60 Years ago this Sunday

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A 5000-vessel armada, carrying over 150,000 men and nearly 30,000 vehicles across the English Channel
Six parachute regiments of almost 13,000 men -- were flown from nine British airfields in over 800 planes.
More than 300 planes dropped 13,000 bombs over coastal Normandy immediately in advance of the invasion.


By nightfall on June 6, more than 9,000 Allied soldiers were dead or wounded, but more than 100,000 had made it ashore, securing French coastal villages


Eleven months later the war in Europe was over


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My Dad was in the Coast Guard and was a mechanic on an LST during the invasion. He was there. He never talked about the war, until a couple of years ago and now I understand why. A lot of his friends never came home. His birthday is June 21st and he'll be 80.
 
That is cool ( for lack of a better term, if you know what I mean)

I know a few people that really don't talk about it unless it's to another vet.

They have also videotaped their dad's talking about their experiences so that their grandkids and great grandkids can understand what had to be done.
 
Thanks, mb, we should never forget. So many gave, and so many gave all.
 

To paraphrase Churchill, "Never has so much been owed by so many to so few". I am sure that there are French citizens that will never forget their day of liberation. I am not so sure the French government has a very good memory. That was the day the world was saved!
 
All of my uncles were over there, one came back so badly injured he was never able to fully walk or work again.

My Dad was in Hawaii in the Navy waiting to ship out on that day 60 years ago. For his 55th wedding anniversary, he and my Mom just left yesterday to go back to Hawaii for the first time since then. On Sunday, June 6th, he's planning to visit the USS Arizona Memorial. He's turning 80 and this 60th anniversary has been very emotional for him since he lost so many WWII veteran friends this past year because of their ages. He said he knows he will cry like a baby and hopes he doesn't embarrass himself there. I said there's no such thing, be proud and cry away..

I give all of the those veterans my heartfelt thanks for their courage and bravery 60 years ago. (I send the same to our current soldiers in different parts of the world today.)
 
Nice picture and reminder, monkeyboy!

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Here dead we lie because we did not choose
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, it is true, is nothing much to lose,
But young men think it is,
And we were young.
-- A.E. Housman
 
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my husbands grandfather was there on the beaches that day. He to could not and would not talk about those days for a very long time. it has only been in the last few years that he started talking about what happened to him over there. He was shot three times ( three seperate times) the last time he was shot in the faces and was thought to be dead.

He now goes into local schools and talks to the children. He has also told his accounts for several big movies that were made.


I hope that we never foget those people past and present who have given their live for our freedom.
 
Originally posted by suzannen
All of my uncles were over there, one came back so badly injured he was never able to fully walk or work again.

My Dad was in Hawaii in the Navy waiting to ship out on that day 60 years ago. For his 55th wedding anniversary, he and my Mom just left yesterday to go back to Hawaii for the first time since then. On Sunday, June 6th, he's planning to visit the USS Arizona Memorial. He's turning 80 and this 60th anniversary has been very emotional for him since he lost so many WWII veteran friends this past year because of their ages. He said he knows he will cry like a baby and hopes he doesn't embarrass himself there. I said there's no such thing, be proud and cry away..

I give all of the those veterans my heartfelt thanks for their courage and bravery 60 years ago. (I send the same to our current soldiers in different parts of the world today.)

We took our sons to Pearl Harbor and the Arizona in 1998. There was a survivor there who was 17 years old at the time of the bombing. The horror he described was wrenching. He prayed that if God would deliver him, he would serve the Lord. He was saved and went on to fight the war with his comrads. At the end of the war he became a Baptist minister and served on Maui until his retirement. Mitsuo Fuchida, the Japanese fighter pilot who led the air attack on Pearl Harbor is remembered by his shout: TORA, TORA, TORA. He was wounded but survived. After the war he met a missionary and converted to Christianity. He went on to become a Methodist minister. Years later, after the WWII survivor (I am sorry I don't remember his name) retired they met at Pearl Harbor. Fuchida apologized for his attack on Pearl Harbor and asked for forgiveness. I have a hard time recalling this vet's talk without tearing up. My sons were deeply moved. There will soon come a time when we visit Pearl Harbor and the Arizona and there will be no one there to tell us there first hand story of bravery and courage.
 
For a really good "easy read" about D-Day, pick up "Voices of Valor", just recently released.

It is a very moving account based on numerous interviews of the survivors.

it also has 2 CD's with it that have the actual interviews on it.


Also, when in Southwestern Virginia, Please visit the National D-Day memorial in Bedford, VA.
 
Originally posted by DawnCt1
To paraphrase Churchill, "Never has so much been owed by so many to so few". I am sure that there are French citizens that will never forget their day of liberation. I am not so sure the French government has a very good memory. That was the day the world was saved!

It doesn't matter if the French government remembers it (which they do, DH has been reading lots of the news from back home) it's the people that matter and they remember. My DH's Grandfather was killed by the Nazis, we are not the only ones with stories about that time in history. My MIL and I sat together holding back tears at Omaha beach, different generations, different countries, different stories - same reaction.

There is so much that can be said about that time, none of which will do those men and women any justice. They truly are/were the greatest generation. I am constantly in awe of the lack of arrogance they have shown, I only wish the same could be said for the generations that have followed (mine included)

Spending time in Normandy is humbling, seeing the beaches and fields, the towns and villages, the history and memories that are there, it's still hard to find the words to express the emotions that it brings. They haven't forgotten, how could they?

I wish that everyone here (the US) that holds such a horrible view of France were able to visit that area just once. To see what the French people (not just Parisians) are truly like.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...M5WAVCBQYJVC?xml=/news/2004/05/30/ndday30.xml

It is 1899 and Denzel Washington, the American president, orders Anne Frank and her troops to storm the beaches of Nazi-occupied New Zealand.

This may not be how you remember D-Day but for a worrying number of Britain's children this is the confused scenario they associate with the events of June 6, 1944.


Pupils knew more about Saving Private Ryan than they did about the real events of the D-Day landings

A survey of 1,309 pupils aged between 10 and 14 and from 24 different schools found alarming levels of ignorance about the invasion of Normandy 60 years ago.

Only 28 per cent of primary and secondary pupils who sat the quiz last week were able to say that D-Day, involving the largest invasion force ever mounted, was the start of the Allied liberation of occupied western Europe.

Many of them could only say that it was something to do with the Second World War - though 26 per cent were flummoxed by even that fact. Some thought it took place in the First World War, or was the day war broke out, the Blitz and even Remembrance Sunday.

"It's a day when everyone remembers the dead who fought," said a 14-year-old girl at a north Devon secondary school. Only 16 per cent of 918 participating primary school children had the answer right.

One 10-year-old in a Northamptonshire school thought it was the day the "Americans came to rescue the English". Another thought D-Day involved "the invasion of Portsmouth". Various dates for the assault were 1066, 1776, 1899 and 1948.

Children also had great difficulty in naming Britain's war-time prime minister. Less than half of the overall sample and only 39 per cent of primary school children correctly identified him as Winston Churchill; a significant number opted for Margaret Thatcher or Tony Blair.

Seventeen per cent of the sample and only 38 per cent of secondary school children identified Franklin D Roosevelt as the then President of the United States. Other candidates offered by both age groups were Denzel Washington (the Oscar-winning actor), George Washington, John F Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and George W Bush. Some said simply: "George Bush's dad."

Ignorance about the Allied leaders, however, contrasted sharply with knowledge about Adolf Hitler. Overall, 71 per cent of the sample and 64 per cent of primary school children were able correctly to name the Nazi leader. Only one in three could identify the broad location of D-Day, with a number saying that it happened in New Zealand, Skegness or Germany.

Thirteen per cent could name two of the beaches involved, and only 10 per cent of the sample knew that Dwight D Eisenhower was the Supreme Allied Commander. Others thought that the invasion was led by Anne Frank, Private Ryan (the eponymous hero of the Steven Spielberg D-Day epic), or Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery, Eisenhower's deputy.

The disclosure that school children know so little about D-Day comes a week before the country prepares to celebrate the anniversary and will again focus attention on what sort of history is being taught in schools.

Even in those schools where the Second World War is taught, the emphasis is not necessarily on military events or even wartime leaders. One primary school teacher said: "We do study the Second World War but we do not tend to concentrate on particular military events or leaders. We look at issues that are relevant to children themselves. They learn about evacuation for instance, or the issuing of gas masks."

Dr David Starkey, the historian and television broadcaster, said yesterday that the survey had uncovered what he called a climate of "unfortunately reduced horizons and expectations".

It was "absurd", he said, that children were spending so much time discussing Hitler and Stalin to the detriment of everything else connected with the war.

"There is nothing difficult about the concepts being discussed and no reason why a child of primary school age should not be able to understand."

He said that he did not want to go back to a situation where history teaching was nothing but dates and battles, but he said he feared that the pendulum had swung too far in the other direction.

"I think that trying to begin any subject by relating to a child's own experience is a useful tool. But education is about teaching children things they do not know."

Chris Grayling, the shadow education minister, said: "These are really very recent events that have shaped the lives of all of us.

"It is a real worry that so few children seem to know the basics of what happened during the Second World War. We must not allow this to continue."

There were some exceptions to the general ignorance. One teacher at Great Addington Church of England Primary school in Northamptonshire was amazed to find that one of his pupils had scored 100 per cent in the test.

He said: "I asked him how he knew material which we had not covered in school. He told me he had picked it up from a D-Day game he played on his computer."
 














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