13 Year old gir declared brain dead has now officially died

[hereyago]

OMG. This school is a joke. Now I am so sad for a whole group of kids, too. Telling students "Jahi may still be alive" shows that this is not a school where you can expect to learn science. As a teacher, I would NEVER go along with this, no matter what parents wanted. What a disservice to the education of children.

I was so horrified I decided to look up this school's test scores. They are disgusting. 30% of students proficient or advanced in language arts, 35% in math. It ranked a 1 on a scale of 1-10 by the State. I teach in Southern California, in a school that is 85% minority, with a large percentage of English learners, so I know about teaching students in poverty. I am just horrified.

It's a charter school right? Their charter needs to be revoked with scores like that. Just sayn.....

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I haven't read the article so my comments are only based on what you wrote. I'm guessing this is front page news in their community so the school has to address it somehow. They are certainly in a predicament. If they have some type of memorial for their deceased student, they will then have to explain their position to these kids why they believe she is dead but still being kept "alive" at an undisclosed location. Is that really something the school wants to get involved in? I'm guessing it is much easier for them to hand out shirts showing that they are in her corner without being too committal one way or the other. I doubt the school wants to have some big debate on if she is really dead or alive and if the type of care the family has chosen is the right way. This definitely isn't something they are teaching in the common core!

When 9/11 happened my kids were in 8th, 6th and 3rd grade. Don't recall what the middle school did but I remember getting a letter home from the elementary school that day saying something to the effect that they wouldn't address it in class and that it was up to the parents to decide to what extent it was discussed at home. It might have been a school system decision that affected middle school too...don't recall. But that's what I think should happen at Jahi's school. Leave it up to the parents, period. "We miss Jahi, but if you have any questions, ask your parents." Any type of memorial (for a "live" person?) or candlelight vigil or anything else should come from the community (as we did in our town for 9/11) and it would be up to the parents to let their children attend or not. This isn't just a dead child that the other kids have to deal with losing...everything about it is controversial. The school shouldn't be discussing it or feeding the kids any information or opinions, either way. Geez!

 

[Feralpeg]

Here is an article by a mom whose son has been treated at Children's Hospital and Research Center Oakland. She paints the hospital and staff as caring and professional. Sadly, bad things can happen anywhere, but it seems that this hospital is getting a bad rap with no way to defend its position due to the gag order.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/today...tory_b_4568882.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

 

[hereyago]

I haven't read the article so my comments are only based on what you wrote. I'm guessing this is front page news in their community so the school has to address it somehow. They are certainly in a predicament. If they have some type of memorial for their deceased student, they will then have to explain their position to these kids why they believe she is dead but still being kept "alive" at an undisclosed location. Is that really something the school wants to get involved in? I'm guessing it is much easier for them to hand out shirts showing that they are in her corner without being too committal one way or the other. I doubt the school wants to have some big debate on if she is really dead or alive and if the type of care the family has chosen is the right way. This definitely isn't something they are teaching in the common core!

As a parent, I would be hot as well, a hornet if this was my kid's school.

The school doesn't have to get into a big discussion, it's not their place to discuss that. Now I can see a memorial moment of silence, grief counselors. But the school is doing the kids a disservice. Everyone needs closure.

You can't sacrifice a school of kids to coddle the mother.

 

[LisaR]

When 9/11 happened my kids were in 8th, 6th and 3rd grade. Don't recall what the middle school did but I remember getting a letter home from the elementary school that day saying something to the effect that they wouldn't address it in class and that it was up to the parents to decide to what extent it was discussed at home. It might have been a school system decision that affected middle school too...don't recall. But that's what I think should happen at Jahi's school. Leave it up to the parents, period. "We miss Jahi, but if you have any questions, ask your parents." Any type of memorial (for a "live" person?) or candlelight vigil or anything else should come from the community (as we did in our town for 9/11) and it would be up to the parents to let their children attend or not. This isn't just a dead child that the other kids have to deal with losing...everything about it is controversial. The school shouldn't be discussing it or feeding the kids any information or opinions, either way. Geez!

Given the options, I definitely think the school would have been better off not addressing it and leaving it up to the parents. Handing out shirts is bizarre! But, I'm guessing this school district is in an area where parental involvement is pretty low. I think they probably feel like they are in a jam. Could Jahi "live" in this facility for an extended period of time? If the school says she's dead and the students hear that she is "alive" now they'll have some explaining to do and that is likely a conversation they don't want to enter into. The entire thing is so strange and it just goes to show how the actions of the family are impacting others.

 

[hereyago]

Jahi's younger half brother goes to the school, but still you think someone in that family could come back to reality.

The Team Jahi shirt, I am not sure who thought of it, but I do know her media loving uncle was wearing one with a news conference with the slimy lawyer(not saying all are slimy, but you know he oozes slimy).

 

[LisaR]

As a parent, I would be hot as well, a hornet if this was my kid's school.

The school doesn't have to get into a big discussion, it's not their place to discuss that. Now I can see a memorial moment of silence, grief counselors. But the school is doing the kids a disservice. Everyone needs closure.

You can't sacrifice a school of kids to coddle the mother.

I don't disagree at all, but it is hard to tell kids (who aren't yours) that she is dead and it is time to move on when they are hearing that she might be alive. As you can see from the comment sections in some of the articles that have been linked here and FB comments, there are many people who feel she is alive. It has to be difficult for the school to say she is dead and provide closure for the kids if some are being told she is in a place that will help her.

 

[hereyago]

I don't disagree at all, but it is hard to tell kids (who aren't yours) that she is dead and it is time to move on when they are hearing that she might be alive. As you can see from the comment sections in some of the articles that have been linked here and FB comments.

Omg, I know. Even on the gofundme accounts, someone had set up another one for her,not sure which one came first. these people giving their money, not sure if they think it's like Terri Schaivo's case or that she will be resurrected. It's great to believe in a higher power, but I don't think that higher power wants you to be a unrealistic jack wagon, lol.

 

[crayon3448]

I am an RN, I take offense to people saying an LPN is less skilled or has less knowledge because it really depends on the LPN. While their training is I think a year, which is a lot shorter than that of an RN, their actual skill level and level of their nursing care is based on their ON THE JOB training and years of experience. Like all nurses, the bulk of your learning takes place on the job.

Completely agree. I'm an RN and am sure there are many many LPNs who are more medically skilled- the only time I ever have "worked" at a medical hospital was during nursing school, I have done psych ever since.

 

[Viva Las Disney]

The school shouldn't be discussing it or feeding the kids any information or opinions, either way. Geez!

This is a no win situation for the school, they should have done everything possible to avoid it completely but if her brother goes to the school it may have been impossible to ignore. Even with a son in the school they shouldn't have taken a position on life or death, they should have said they can't comment because it's a private matter and that everyone should support the family.

It's great to believe in a higher power, but I don't think that higher power wants you to be a unrealistic jack wagon, lol.

This is how I feel also, I believe in a higher power but IMHO at this point they are just denying reality and using miracles as an excuse. If they really believe they should accept that she's gone and in a better place.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

On an interesting aside, Ariel Sharon, somebody the family has used as an example (even though the cases were totally different) passed away today.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20774775,00.html

 

[barkley]

Here is an article by a mom whose son has been treated at Children's Hospital and Research Center Oakland. She paints the hospital and staff as caring and professional. Sadly, bad things can happen anywhere, but it seems that this hospital is getting a bad rap with no way to defend its position due to the gag order.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/today...tory_b_4568882.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

I read the article and I will echo the author's perspective-we had the same excellent treatment from children's Oakland.

with both dd and ds as infants their pediatrician thought their might be an issue (orthopedic w/dd, cystic fibrosis w/ds). we were in an hmo, and when the doctor found out how long it would take to get testing/results from one of the in-network providers she immediately got us a referral to children's. we had appointments within a week. in both situations the staff was professional and VERY kind. they went to the extent of pulling in other specialists (who we were not schedualed to see that day) to confirm testing results because (as they put it) 'we don't want to send you home wondering, you came here to get an answer-our answer will not be to wait a couple of weeks for a phone call with the results' they truly care for the family as a whole. what I've read in the media about them appalls me.

we've had experiences with both children's Oakland and the shriner's hospital system-both have been exemplary.

 

[disneykidatheart]

Pretty in Pink Birmingham Al on the road to recovery for Jahi



I found this link on the nurses page. It is a new facebook page. It was closed at first but is now open as long as you don't make distasteful, upjectful, (not my word), comments.

They are thinking a trip to Disney for the whole family after Jahi recovers is in order through Make a Wish foundation. Each day brings a new chapter. Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

 

[luvsJack]

Jahi's younger half brother goes to the school, but still you think someone in that family could come back to reality.

The Team Jahi shirt, I am not sure who thought of it, but I do know her media loving uncle was wearing one with a news conference with the slimy lawyer(not saying all are slimy, but you know he oozes slimy).

I agree with you about the shirts.

They couldn't just tell this boy that his family is wrong and his sister is dead.

Personally, I think they should have not addressed it at all. But, maybe have someone available for the half brother to talk to. Not to try and convince him of anything, just to let me talk and mourn or get out his anger or whatever the poor kid is going through right now.

 

[mom2rtk]

Pretty in Pink Birmingham Al on the road to recovery for Jahi



I found this link on the nurses page. It is a new facebook page. It was closed at first but is now open as long as you don't make distasteful, upjectful, (not my word), comments.

They are thinking a trip to Disney for the whole family after Jahi recovers is in order through Make a Wish foundation. Each day brings a new chapter. Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

That is all kinds of messed up.

 

[LisaR]

Pretty in Pink Birmingham Al on the road to recovery for Jahi



I found this link on the nurses page. It is a new facebook page. It was closed at first but is now open as long as you don't make distasteful, upjectful, (not my word), comments.

They are thinking a trip to Disney for the whole family after Jahi recovers is in order through Make a Wish foundation. Each day brings a new chapter. Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

This is an idea someone posted from that FB page:

I saw this on Pinterest. I thought it might be awesome for us in this group to find twigs in our yard or neighborhood and each make one for Jahi. Even if you made a small one she would have all sizes that are lightweight that could be hung from the ceiling of her room
They would blow gently in the wind when a fan was on or window open. What ya'll
Think? Even not painted each one would be unique and heartfelt. If you make a small one you could just use nail
Polish on the twigs. Picture hanging wire would easily twist around and hold it together. If we decided to do this we could set a deadline of February 1 to get them in the mail to me ... I would be Willing to send them
All in one box to her attorneys office. I'm sure he could get them to her. Just a thought.

So the concept here is to hang painted twigs from her ceiling so she could presumably watch them twirl around.......... Am I reading too much into this? Why else would one hang things from a ceiling? I just.....I can't......

 

[Tozzie]

This is an idea someone posted from that FB page:

I saw this on Pinterest. I thought it might be awesome for us in this group to find twigs in our yard or neighborhood and each make one for Jahi. Even if you made a small one she would have all sizes that are lightweight that could be hung from the ceiling of her room
They would blow gently in the wind when a fan was on or window open. What ya'll
Think? Even not painted each one would be unique and heartfelt. If you make a small one you could just use nail
Polish on the twigs. Picture hanging wire would easily twist around and hold it together. If we decided to do this we could set a deadline of February 1 to get them in the mail to me ... I would be Willing to send them
All in one box to her attorneys office. I'm sure he could get them to her. Just a thought.

So the concept here is to hang painted twigs from her ceiling so she could presumably watch them twirl around.......... Am I reading too much into this? Why else would one hang things from a ceiling? I just.....I can't......

I can't believe there are that many cucoo people that actually believe she is going to rise from the dead, that feat has't ben accomplished in over 2000 years.

 

[hereyago]

So the concept here is to hang painted twigs from her ceiling so she could presumably watch them twirl around.......... Am I reading too much into this? Why else would one hang things from a ceiling? I just.....I can't......

I think we are in a Twighlight Zone

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I think we are in a Twighlight Zone

Yes, officially, we have now entered the Twilight Zone with that FB page. I'm ALMOST speechless.

 

[Silly Little Pixie]

The school should not have said anything, and left it up to parents to discuss. Period.

I can't recall a school year when I didn't have at least one student who experienced the death of a family member. So now the school has said, "well the doctors say she's dead but if you pray and make shirts maybe she'll come back."

Can you imagine the tremendous guilt some kids will have when Grandma dies? "If only I had prayed more, been more faithful she wouldn't have died." "My family just let Uncle Jim die after his car accident, when they turned off the machine."

This is why schools need educators in charge, and not business people with no credentials.