2026 Dues Predictions and Questions

There are roughly 14 million SSR points. If DVC members receive the full benefit of that it would be worth about $0.20 per point. I'd say it's somewhat material.
I hope you’re right ! I don’t expect anything. Will we be allowed to ask questions on that matter at the condo association meeting?
 
I hope you’re right ! I don’t expect anything. Will we be allowed to ask questions on that matter at the condo association meeting?
Oh I'm not counting on being right, it would be a happy surprise but I bet somehow it won't go to the owners.

I don't see why we couldn't ask questions about it. IMO anything is fair game to ask about, it's just whether they'll give a straight answer or avoid it by saying "we'll look into that."
 
I'm trying to remember details of the dispute. If the outcome was as budgeted, then it won't change anything. For example, It looks like even though they got some payments back from that contractor, they also had to pay one of the original subs to complete the work. I suspect it was pretty close to zero, net net.
 
If someone really wanted to make the comparison between resorts and account for seasons properly, it is probably easiest to use the Maximum Reallocation values. These are listed in each resort's POS, and they represent the points cost for a particular room type if every single night of the year were the same---and, at some resorts, if there were no differences in view.

For example, at OKW the values are (Studio/1BR/2BR/GV):
15, 30, 40, 65

At SSR, they are:
15, 32, 41, 64

So, pretty darn close.

Finally took the time to look at this. For BWV I found

15, 30, 40, 100

So I stand my ground that paying more dues at OKW is justified by the low point chart is not accurate. I will add to my disclaimer unless you want to exclusively stay in GV, then BW isnt the best deal.
 
If someone really wanted to make the comparison between resorts and account for seasons properly, it is probably easiest to use the Maximum Reallocation values. These are listed in each resort's POS, and they represent the points cost for a particular room
if a particular room type becomes increasingly popular, DVC might raise the points required for that room while lowering the points for another room type or travel period that is less in demand.
For BWV I found

15, 30, 40, 100
That means if preferred view or peak time (maybe weekends) are more popular, then they will cost more points. Meanwhile, the points needed could be lowered for other view or other time.
That could be why weekday of some seasons of BWV and OKW have such a great point chart! SSR doesn’t have a big difference between weekday and weekend.
 
if a particular room type becomes increasingly popular, DVC might raise the points required for that room while lowering the points for another room type or travel period that is less in demand.

That means if preferred view or peak time (maybe weekends) are more popular, then they will cost more points. Meanwhile, the points needed could be lowered for other view or other time.
That could be why weekday of some seasons of BWV and OKW have such a great point chart! SSR doesn’t have a big difference between weekday and weekend.

BWV also has multiple room categories with a big distinction. The point chart is “fantastic”(cheap) for standard rooms, but Boardwalk view rooms are pretty comparable to other resorts. And that makes it hard to compare to resorts without multiple view categories (like CCV, OKW).

1 weekday October night studio:
Boardwalk Standard studio is a very cheap 14 points.
But Boardwalk view is 18 points — which is more than the 16 points for a preferred view at SSR. Only 1 point less than Savanna view at AKV (19 points). It’s 1 point more than the studios at CCV (17). It’s 1 point more than the studios at Beach Club (17 points).
 
BWV also has multiple room categories with a big distinction. The point chart is “fantastic”(cheap) for standard rooms, but Boardwalk view rooms are pretty comparable to other resorts. And that makes it hard to compare to resorts without multiple view categories (like CCV, OKW).

1 weekday October night studio:
Boardwalk Standard studio is a very cheap 14 points.
But Boardwalk view is 18 points — which is more than the 16 points for a preferred view at SSR. Only 1 point less than Savanna view at AKV (19 points). It’s 1 point more than the studios at CCV (17). It’s 1 point more than the studios at Beach Club (17 points).

I think that the other part that people may do is compare across resorts.

I don’t think you can do that when it comes to the points to dues ratio.

The cost to operate OKW is based on the size of its resort. Regardless of the point chart, those expenses are the same.

What the point chart does is help divide that total into pieces.

A 6.7 million dollar budget that is spread across 6.7 million points gives you $1 dues payment.

if that same resort had only 3,35 million dues are $2 a point.

IMO, I don’t think you can compare budgets at a different resort and then compare to the chart.

The more points in a chart for a resorts the less the dues will be per point for THAT resort.

Which, I think is part of the point you have tried to make.
 
You will get mail. It will also show up in your DVC online account before you get your magic mail and you will see people posting it here before the magic mail arrives.
 
Is there much speculation on the increase of dues for Aulani?

I think there was a recent tax increase passed. Do we think that will be rolled into dues or the TOT when we actually use points there.
 
Is there much speculation on the increase of dues for Aulani?

I think there was a recent tax increase passed. Do we think that will be rolled into dues or the TOT when we actually use points there.
Great question. Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me has an idea. Either way we will for sure pay for it, my gut says dues.
 
Is there much speculation on the increase of dues for Aulani?

I think there was a recent tax increase passed. Do we think that will be rolled into dues or the TOT when we actually use points there.
It’s an increase in the Transient Accommodations Tax that all hotel and timeshare guests pay in Hawaii. So it won’t be rolled into dues. That was an unusual situation with VGC.
 
1. Fort Wilderness Cabins: $11.88
2. OKW - $10.56
3. AKV - $9.65
4. BRV - $9.19
5. BCV - $9.13
6. BWV - $9.06
7. RIV - $9.06
8. SSR- $8.54
9. CCV - $8.49
10. BLT- $8.02
11. GFV - $7.93
12. Poly - $7.93

Fort Wilderness Cabins - 148
OKW - 190
AKV 195-242 midpoint of 219
SSR - 206-234 - midpoint of 220
BWV- 187-253 - midpoint of 220
CCV- 246
BRV- 248
BCV - 251
BLT 233 to 331 (mid point around 280)
RIV- 276- 356 (mid point of 316)
GFV 301-359 (midpoint 329)
poly - 292-396 (mid point of 344)
I see where you're going with this.

To min max this pattern, people should use their direct GFV and Poly points at FWC and OKW as much as possible! That's what I take away from this...lmao.
 
I think that the other part that people may do is compare across resorts.

I don’t think you can do that when it comes to the points to dues ratio.

The cost to operate OKW is based on the size of its resort. Regardless of the point chart, those expenses are the same.

What the point chart does is help divide that total into pieces.

A 6.7 million dollar budget that is spread across 6.7 million points gives you $1 dues payment.

if that same resort had only 3,35 million dues are $2 a point.

IMO, I don’t think you can compare budgets at a different resort and then compare to the chart.

The more points in a chart for a resorts the less the dues will be per point for THAT resort.

Which, I think is part of the point you have tried to make.

You are correct. But parts of the budget are fairly consistent.

Let’s say every resort had the same operating budget and the same point total points: dues would still vary based on property taxes.

Now take 2 resorts with the same operating budget, same number of rooms, but different point charts: Higher point chart = lower dues, and vice versa.

Finally, in the real world — budgets are not the same across resorts. So there are other additional factors. But many costs will be pretty consistent on a per room or per resort basis. (Though housekeeping will vary a bit based on common spaces, it should be pretty consistent on a per room basis). Which still creates a strong relationship between point charts and dues. Not a perfect correlation. But a strong relationship.
 








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