(2) Gosselin kids expelled from school for bullying

[karenos]

Not disagreeing- but there are 2 parents riding that gravy train....... People keep blaming Kate for the kids being in the spotlight.

Yes and quite possibly the divorce of the 2 parents is what drives the bullying behavior. It does affect children in different ways.

Just my 2 cents. I am not a huge fan of the show.
kareno

 

[mousetravel]

I'm waiting for Maddie & Cara's First Period Special.

Can't wait for special - The Gosselin Kids: The Teen Years

 

[C.Ann]

I am going to stay out of the j&k/exploitation debate...

But to answer your question about if it would be better since 2 are homeschooled, to homeschool all of them???

I used to think that way, but I have come across many families and lately some very large families, who do NOT homeschool all of the children for one reason or another. It is not uncommon to determine what is best for the individual child --

some families determine that kids will go to traditional school eventually
some families do only a kid or two at a time to start---honestly...to go from 0 to 60 mph and to not having considered homeschool to suddenly having a situation that necessitates that immediate decision...that is tough one child let alone 2 or 6 or all 8. When the decision comes suddenly--it is almost emergent in nature. So unless it was necessary, doing it for just those who got expelled makes the most sense, logistically.

Anyone curious as to how this will be accomplished can refer to www.hslda.com to loom up the legislation for Pennsylvania.

And just because they are "home"schooled, does not mean that Kate couldn't enroll them in any institution that caters to homeschoolers where all curriculum is provided (at a price) and even grading, testing, and record keepig is handled by that 3rd party. She can also "hire" a private tutor. The misconception about homeschooling is that the parents are the only ones who can teach and within the parameters of the law, that is not the case.

Example: I do NOT teach my child math. We utilize a reputable math program and she takes DVD classes. I monitor and guide her along, but I don't teach the concepts.

I plan on homeschooling all of my children---but the thought to suddenly have to teach 4 children the same grade on pretty much a whim would blow my mind. But we spend years working our way up to that.


Back to your discussions.

Thank you..

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Kate's Kids Expelled

Two of the 6-year-old Gosselin sextuplets are said to be having a rough time in their new school.

According to reports from In Touch, Collin and Alexis have been expelled from their Pennsylvania private school and are now being homeschooled.

"They've fought with their peers, called them nasty names and made fun of other kids," a source close to the family told the magazine. "The things they are saying are not words they should know. They are learning them somewhere -- but Jon [Gosselin, their dad] doesn't know where."

The source also said that some of the eight kids are having "rage issues" linked to filming on the new reality series, "Kate Plus 8."

Kate Gosselin Previously, one of the sextuplet girls had been suspended from school for two weeks after hitting a classmate, according to reports.

TLC had no comment. A source close to the situation, though, told The Post that mom Kate Gosselin's "number one concern is protecting her children and is keeping this personal situation as a private matter that she works out with her kids."

Last Sunday's special, "Kate Plus 8: Alaska Here We Come," drew only 1.33 million viewers, less than half the number that tuned in to earlier specials aired over the summer and nowhere near the almost 10 million viewers who tuned in at the height of the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" meltdown last year

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/kate_kids_expelled_dUDOUrU7MQzXw7Hnq6byBJ



Another article.

Why start now? Probably waiting for this juicy tidbit to run a special hoping to bring in more viewers. If we had to see the kids' poop, why shouldn't this be public fodder? Sorry, but when you sell your soul (and those of your children) to the devil, you don't get to pick and chose. You've made them public property, so don't be surprised when the public wants to know.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I would have loved to be on camera. Even now. Sadly, no one cares about a 3 person family, it's not "out there" enough.

Please don't take this in a bad way because I don't mean it that way, but I've been reading your posts for a few years now, and you and your family sound pretty "out there" to me. I imagine that anyone's life could be made into a reality show, though, with the right writers.

I agree with you though that there's no going back to a "regular" life for these people anytime soon. They're just too famous.

 

[Magic Mom]

Well, if the kids were expelled for being mopey doofus-es, then we'd be blaming Jon.

Good one!

 

[C.Ann]

Please don't take this in a bad way because I don't mean it that way, but I've been reading your posts for a few years now, and you and your family sound pretty "out there" to me. I imagine that anyone's life could be made into a reality show, though, with the right writers..

 

[Wishing on a star]

About the parents...

Hey, IT TAKES TWO...
And BOTH parents clearly have some serious issues.

Anybody who is pointing a finger at one parent, or finding any way to excuse the other is just wrong.

 

[C.Ann]

About the parents...

Hey, IT TAKES TWO...
And BOTH parents clearly have some serious issues.

Anybody who is pointing a finger at one parent, or finding any way to excuse the other is just wrong.

 

[PaulaSB12]

Cat, as a PP said, the Canadian kids you're talking about were the Dionne quintuplets. They were born to a poor family during the Depression, and it was their doctor who exploited them, not their parents. There was a made-for-TV movie produced about them 10 or 15 years ago.

They were conceived naturally, obviously, since I don't think the fertility drugs that create multiples were around in the 1930s. When the quints were born in their home, their parents summoned the town doctor who admitted them into a hospital.

They were such a sensation that the doctor found a way to sever their parents' rights so he could profit from them. My own parents grew up in the 1930s, and they told me that they sold dolls--paper and regular ones--and other products that had the Dionne quints name on them.

A lot of companies paid to be associated with them. At the time the TV movie was on, I worked for Unilever, and my coworkers and I got a kick out of seeing Lever Brothers soap featured in one part of the movie. Lever paid to have them endorse their soap as being the only one fine enough to wash the Dionne quints.

Their father became very bitter over their fate. He was upset that they were his children, but he was unable to profit from their fame. I forget what happened to him, but I don't think it was good, and I don't the children wound up with any money from all the endorsements either.

It's a fascinating story, I think. I wonder if any of them are still alive.

There are two left alive and the return to their family was not a happy one, it turned out that their father abused them and they all left home when they where 18.

 

[twinmomplus2new]

I don't agree that the first house was not appropriate, And I certainly feel the second house was very appropriate.
There was enough bedroom space and enough play space. Was it a mansion? Nope, didn't have to be.
IMOP A nice tall fence around the back yard and maybe a pool installed there and that house would have been just fine. There was no need to over extend and pretend your the Kennedy's and have a compound.
I grew up 7 children in a 1800 ( maybe) sq foot house with ONE yes, ONE bathroom. I am not buying the its not big enough for the kids stuff.
Kate snaps and bullies everyone around her from staff to friends to husband. Why would they not think it's ok to make snappish remarks?

As for the school. 6 year olds are quite capable of being bullies and being very nasty. I see it every day. and for every parent that says they are only 6. there is a parent of the child that is being picked on who is also saying. My 6 year old should not have to deal with this.
By six they certainly are aware that it is NEVER ok.... to hit, tease, push etc... And if they are doing it and not compling then absolutely they need to be removed from the classroom.

 

[kidshop]

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/111210-post-2-gosselin-kids-expelled-as-bullies


2 Gosselin Kids Expelled As Bullies

The New York Post says two of the Gosselin sextuplets were expelled from a Reading, Pa.-area school for bullying other six-year-old students.

Two of the 6-year-old sextuplets, Collin and Alexis, allegedly have been expelled from their private school in Pennsylvania and are now being homeschooled, said the Post and In Touch magazine.

The Post talked to a source who said mother Kate Gosselin is trying to keep the situation out of the media so she can deal with it privately.

In Touch magazine first reported the latest incident involving the two reality TV children, who were showcased on TLC’s “John & Kate Plus 8” and its successor show, “Kate Plus 8” for three years.

Kids who are homeschooled can be filmed all the time year round. Kate will deal with it privately...on her reality show about her kids lives........


It's only the beginning. Those dollar signs er,kids never had a chance with Kate and Jon as parents.

 

[pigletgirl]

Wow, I have no words. Those poor kids are wrecked forever.

 

[RitaZ.]

Children model their parents' behavior. I feel badly for those children. They have two nincompoops for parents.

 

[woodkins]

We also need to keep in mind that it being a private school a student can be dismissed for any reason they want. The other parents could be sick of the paparazzi coming around the campus, the 2 that were "expelled" could have learning issues that the school can't handle and this is the reasoning. Public schools are required to meet reasons for dismissal, private schools can be arbitrary.

 

[Agri]

Those kids have grown up having extra people in their lives and none of them trained to deal with kids. Aside from their parents' divorce being in the media, I'm sure the camera operators didn't always keep their lips sealed around the kids. They've had one heck of a year and different kids deal with stress in different ways - it doesn't necessarily have to do with how the parents act.

Neither parent is going to be up for a model parent of the year award, so who knows which parent was the "bully" example.

 

[pigletgirl]

So if Collin and Alexis were not being aggresive, then why choose those 2? Maybe for their big personalities?

Their only option really now is homeschool. But that is inconvienent for Kate and Jon so of course that won't happen.

 

[laurie31]

Can't wait for special - The Gosselin Kids: The Teen Years

This reminded me that the McCaughey septuplets (born November 19, 1997) are about to turn 13. I wonder how they're all doing. It seems their parents have done a better job than Kate and Jon.

I had to turn off the whale-watching ep because I was getting knots in my stomach watching Kate with the kids. I would have been overwhelmed with 8 kids on a boat, too, but wow.

And while I doubt there's a kid out there who was a perfect angel throughout their childhoods, and certainly not every kid who shoves someone down when they're 3 has a horrible mom (or dad), watching the way Kate behaves on the show...even if it is just edited to be sensationalistic, it's happening enough to be an example to the kids. How can they help but model their behavior after hers. That's what kids do. It's not just losing her temper, it's her attitude overall. She seems like such a prima dona. I feel sorry for the children.

 

[walden]

Well, shoot! I leaned about this on Wed. I have an internet feed on Gosselin media stuff because I am interested in the legal issues on filming children. I've been keeping my mouth shut on this issue for two whole days because I really don't think that rumors of any child's expulsion from school should be internet fodder. Even here on the Dis!

I now think this story is real, not just rumor, and that 2 Gosselin sextuplets have been expelled from their private school. That is incredibly sad. The lack of denial of the story from both Jon and Kate's versions of Gosselinland seems to imply that it is true. And then there is some photographic evidence of the 2 not in school uniform.

Behavioral problems and/or rage issues seem to be the cause of the expulsions of the two. Are the behavioral problems due to filming, the divorce, or inadequate and bad parenting? I'd guess all three. But I'd argue that no child who has behavioral issues large enough to be expelled from a generally accepted as "good" if not "very good" private school should be left in privacy without filming while they get therapy.

So sad.

 

[mhsjax]

Agree 100%.

And it's my understanding, from what I've read (Yes, this woman annoys the crap out of me....yet I'm bizarrely fascinated by her) she isn't well liked, in the community.

I'd put money on it having been another parent, leaking it.

I now understand why my mother AND grandma watched TV shows, that they would yell at the TV, about. It confused me. Why are you watching somehting that makes you mad??? I guess I inherited that gene.

I feel the exact same way. I am bizarrely fascinated by her. I have never been able to describe the way I felt, but that sums it up.