$130 point for BLT

[jcf]

Unbelievable from what I was told...Dec 1...

 

[nolanboys]

Wow!!!

 

[lisaviolet]

Wow. Interesting. Makes me wonder if they really are going to implement some kind of resale clause because - with such low resale prices - they are seeming oh so weirdly cocky at this moment. I never gave that potential change the time of day in my head. But now if it's not something like that - well they've gone cuckoo. Hmmmm.

So strange - especially the SSR increase.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

really? [ who told you ?]

anyhoo, here's my guess....however, if the source was incorrect then
it doesn't matter but,


if the source is in~deeds correct, not so crazy!, by my observations.

*we're new @ this game. been learning thru rough experiences &
from others. [ like the owner ripped off by a renter charging
$1400 & skipping out. ]

i could be wrong, but there seem to be quite a few dvc workers
using these boards.

dvc has the power to make changes. if this is true, i don't think they
are going to try to alter the resales market. instead, institute some
specific benefits/or rules to those buying direct from disney, separating
the 2 groups. i think mostly to keep their own market more desirable
& to make more $. with so many similar, "unofficial" sites, sharing
info., is probably not "wasted" on those wanting to keep their
jobs @ the dvc offices.

i also think with rapid growth & dvc reaching such high numbers in
resales & their own sales, has an impact on management- especially
preserving their realm. [ for example, to us, there is no other time-
shares than the dvc. we have no problem with spending 60 years
@ wdw & @ our home resort. ]

also i don't think it is lost, how many taunted guides about how much
they saved by dropping them & going resales. just by observing the
"trends" of new owners that went thru disney vs resales, it is over-
whelming- who going after the 7mos switch. [ funny, one poster that
bragged about resales, is now upset being stuck @ their "home"
for the holidays..hymm, sometimes you get what you pay for?~ instead
of having & eating your cake @ the same time. even though they
claimed they are ok with their home site, they obvious seeking the
wait-list. sorta the old adage of actions speaking louder than words.]

so if this is more than a prediction, then i think one can assume there
are going to new changes that will make the $130 a better bargain
then resales. after all disney is a business that pay those behind the
magic, to protect their interests & especially the bottom line.

anyhoo, that's what i think ...not so crazy! , the dvc management.

 

[nunzia]

Wow. Interesting. Makes me wonder if they really are going to implement some kind of resale clause because - with such low resale prices - they are seeming oh so weirdly cocky at this moment. I never gave that potential change the time of day in my head. But now if it's not something like that - well they've gone cuckoo. Hmmmm.

So strange - especially the SSR increase.

agreed
They have something up their sleeve...(insert evil laugh)

 

[Coach81]

*gulp*

 

[cseca]

 

[MasonDuo]

This really bugs me. I know Disney "owns the world" and hasn't had as much rough times as everyone else but how do they justify this increase? Didn't the cost of points just go up around June-ish? It seems that they are pricing regular families out of the DVC program especially when with BLT's points per night and now how much they are charging for points.

Now I'm really curious to see what is going to be rolling out with these increases. I think you all are on the right scent that resale purchases are going to take a hit somewhere. Hopefully someone can get the low-down and find out what is going on.

 

[ChiSoxKeith]

They just raised the price to $120 per point recently. I doubt they will up it again. Unless sales are going through the rough.....which doesn't seem likely.

 

[tjkraz]

This really bugs me. I know Disney "owns the world" and hasn't had as much rough times as everyone else but how do they justify this increase? Didn't the cost of points just go up around June-ish? It seems that they are pricing regular families out of the DVC program especially when with BLT's points per night and now how much they are charging for points.

"Regular families" are priced out of Lamborghinis, too, but that doesn't keep us from buying cars. There are always options and I don't see why Disney should feel obligated to make DVC affordable to all.

Disney will charge what the market can bear. If sales drop, they'll be forced to re-think their pricing and add more incentives.

DVD has a lot invested in the Bay Lake Tower. It has a prime location just outside the Magic Kingdom's gates and they only have ONE opportunity to sell it for the next 50 years. Honestly I can't blame them for trying to maximize the return.

 

[wdrl]

Would DVC members be happier to hear that the price of BLT is dropping to $80 a point? Actually, I view this price increase as generally good news. Disney should be happy because it should make more money. Resale agents like the Timeshare Store should also be happy because it makes their resale contracts more attractive, resulting in more commissions. Current owners of BLT should be happy because we are glad that we bought BLT when the price was lower. And BLT owners who are wanting to sell should be happy because they might be able to demand a slightly higher price.

As for potential buyers who may now buy in at a higher price, well, keep in mind we are all volunteers. None of us are forced to buy into the DVC, nor are we forced to buy into DVC at $130 a point. But even at $130/point, ownership of BLT can make sense. In March 2010, we stayed 7 nights in an MK view studio for 183 points. The CRO cash rate for that stay was $4646.00, including tax. At $130/point, it might take me two or three more trips to "recover" my purchase price than when the price was $104 or $120/point, but a DVC membership can still make sense.

 

[jcf]

Dec 1...
It's about the money not the "magic" with Disney...those days are long gone...

 

[Tara]

Dec 1...
It's about the money not the "magic" with Disney...those days are long gone...

Frankly, magic doesn't pay salaries and stockholder dividends. If the market can bear it, the price will go up. Like any other highly diversified company, Disney has to maximize any profit opportunity in one subsidiary to offset lesser opportunities or losses in another, or to offset lean/bad years in the same subsidiary. Make hay while the sun shines, my grandfather used to say.

 

[Harlemgirl720]

Glad we bought when we did.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Frankly, magic doesn't pay salaries and stockholder dividends. If the market can bear it, the price will go up. Like any other highly diversified company, Disney has to maximize any profit opportunity in one subsidiary to offset lesser opportunities or losses in another, or to offset lean/bad years in the same subsidiary. Make hay while the sun shines, my grandfather used to say.

I don't think this is the reason for the price increase. If its sales they want, they aren't going to generate an unexpected flood of them due to these price increases. No, something else must be on the horizon....

 

[JimMIA]

I wouldn't read too much into this -- if it in fact proves to be true.

I think Tim hit it right on the head if the rumor is true. DVC will raise the price for a very simple reason...because they can.

 

[fflmaster]

Ok, tell me why i should care that the price will increase to 130 per point?

i bought back in 2002 for 70 per point and unless i want to sell my points or buy more points i don't see this being an issue.

am i missing something for the dvc owners that are not in the market to sell/buy?

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I wouldn't read too much into this -- if it in fact proves to be true.

I think Tim hit it right on the head if the rumor is true. DVC will raise the price for a very simple reason...because they can.

What rumor? Disney always does something for a reason. I don't buy the "because they can". These are substantial price increases. The economy has not turned around on a dime that I'm aware of. These prices will not generate extra sales. They will pull in more revenue on current sales interest. Lets try to think outside of the box......

 

[tjkraz]

What rumor? Disney always does something for a reason. I don't buy the "because they can". These are substantial price increases. The economy has not turned around on a dime that I'm aware of. These prices will not generate extra sales. They will pull in more revenue on current sales interest. Lets try to think outside of the box......

The reason "because we want to make more money" is certainly sufficient.

I think you're making too much of the economy. I won't pretend that the economy hasn't struggled over the last two years but there are hundreds-of-millions of Americans (and even more abroad) whose financial condition has not worsened over that time.

Disney has raised park ticket prices and room rates each of the last 2 years despite the state of the economy--a move which impacts far more customers over a wider range of economic classes.

I don't think DVC is going to let the unemployment rate determine its pricing.