A different kind of flashing .... beware ....

[PrincessYessenia]

Disney has a policy of allowing rerides immediately for guests whose photo is deleted.

I'd hope so!

I think it's ridiculous that people do things like that. I mean, grow up! I personally feel that it's a despicable act to do in a childrens theme park, or even any park! Can't they get kicked out if they are caught? I think they should be removed from the park immediately!

 

[pixiewings71]

The thing that would really irk me is if I WANTED the photo of ME and some twit ruined it for me. Especially if I had stood in line for a long time to get on the ride.

I wonder if people will be demanding to be put at the front of the line in order to "re-take" the photo.

Wouldn't it be great if they could put Goofy or Mickey over the offending part of the photo so everyone else could still buy the photo?

We had a photo deleted because of inappropriate actions from people in front of us (DBF saw it, the guy was groping his GF in the front, luckily my kids didn't see it because I would have been reallllly ticked off), so we talked to the CM and they gave us a front of the line pass, we walked up, got on, rode again and bought the pic.

Disney has a policy of allowing rerides immediately for guests whose photo is deleted.

I'd hope so!

I think it's ridiculous that people do things like that. I mean, grow up! I personally feel that it's a despicable act to do in a childrens theme park, or even any park! Can't they get kicked out if they are caught? I think they should be removed from the park immediately!

I wish they would do that too, as well as tell guys that go in (or girls) wearing inappropriate shirts that they can't get in until they change!!!!

 

[zeitzeuge]

For a company who doesn't allow facial hair, tattoo's, piercings or long hair on their employees, why DO they allow people in the park wearing offensive tshirts? I've never understood that. The last time we were there, 3 teenagers had on shirts with a popular four letter word on the front in big 6 inch letters across the chest.

I'm known for not having the cleanest mouth on the planet, but it offended me even. The CM's had to have seen the shirts when they were boarding. I just don't get it.

 

[PrincessYessenia]

For a company who doesn't allow facial hair, tattoo's, piercings or long hair on their employees, why DO they allow people in the park wearing offensive tshirts? I've never understood that. The last time we were there, 3 teenagers had on shirts with a popular four letter word on the front in big 6 inch letters across the chest.

I'm known for not having the cleanest mouth on the planet, but it offended me even. The CM's had to have seen the shirts when they were boarding. I just don't get it.

I agree 100%. It makes absolutely no sense. Knowing myself I would have complained about it, but then again, it would fall upon deaf ears and nothing would be done.

 

[pixiewings71]

For a company who doesn't allow facial hair, tattoo's, piercings or long hair on their employees, why DO they allow people in the park wearing offensive tshirts? I've never understood that. The last time we were there, 3 teenagers had on shirts with a popular four letter word on the front in big 6 inch letters across the chest.

I'm known for not having the cleanest mouth on the planet, but it offended me even. The CM's had to have seen the shirts when they were boarding. I just don't get it.

I agree 100%. It makes absolutely no sense. Knowing myself I would have complained about it, but then again, it would fall upon deaf ears and nothing would be done.

I did say something once to a CM on Indy, a guy in front of us had something offensive on his shirt, offensive enough that I wouldn't let my kids look at it, and the CM just shook his head and said to me "yes, I wish people would have more common sense" I asked him point blank to do something about it and nothing was done. CM said he'd call ahead and have a lead say something when the guy got off Indy, he was on the car ahead of us and when we got off no lead was anywhere and no one said anything to the guy. Pretty much ticked me off because I felt the CM totally blew me off.

 

[fairycat]

I did say something once to a CM on Indy, a guy in front of us had something offensive on his shirt, offensive enough that I wouldn't let my kids look at it, and the CM just shook his head and said to me "yes, I wish people would have more common sense" I asked him point blank to do something about it and nothing was done. CM said he'd call ahead and have a lead say something when the guy got off Indy, he was on the car ahead of us and when we got off no lead was anywhere and no one said anything to the guy. Pretty much ticked me off because I felt the CM totally blew me off.

Recently I had issue with a visitors clothing (girls jeans were cut up like the 80's and showed WAY more then was appropriate), I mentioned it to a CM and he told me sadly they are not really allowed to say anything any more. He seemed frustrated by it as well. The worst part is I knew some one how I met up with whose shirt was not bad (no offensive language or anything) that they said might not be appropriate at the parks, while they gave her grief she was also not asked to change. It seems Disney is not as tough as they used too. Which is good and VERY bad!!!!!!

 

[MissDisney04]

2 things:

i hate that people do make stupid decisions that actually ruin the experience for others

if i saw breasts in any other place than Disney, i would be stoked, but really, there is a time and a place for nudity, and when its meant maliciously, it is wrong. i dont believe just being naked around a child will scar them, its making the nudity seem inherently sexual that makes it a *bad* thing, and by exposing yourself because you know you arent allowed to, and that it will offend someone, that is malicious

t-shirts: freedom of expression is a good thing, and i am SOO grateful i dont live in the early days of DL when you couldnt even ENTER the park with a beard (my husband has to have facial hair, or i just dont find him as attractive...not ugly, but really, facial hair is best)

by making words evil, we actually cause the stigma that we are afraid of. gay was never a bad word, or a negative word, but PEOPLE made it that way. things that are *profane* just are, and its how you use it that gives the word the power.

 

[carmel]

The thing that would really irk me is if I WANTED the photo of ME and some twit ruined it for me. Especially if I had stood in line for a long time to get on the ride.

I wonder if people will be demanding to be put at the front of the line in order to "re-take" the photo.

Wouldn't it be great if they could put Goofy or Mickey over the offending part of the photo so everyone else could still buy the photo?

I totally agree. I bought the photo of my daughter and myself on TOT (our favorite ride). The expression of joy on our faces was too cute to pass up. Had I had someone flashing their ta-tas, I would have been royally po'd. Even if we got to ride again, the spontaneous 'real' happy smiles wouldn't be the same.

Also, with the force of the negative Gs, my ta-tas - though safely tucked away under my shirt - were closer to where they used to reside on my chest! I had to get photographic evidence of that!

 

[pixiewings71]

2 things:

i hate that people do make stupid decisions that actually ruin the experience for others

if i saw breasts in any other place than Disney, i would be stoked, but really, there is a time and a place for nudity, and when its meant maliciously, it is wrong. i dont believe just being naked around a child will scar them, its making the nudity seem inherently sexual that makes it a *bad* thing, and by exposing yourself because you know you arent allowed to, and that it will offend someone, that is malicious

t-shirts: freedom of expression is a good thing, and i am SOO grateful i dont live in the early days of DL when you couldnt even ENTER the park with a beard (my husband has to have facial hair, or i just dont find him as attractive...not ugly, but really, facial hair is best)

by making words evil, we actually cause the stigma that we are afraid of. gay was never a bad word, or a negative word, but PEOPLE made it that way. things that are *profane* just are, and its how you use it that gives the word the power.

As a parent I feel it's my right to chose when/if my children see breasts or groping etc etc. I don't feel that Disney is that place. And honestly I don't want to see anyone's breasts myself while at DL and I've got nothing against a nice pair. LOL

I hear what you're saying and I agree with people need to use common sense when dressing for Disney and they need to respect others and not wear clothing that may be offensive. kwim?

 

[MissDisney04]

i agree, parents absolutely choose for their children!

my opinion is that benign nudity shouldnt be villified, as it causes so many types of emotional reactions that make sex and nudity a *bad* thing

i dont want to see malicious flashing in any way, and i would be angry if it happened in a photo like anyone else.

I hear what you're saying and I agree with people need to use common sense when dressing for Disney and they need to respect others and not wear clothing that may be offensive. kwim?

i think that MAKING a word a big deal, hurrying them past it, telling them that it is bad makes a bigger deal of it than just ignoring it

i am an adult, and it is my choice to wear anything i choose to (i pretty much exclusively wear Disney clothes, especially in the parks) and it is YOUR responsibility as a parent as to how to handle it. Children arent going to avoid all the badness and negativity and *profanity* no matter how hard *loving* parents try to censor others.

If my children (if i ever get to the point where i actively want them enough to adopt or do IVF) hear *f* then its a word. Period. Like any other. It isnt bad, or evil. How it is used and how big of a deal is made out of it is what gives any word power.

You may not *curse* around your child, but that doesnt mean that everyone in the world should stop. There isnt even a word in the world for how oppressive it is.

Disney can control who works for them, how they dress and what is ok for them to say. They are a private company. They can't, and should not, determine who comes in, as long as safety and security is maintained. Plus, how much can a word really hurt you, if you dont let it.

For me, Disney is all about innocence, nostalgia and childlike wonder. But it isnt that for other people. I dont like when the princesses are shown with grotesque twisted *humorous* poses, or naked. I would never act in a way that I would at home, because I feel differently there (i am a *potty mouthed* adult who talks openly about sex, religion, and politics, but thats not how i feel in Disney). I would not impose MYYYY idea of enjoyment on any other person. Trust me, if I did, I would lobby for an *Adults Only* day in the park a year, to avoid parents giving me dirty looks for getting my picture with a character, or little kids tripping me and making bash my knee *** they werent watching (luckily i was, and i only fell on my knee). I dont want kids banned just because i dont really enjoy them being there.

 

[pixiewings71]

I see a lot of things in your post that show you have no knowledge of who I am. lol Seriously, if you and I were close you would know that most of what you said is the exact way I feel. I know that you are defending your right to wear what you want and I appreciate that and don't hold it against you in any way. In the instance with the shirt guy (I can assure you that if you had seen what it said you likely would have been offended as well, it was NOT family friendly in anyway, in fact it was borderline not female friendly) I didn't do anything more than have DBF stand in a way that blocked my girls view of his shirt, I don't freak out when people wear things I consider inappropriate but my girls DO notice these things and ask about them. The time with the groping the girls wanted to know why they couldn't see the photo, we told them people in front of us were acting childishly and they pretty much guessed what was going on. They are not overly shielded from life, from curse words (I work in the music industry, yes we curse at home LOL), from alcohol, from what drugs can do to you, from PDA's etc etc but I do expect people to act with common courtesy when in DL because Walt built it for FAMILIES and while I've been to DL without my kids I still hold the same values then as I do when we are with them and behave the same way. And you better believe that when someone is behaving or speaking inappropriately around my children I will speak up and let them know they are being offensive to our family. If that offends you fine, I've already been offended by your actions now you can see how it feels. And yes, the F word used around my kids is offensive and yes it is a "bad" thing for them to say so it will be treated as such in our family.

Sex & nudity are not bad, but again it is MY right as a parent to chose when my children are exposed to it. I have 2 girls, ages 9 & 12, everything that surrounds us influences them, I'm trying to make sure those things are good influences and not bad.

Disney has the right to refuse service to anyone based on anything, as a family environment they need to uphold that and prohibit offensive clothing. It's as simple as that.

FYI, the term "you" is not directed at YOU specifically, it's being used here in a general term and covers anyone and everyone. I'm not fighting with you I'm simply pointing out my different opinion and belief.

 

[MissDisney04]

i guess i get a little touchy about things that seem like censorship of my private life

i dont think that it i should be punished because someone else has a child, but i do agree that you have every right to ask someone who is actively offending you to be wary around your children. if you are polite, i would listen. if you acted like your childs happiness/audio protection was the only thing that mattered, or tried to condescend me, i would be less likely to alter my behaviour

at the same time, i just allow kids to annoy me, *** i cant stop all of them, and i know what i love, they love, so my mild inconvenience doesnt garner anything more than a shrug (when people smoke in no smoking areas, i have learned to not say things, because my husband is afraid i will get in a fight, though i am not a violent person. apparently i had trouble with my tone, but i rectified that)

we can totally disagree, but at least it didnt disintergrate

if Disney went back to guest censorship, even though the restrictions would not affect me personally, i would stop going to the parks. one of the things i love about Disney is that its not political, religious or any other type of oppressive entities. they put on a show that anyone can enjoy, and that includes people who have a less than childlike wonder (again, not me, but still)

 

[PrincessYessenia]

I see a lot of things in your post that show you have no knowledge of who I am. lol Seriously, if you and I were close you would know that most of what you said is the exact way I feel. I know that you are defending your right to wear what you want and I appreciate that and don't hold it against you in any way. In the instance with the shirt guy (I can assure you that if you had seen what it said you likely would have been offended as well, it was NOT family friendly in anyway, in fact it was borderline not female friendly) I didn't do anything more than have DBF stand in a way that blocked my girls view of his shirt, I don't freak out when people wear things I consider inappropriate but my girls DO notice these things and ask about them. The time with the groping the girls wanted to know why they couldn't see the photo, we told them people in front of us were acting childishly and they pretty much guessed what was going on. They are not overly shielded from life, from curse words (I work in the music industry, yes we curse at home LOL), from alcohol, from what drugs can do to you, from PDA's etc etc but I do expect people to act with common courtesy when in DL because Walt built it for FAMILIES and while I've been to DL without my kids I still hold the same values then as I do when we are with them and behave the same way. And you better believe that when someone is behaving or speaking inappropriately around my children I will speak up and let them know they are being offensive to our family. If that offends you fine, I've already been offended by your actions now you can see how it feels. And yes, the F word used around my kids is offensive and yes it is a "bad" thing for them to say so it will be treated as such in our family.

Sex & nudity are not bad, but again it is MY right as a parent to chose when my children are exposed to it. I have 2 girls, ages 9 & 12, everything that surrounds us influences them, I'm trying to make sure those things are good influences and not bad.

Disney has the right to refuse service to anyone based on anything, as a family environment they need to uphold that and prohibit offensive clothing. It's as simple as that.

FYI, the term "you" is not directed at YOU specifically, it's being used here in a general term and covers anyone and everyone. I'm not fighting with you I'm simply pointing out my different opinion and belief.

Hear, Hear. I agree that everyone is entitled to their freedom of expression, HOWEVER....

People know they are going to a family park and KNOW what is right and wrong. Of all the clothes they may have they CHOSE to wear the offensive shirt or article of clothing, which I think is wrong. It may not offend them but they are intelligent enough to know what offends others and should make wiser decisions.

Not saying that people must make their decisions based on everyone else's opinions. But we all know the time and place for things. Out and about in my personal life I'm not offended at all by those particular shirts, and that's because I'm not easily offended at all.

It just bothers me when people wear things to the parks that are full of children. Children will learn about things as they get older and different parents teach their children "the way the world works" at different paces. I'm just an extremely considerate person (I put others before myself which isn't always a good thing) so I always make sure I don't offend anyone in any way as much as possible.

That's just my opinion. Take it as you may.

 

[Gisele]

In life in general, over the years, I have seen a multitude of t-shirts and other articles of clothing, that I really did not care for. Fortunately, they were not in my presence for very long at all. So far, I have not seen such, in Dl.
My visit last Year, I almost could not believe that a young adult couple were not only making out in the waiting area of the Tiki Room, but they were having apparently quite an enjoyable time with their tongues. That was just so disgusting for me to see. I hope to God, that the children that were present did not make too much notice of it. The CM at the turnstile, I had informed him of that. One can not miss it, they were so close to us both (Gag!) he did not say anything to them. I then said to the CM, they should get a room. I do not care if this offensive couple heard me, matter of fact, I hope that they did.

 

[mechurchlady]

Don't make Mary Jo and Judy shut down this thread.

Personally I am with pixiewings with this matter. I cuss when my system is low but not in DLR. I burp loudly at dinner time but last night I stood up and walked away from the table as they did not have to see my pain and burping. I walk barefoot many places but not in Disney parks. I have ragged old pants that I wear at home but I would never wear them in parks as they barely stay on. I bathe before going to parks and make sure I am as neat and clean as possible even if right now I could scare Frankenstein, lol.

It is courtesy and respect for others. it is hard to live in the modern world when you have religious moral values that are very strict or just are an old fashioned person who does not like to the rumps hanging from hot pants. That is what makes Disney parks so special. Walt made the parks so that families could come to the parks and have fun without the drunks at the Pike and other seaside amusement parks. A safe haven of rest for the family where they can play without seeing the seedy side of life.

 

[PrincessYessenia]

Don't make Mary Jo and Judy shut down this thread.

Personally I am with pixiewings with this matter. I cuss when my system is low but not in DLR. I burp loudly at dinner time but last night I stood up and walked away from the table as they did not have to see my pain and burping. I walk barefoot many places but not in Disney parks. I have ragged old pants that I wear at home but I would never wear them in parks as they barely stay on. I bathe before going to parks and make sure I am as neat and clean as possible even if right now I could scare Frankenstein, lol.

It is courtesy and respect for others. it is hard to live in the modern world when you have religious moral values that are very strict or just are an old fashioned person who does not like to the rumps hanging from hot pants. That is what makes Disney parks so special. Walt made the parks so that families could come to the parks and have fun without the drunks at the Pike and other seaside amusement parks. A safe haven of rest for the family where they can play without seeing the seedy side of life.

Very well stated! I totally agree. And yes, lets NOT get this thread shut down!

 

[pixiewings71]

I feel that we have all had this discussion in a very adult and grown up manner, I don't think the mods need to worry about it or shut it down.

I've had many instances with individuals being inappropriate around kids, not just mine either. A few times it's ended very well, a few not so well. I think the best was on Mother's Day when a young man was very upset about something and was very loud and dropping the F bomb like crazy, I said something and he told me "this doesn't concern you lady" and I said "you're right, your discussion does not concern me but your language concerns me when I have children in my car with me". Apparently he was so upset he didn't realize I had kids in my car and he did tone it down. Once we stepped into the restaurant he actually came up to me and DD12 and apologized to us both for his behavior. We both thanked him and I felt that was a good indication of how this kid was going to grow up. It's common courtesy and honestly I feel that too many people don't have that in our world anymore. Freedom of expression if a beautiful thing and I don't begrudge anyone their right to it, but there is a time and a place for it and I don't feel that DL is it.

Great talk everyone! This is one of the things I love about our area of the Dis, we can talk about things like this without it getting heated and angry.

 

[PrincessYessenia]

I feel that we have all had this discussion in a very adult and grown up manner, I don't think the mods need to worry about it or shut it down.

I've had many instances with individuals being inappropriate around kids, not just mine either. A few times it's ended very well, a few not so well. I think the best was on Mother's Day when a young man was very upset about something and was very loud and dropping the F bomb like crazy, I said something and he told me "this doesn't concern you lady" and I said "you're right, your discussion does not concern me but your language concerns me when I have children in my car with me". Apparently he was so upset he didn't realize I had kids in my car and he did tone it down. Once we stepped into the restaurant he actually came up to me and DD12 and apologized to us both for his behavior. We both thanked him and I felt that was a good indication of how this kid was going to grow up. It's common courtesy and honestly I feel that too many people don't have that in our world anymore. Freedom of expression if a beautiful thing and I don't begrudge anyone their right to it, but there is a time and a place for it and I don't feel that DL is it.

Great talk everyone! This is one of the things I love about our area of the Dis, we can talk about things like this without it getting heated and angry.

Wow, how commendable of him to apologize to you, not many people would go out of their way to do that. And I'm also glad we can have discussions without getting angry. that's always nice. I love to have discussions about ANYTHING because I've always been very interested in finding out other peoples opinions. IDK, I just always like to have different perspectives on things and see things the way other people do, not just the way I see them. I'm just very open-minded. Good talk

 

[toocherie]

Wow, how commendable of him to apologize to you, not many people would go out of their way to do that. And I'm also glad we can have discussions without getting angry. that's always nice. I love to have discussions about ANYTHING because I've always been very interested in finding out other peoples opinions. IDK, I just always like to have different perspectives on things and see things the way other people do, not just the way I see them. I'm just very open-minded. Good talk

Yes, I agree-this has been a very good and civil thread. And I am by no means a prude and I don't have children--but I have been appalled by some of the clothing and language I have seen and heard in the parks. Even shirts that aren't obscene per se--but just are inappropriate. One that was probably "on the line" was a shirt that had a picture of a roll of toilet paper on it and said "That's Just How I Roll"--yes, not obscene, but really, you don't have something more appropriate to wear to a family park? And then I have seen some things that make my eyes pop out--both from what the clothes "say" to how little of the clothes there are (like the lady in the see-through top.) I hope that in some cases these people are coming in with jackets on and that is why the CM's initially don't catch them--but think it's sad that in a privately owned place like DLR Disney cannot ask a guest to wear appropriate attire and act appropriately.

(And don't get me started on the people spitting or allowing their children to urinate in the bushes)

 

[Gisele]

That is disgusting! Peeing in the Disney bushes? I have not seen that before nor have heard about it before either. ICK! Spitting on the ground is gross too.