer's market. Walking around the area, like other food courts, you have a chance to see many of the food offerings being made for other guests or on display under glass.

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Because every member of your party can have their own card, every member of your party can go to any food station independently to order what they want. When you order, your card is stamped with what you ordered. Unlike other food courts, where a cashier separates the food stations from the table seating, at Pepper Market, paying for your meal occurs at the end of your meal. Since you have already eaten your food, a cashier can't look at your tray and ring up what you are carrying, instead, you carry a card to the cashier that records what you ate.

This food court is no different than any other in that, if members of your party go to different food stations, your food may be ready at different times. You may not all be eating at the exact same time. A major plus though, is that rather than having to wait around for everyone to get their food, so you can all pay together, if your food is ready, you can just go back to your table and eat it while it's hot.

Knowing that this would be one of the few, if the ONLY, places where we could eat steak on our trip (eating at CS locations), my family all opted to order steak. There was a short lived debate between getting a steak based Mexican meal versus the full on NY Strip offered at the grill. In the end, we all ordered the NY Strip. There is a REAL grill at the grill station. The kind with fire and grates (not a griddle). We like our meat juicy and decidedly pink. We all ordered medium temperature steaks. We were told to come back in 12 minutes. My engineer DH looked at his phone and announced that we would be back at 9:26 PM. We decided to wait at our table.

I nearly ran over the lady standing behind me as I turned to head back to the table. After apologizing and making a crack about not seeing my reverse lights, we laughed and moved on.

Promptly at 9:25 PM, we headed back over to the grill. Upon arrival, we sensed the tension in the air as there was some commotion. A lady unfamiliar with the process (not that my own first-timer self was a pro) was having problems because she couldn't decide who should be in front of who. Whose steaks were on the grill. And was she being treated fairly and securing her rightful place in line. Who were you after?

This was compounded by a second CM that kept asking people which temperature they had ordered for their steaks.

Now I'm not shy. I looked around and announced that I knew I was in front of the woman that I almost plowed over, to which we shared another chuckle because the collision really wasn't that bad. And I had been told to return here to pick up my order at 9:26, so I had no idea where else in line I was, except that I was back where I was supposed to be. Please note, as blunt as I sound as I write this, I was just as factual with the irritating woman that was trying to overly control the situation. She was very surprised that I had a time schedule and knew when my food would be ready, because she hadn't been told that.

So here's a tid bit. If you go to the Pepper Market to get some yummy steaks, ask how many minutes (about) that will take. It may be helpful.

And as to the yummy steaks...DH and I both opted for mashed potatoes and grilled veggies. I DID take this picture with my cell phone:

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The steaks were prefectly prepared. If you are thinking that the one edge looks pretty fatty, then you observe correctly. This is the nature of the NY Strip cut of meat. I haven't EVER purchased one myself without the rind of fat around the edge. Don't be put off by it. Cut it off and eat the meat. ;)

Our server offered us steak sauce. We declined. The mashed potatoes were AWESOME. I LOVE mashed potatoes. These had the skins on, so were rustic, buttery yummy goodness. The grilled veggies were hit and miss. Nice flavor, however, some of the squashes were a little over done for my taste, in that they got a little mushy in the middle. Not bad, because they held their shape, but squash isn't my favorite (although grilled is one of my favorite preparations for it) to begin with, so I can be hard to please there. The peppers were great. DS only had fries for a side dish. They were tasty.

It was nice to eat with silverware and plates. We didn't have a steak knife, and I don't know if there was one available (none was offered), but the steak was so tender, we could cut it with the butter knife.

We decided to ask for our dessert to go. I'm sorry I didn't take a picture. DS ate his later that night. DH and I ate ours for breakfast the next day. Anyway, DH and DS both ordered the chocolate mousse cake. This was chocolate cake (a little over an inch high), covered with a layer of chocolate mousse (about half the size of the cake), covered with a thin chocolate layer which could have just been powder. I ordered the strawberry shortcake. My dessert was okay, but the chocolate mousse cake? YUM YUM YUM. Light and fluffy. I wished that I had ordered it instead.

The Pepper Market is not so wonderful that I would go out of my way to get there. Especially if I were relying on Disney transportation. Honestly, even if I had my own car, I would not go out of my way to go there. HOWEVER, if you are staying at any of the All Star Resorts, and are driving, you will pass by CSR on the way back to the resort from everywhere on property except the Animal Kingdom and possibly Blizzard Beach (which I think may be on the same road but right between CSR and All Stars. It is SO worth it to stop into CSR to eat at Pepper Market for something different on the QSDP.

Based on online prices (which jive with my memory) our before tax and 10% service charge (which was included on the QSDP) was $58.08.
 
TxRabbit, I have seldom been to the Pepper Market that it was not chaos. They used to have the best burrito there but that has changed as of our last visit. The hard part for me is that I have to go stand in two lines to get our food as husband does not do lines and if he did he would run up a bill that would unhinge even government workers.:rotfl:

In the beginning of your report you stated that there was a sign saying that the gratuity was not included on ANY of the DP's however at the end you state that the 10% service charge was included on the QSDP. I am taking it that it is as it has been in that the tip is included with QSDP but not the other levels??

The pictures were lovely, including the one you took of the food. I love your commonsense reviews. I am so looking forward to further reviews. :worship:

Slightly Goofy
 
In the beginning of your report you stated that there was a sign saying that the gratuity was not included on ANY of the DP's however at the end you state that the 10% service charge was included on the QSDP. I am taking it that it is as it has been in that the tip is included with QSDP but not the other levels??

To clarify...On the menu, statements said that the 10% service charge was included in the dining plans and GRATUITY was NOT. And our server was quick to point out that GRATUITY was NOT included. This was implied to be something that would be given to the servers IN ADDITION to the 10% service charge.

I do not know the DIS tipping policy with regards to Pepper Market, or if there is one. I made mention of this because it was new to me to think that there might be gratuity in addition to the service charge (which I had thought was a kind of gratuity based on the nature of the restaurant). I want other's to benefit from my experience, because I was unprepared for the prospect of an additional expenditure for this meal.

Slightly Goofy: Thanks for the compliment. I have a lot of fun doing these reports. I try to make them as unbiased as possible, while describing my experience.

I just read on another thread about your tremendous achievement with weight loss. How cool is that? It was encouraging to see that you were able to vacation and still make progress. I just scheduled a big family birthday bash cruise for March 2012 (I turn 40 that month). It is a motivational goal for me lose weight and I hoping that I don't wreck my progress on the cruise! You had encouraging words on the other thread, I didn't want to hijack over there, but I'd like to express my appreciation for reading about another's success in vacationing and maintaining/continuing weight loss. It's so good to read!:thumbsup2
 
Good gravy, TxRabbit, they want to charge a service charge and also expect an 18% tip? Cross that one of my list if is required. I live in the real world where entire meals cost less than the required tip at many Disney restaurants and I'll be darned if I am going to cough up 28% AND stand in line to get my own food, carry it to the table, and wait, often in vain, for a drink refill. Did you leave a tip?

I always leave one at WGP because they bring my food out to me, not as much because I go get my own refills and silverware, napkins and straws.

You are so kind and it sure do feel good to be supported in my quest for perfection. Okay, somewhere near normal. :banana: I am still large but Barnun and Bailey have quit sending me employment applications. I am near to being able to buy clothes from the OTHER side of the store. Some folks might fear a size 18 but I am so looking forward to it. I know that you will do just fine on the cruise. The secret, which I wish I had learned much sooner, is to not deny yourself totally, find a plan that you can live with (for life) and if you falter just get right back on and NEVER, NEVER give up. :cheer2:

Think they will bring back the tip jars in the resort bathrooms complete with a creepy person standing outside the stall asking if you need anything? :scared1:

Slightly Goofy
 
I loved your WPE and Pepper Market reviews! They were very informative and your pictures were great! Some of the Pepper Market ones I had never seen.
 
Great review of Pepper Market, it is one of my favorites!

Thanks! We really enjoyed our meal there.

Good gravy, TxRabbit, they want to charge a service charge and also expect an 18% tip? Cross that one of my list if is required. ... Did you leave a tip?

I went searching for more back up to my own experience here and it seems that I am walking out of there with a unique perspective. But I swear I got it right.:laughing:

I'm posting this again for the benefit of all who read this thread. When we left to pay our bill, I handed the cashier the cards that recorded what we had ordered, 3 steaks, 3 level 2 bakery items, and 2 fountain drinks. The cashier took my card, did her thing to charge me 3 CS credits and I went on my merry way. The required 10% service charge was not something that was added separate to any bill. This 10% was clearly posted as being something that would automatically be charged. Since I did not sign off for it separately, and since it didn't show up on my room bill, and since I didn't pay cash or anything else, it was definitely included in the meal plan, though the tipping thread here on the DIS has postings contrary to this information.

HOWEVER, it was ALSO quite clear that a separate charge, called GRATUITY, totally separate and independent of the charge called SERVICE CHARGE was NOT INCLUDED. So YES, there seems to be an expectation that you will pay about 28% on top of the actual bill, if you leave an 18% gratuity.

I wonder if all the business travelers factor into this?:confused3 Depending on how the bills are rung up, for the purposes of business, the service charge may just show up as a food expense, which means that a separate gratuity could be paid for my companies. My company had an 18% tipping policy, where that was the expected standard. If you wanted to tip more, then that would be an OOP expense as far as the company was concerned. Could just be another way to try to get money. Not to be like that, but seriously, I thought it was a ridiculous thing.

I did NOT tip. I only observed one other party give gratuity here, and this was personally handed to the server as the party was leaving the restaurant.

From a logistical stand point, how WOULD you tip at Pepper Market, unless you carried cash? Which I don't. Unlike a TS place, where your server actually handles your payment, and thus, a servers name is associated with your ticket, if you tried to add a tip to a room charge, how would they credit YOUR server? He didn't write his name on any of the cards.

I can tell you that it kind of put me off to staying at CSR. I think there is another CS location there that is more self service and that would help. I sure wouldn't want to deal with the Pepper Market all the time, like I had wondered about, thinking it would be such a great advantage to have with the QSDP.

I wouldn't write it off your list.
 
I loved your WPE and Pepper Market reviews! They were very informative and your pictures were great! Some of the Pepper Market ones I had never seen.
Thanks! Remember, I only took the one picture of the steak! LOL.

I found all those other pictures on google images. I thought that they really captured the feel of the place.
 
Great review of the Pepper Market. I love the look of that place. I don't think it will be worth our trip on our next stay (with no car) but if we ever end up at CSR, we might check it out!
 














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