5th park at WDW?

I am glad someone finally mentioned Marvel characters. Yes Disney can't use the characters already being used. However if you have been to DS lately there is a Marvel store now which I am sure will help with their testing of the market.

I am part of the group wanting a more adult coaster park. They can use the Disney Villains for the smaller kids and the Marvel characters for the teens and adults.

I don't see Disney simply purchasing Marvel and not do anything with it in their parks.
 
I've been hearing for the last 4 years that a fifth park was in the works. One of the cast members we spoke with told us it was going to be a Villians Park. With all the new hotels being built, Disney needs another park to accommodate all of their guests.
 
I've been hearing for the last 4 years that a fifth park was in the works. One of the cast members we spoke with told us it was going to be a Villians Park. With all the new hotels being built, Disney needs another park to accommodate all of their guests.

that is complete crap....not to be harsh...but that's what it is.

Cast Members know NOTHING...they are cogs in the machine to management, sub-human(just an instrument), and a financial liability that has not yet been replaced or eliminated...that's all. They are never told anything because they are not important enough to tell and therefore are the last to know.

but that goes both ways: when someone in polyester making 7.50 an hour tells you about "plans" and speaks about "the Company"...they are delusional as well. So rumors are a taken with a grain of salt for two reasons.

Second...they in no way need more parks to accomodate people. They have enough space for not only their 20 or so individual units...they have enough for the 400 hotels located outside of disney property that are primarily there to pump tourists into WDW....

The numbers are nowhere near unmanageable now...no crisis in parks space is anywhere close to being a reality.

sorry...but it is what it is
 
I've learned that you can't completely dismiss cast member rumors. My cousin, who now works at Team Disney Orlando, used to work in various smaller jobs about the parks. He used to tell me rumors that were spot on. I found that the ones that he said that didn't happen were actual blue sky ideas that didn't make the cut.
I know that some people will argue this fact until a fifth park is actually open, but let's face it, the only true way that WDW will see a significant increase in attendance is by opening a major fifth gate. The report that was released in the Orlando Sentinel from Reedy Creek calls for a fifth major park by 2018. It said it wouldn't, however, be open until after 2013.:thumbsup2
 

I've learned that you can't completely dismiss cast member rumors. My cousin, who now works at Team Disney Orlando, used to work in various smaller jobs about the parks. He used to tell me rumors that were spot on. I found that the ones that he said that didn't happen were actual blue sky ideas that didn't make the cut.
I know that some people will argue this fact until a fifth park is actually open, but let's face it, the only true way that WDW will see a significant increase in attendance is by opening a major fifth gate. The report that was released in the Orlando Sentinel from Reedy Creek calls for a fifth major park by 2018. It said it wouldn't, however, be open until after 2013.:thumbsup2


They are under obligation to build nothing that is in the Reedy Creek masterplan filed with the state.

They leave their options open.

That is not to say that they have not - and will continue to - evaluate the need for more gates...

but its not even realistic at this point.

One school of thought is "build when the economy is slumping"...the progressive, intelligent plan.
But disney sees one dollar as a waste of profit these days and will not invest what will amount to at least 1 billion (probably much more) dollars worth of operating cash on another park in florida.

and besides...even if they started today - it would probably take something like a minimum 6 years to get another park concept complete. It would involve extending the infrastructure, swamp reclamation, drainage...etc etc etc because no track is ready and available that wouldn't require those things...and i doubt they build a new park in EPCOT's parking lot. And then you talk hotels, roadways, waterways...yadayadyada

So there is no way anything will open before 2018. Remember that they took about 5 years to construct AK...and one section wasn't open...and other sections were eliminated and left the concept gutted. And All Stars and Coronado and Blizzard where already built and opened years ahead. That was all one development...they don't sit close to each other by accident...throw wide world of sports in that pot as well.

So while i would welcome any COMPLETE new gate. The fact is that it doesn't make any sense right now...and they haven't built a complete gate on their own since EuroDisney...and that was 20 years ago under a different regime in a different economic reality. As much as Michael Eisner became a mad scientist in a suit in later years...he really did follow through on the "disney decade" idea he pitched...most things were built. The last 10 years have shown NOTHING...only hong kong can even be considered a product of post-2000 Disney...and even that was probably generated long before (they did have an island built for them). It's been pretty weak...the shift has gone from getting bigger to just increasing the revenues. Pretty obvious from the cheap seats (i.e. NOT at Cinderella's Royal Table:lmao: )

Whatever dollars available should be put into 1. Animal Kingdom 2. Studios 3. EPCOT in that order...and only new support services, rennovations to downtown, perhaps a new waterpark or specialty area should even be considered.

DVC construction will proceed as planned....which means everywhere:woohoo:
 
In DEC 2008 I was told they were planning to build a coaster park left upper cornor of the property. This would be based mostly on the villians, since then Disney has made the largest purchase of any media industry ever buying Marvel.

Their first release was Iron Man 2 and as you can see from the movie they are setting up for the whole 9 yards. There will be a whole franchise of movies coming out with Thor, the Green Hornet, Captin America and the Avengers. Disney would be dumb not to try to do something with all of this to attract people to the parks. BTW not one of the Avengers is used at any of the universal parks.

To be honest for the cost of Unviersal they don't have anything going for them if you were trying to count them as a thrill ride area. There are far better coasters or thrill rides out there for less money. But the park is unique and has some great fun rides to include the hulk, spiderman, harry potter etc...

If they build I think they should not try to best thrill rides out there just some really good ones. Like rock n roller coaster. I think they should do a pirate land and capitalize on that franchise, do a villians land, avengers land and for the kids Pixar themed thrilly rides

I am all for another park
 
It is interesting that many of you have mentioned Marvel comic characters being considered for a new theme park or "land" expansion. I am not a big comic book person and I don't know much about the characters...some are new to me. I received a survey from Disney Rewards this week that asked ALOT of questions about many of these Marvel characters and my perception of them. Also had lots of questions regarding website games my 9yr old does/doesn't visit/play. Also asked about which Disney and Nickalodean(sp) shows and characters my 9yr old likes. Asked about which kid movies we have seen and bought.

It sounds like Disney is gauging public perception and interest in their newly acquired Marvel vs their current offerrings and their competition. Not once did it ask about spiderman, hulk, etc. that Universal owns the theme park rights to in Florida. Just food for thought......:surfweb:
 
Interesting. On the Theme Park Insider Discussion Boards, they mention a rumor about a Disney thrill park. It's under "Night Kingdom" (although that's not the name of it.) Someone said that they heard from someone "within Operations" that told about the park. It may include a Marvel section that would be more "Epic" than the one at Universal. I know it's just another rumor, but there have been more "thrill park" rumors lately.:thumbsup2
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but find it interesting that Disney has lowered the cost and seems to my trying to move out a lot of their "Four-Park" merchandise online and advertised for the upcoming Benefit Sale at DTD
 
Interesting. On the Theme Park Insider Discussion Boards, they mention a rumor about a Disney thrill park. It's under "Night Kingdom" (although that's not the name of it.) Someone said that they heard from someone "within Operations" that told about the park. It may include a Marvel section that would be more "Epic" than the one at Universal. I know it's just another rumor, but there have been more "thrill park" rumors lately.:thumbsup2


Night Kingdom WAS planned, or at least that's what a lot of reliable sources said, however I believe it's been shelved for the forseeable future
 
From what I've heard from a reliable source at one of the other sites, Disney did polling about the Night Kingdom concept. Apparently, it polled terribly with guests. He said it was something like only 1 in 8 people actually liked the idea. He claimed that the nails are in the coffin for that one. I hope he's right. A $300 park with no traditional rides - only things like zip lining and rock climbing - sounds very boring to me. It sounds like they're trying to nickel and dime the Four Seasons crowd.:thumbsup2
 
Right. It seems that they may be going to add some of the concepts from Night Kingdom/Jungle Trek to DAK for an additional price.:thumbsup2
 
who did it ask about?


I remember it asking about Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, and a few more characters....maybe Wolverine?? and ??? sorry can't remember. It asked all kinds of questions about my perception of the characters and how I felt about them being something my family would like, yada, yada, yada asked like 10 different ways. You know how surveys work it:headache:
 
Iron man makes the most sense at this time, since it is a major movei franchise that has no role at Universal.

Plus, there are Captain America and Thor movies coming out over the next year and half with an Avengers movie featuring all of them. Then if the Avengers cartoon is a hit on Disney XD well.....
 
There seems to be a lot of quick-shooting down of ideas, so please no harshness! I'm just here to dream and have fun brainstorming : )

I think it would be cool to have something like DisneySea in Japan... I love all the water-themed lands!
 
There seems to be a lot of quick-shooting down of ideas, so please no harshness! I'm just here to dream and have fun brainstorming : )

I think it would be cool to have something like DisneySea in Japan... I love all the water-themed lands!

This would be a great choice. Most of the attractions there don't have a US version.

But what is strange the idea for TDS came from Westcot, which was the DLR version of Epcot. A lot of evolution.
 
This would be a great choice. Most of the attractions there don't have a US version.

But what is strange the idea for TDS came from Westcot, which was the DLR version of Epcot. A lot of evolution.

Seriously? I had never heard that -- what an amazing piece of trivia! Would love to hear more if you have a story on that to tell...
 
But what is strange the idea for TDS came from Westcot, which was the DLR version of Epcot. A lot of evolution.
Not true.

Disney had two different West Coast projects competing with each other in the early 1990s.

One was Port Disney in Long Beach, California, adjacent to the Queen Mary (which was operated by Disney at the time). It featured the DisneySea theme park. For more information, see http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2007/01/long-beach-project-aka-port-disney.html

The other was the Disneyland Resort expansion in Anaheim. It featured WESTCOT, loosely based on EPCOT Center. It was a much more ambitious plan than what was eventually built at that location: DCA and Downtown Disney Anaheim. For more information, see http://www.yesterland.com/westcot1.html and http://www.yesterland.com/westcot2.html

The idea for Tokyo DisneySea and even the name came from DisneySea at Port Disney (not WESTCOT). The result in Tokyo is based on what was planned for Long Beach, but, of course, the plans evolved for Toyko.

Ideas from dead Disney projects often creep into new Disney projects, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few ideas from WESTCOT made it into Tokyo DisneySea. But I certainly wouldn't say that the "idea for TDS came from Westcot, which was the DLR version of Epcot."
 


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