12/09/06 Cruise Continued ~ Pirating Bananas DIS Geekorama Part 2 Part 8

[lbgraves]

They have those classes in PA...but they spend most of the day in the "regular" room. They feel they need to be around "normal" kids to learn to behave appropriatly. Usually, they have an aid. Since the kid is only in K, they may be working on that for him...I do not know specifically about Lisa's DD's situation...but I know this happens all over. I am very interested to see what Lisa has to say after her morning at school.

DD is in first grade.

 

[tynkerbell]

As I said before, I think that this year's show has more well known stars who have big fan bases. Sara's is the country market. Jerry's is also his fan base. In the past there have only been a couple big stars.

Speaking of which, look what I just read---

LOS ANGELES, October 12, 2006 - Eyewitness News has confirmed that Sara Evans a contestant from the ABC show 'Dancing With The Stars' will be leaving.

Evans has not explained her reasoning for leaving the show, but she will make an apperance on Tuesday's show to explain her departure. The show airs at 8pm on ABC7.

I wonder why she quit.

 

[MMcCarthy]

There are a total of 21 other kids who need to run out of the classroom when this child picks of a chair or gets upset.

They had a BED class last year but do not this year. That is where these kids went.

I know I may get thrashed for this but here it goes. I work with people with developmental disabilities. Our vision is to see everyone living, working, learning, and playing in the community they choose. I know that it is frustrating having a child in the class that acts up. I also know that the school is by law to supply aides to this child so that he can stay in the classroom for as much as the time as he is able. The child sounds like he has some very real problems. Unfortunately at that age the doctors, parents, and teachers don't always know what is the best learning environment for him. hopefully they will figure it out real soon. In our school district the children who have developmental disabilities are placed in the most inclusive environment possible. It is not always possible for a child to learn in a regular classroom. Also unfortunately, most kids the age of your dd have not had all the testing done to help determine where that child should be placed. I know you have met with people at the school. is there a special education specialist there? If not, find out who in your district is in charge of special education. this situation should not be tolerated by you as a parent, your child as a student, the teacher, or the child with the disability. Our meetings to determine placement for children going into the regular classroom for the first time do not occur until october unless the child was in early intervention. hang in there Lisa. tell your daughter to stay away from the child and encourage her to speak to the teacher, principal, and any other adult at school if she feels the least bit frightened by this child. Good luck

 

[Jhalkias]

Does this boy have a physical or mental disability? We have had some situations similar to this with some disabled children. Legally you need to go through some pretty strict channels with lots of paper work to move them. If he doesn't have any disabilities...I don't understand that.

This is an example of what I was talking about earlier . . .

There is so much that can be going on that the average parent is unaware of - and it is getting to the point that a five year old knows their "rights". Teachers and administrators can be trapped in the middle - with parents of the other kids demanding action that maybe they legally can't take, and legally cannot discuss.

That doesn't mean that anyone should tolerate things happening in school that are contrary to school policy - quite the contrary. But some people tend to jump so quickly. My neighbor had a bussing issue - I am the school board president - did he call me? NO. He chose to write a letter to the editor instead. So I paid him a visit, talked to him, contacted our administration, and found a reasonable and fair solution. No need for a letter to the editor - and one that threatened to vote against our levy.

Our schools can only become better if we all contribute to solving problems and working together (not saying any of the comments on these issues meant you did not do that). All too often I see parents focus just on THEIR issue, and not see or get the big picture.

Public education seems to be under attack in America, and that is sad. At the same time, public education is somehow expected to raise the children as well as educate them - that is not their job.

I also get chagrined when I hear people say they will take their children elsewhere. We can all see the effects (especially in the urban centers) when good families leave the schools, and leave the kids who don't have the option behind.

Too often when they talk about "no child left behind" it is not the school that left them behind - but rather the community. We are blessed in our community - while not perfect, we have a great diversity of economics, racial, ethnicity, and religions. We have the wealthiest kids, the poorest kids, and all in-between. Believe it or not, the poor kids, and other kids that need help are raised up by the other kids from good families - they have good examples to look up to, and pattern.

I guess the bottom line of what I am trying to say is work together! Don't just get angry and react - work together as a partner to solve the problem. Be a part of the solution. If no one wants to solve the problem, then take the measures you feel you have to.

Our society needs less division and more cohesion if our children are going to grow up in a world where they can understand each other and solve problems.

Sorry for the book. I am rather passionate about public education - I feel it is one of the shining aspects of our society - allowing the poorest and humblest child the same opportunity as others. We can't lose that!

Hope you understand that I agree with you guys that bad situations deserve immediate attention - in fact we have a zero tolerance policy on weapons and threats in our schools - a child would be immediately suspended for bringing a knife to school - an unloaded gun - would be immediate expulsion.

Like Dody said, you have to wonder what it is like at home for these kids, and what they must be exposed to every day.

John1

 

[MrsMork]

I wonder if DH can rent a military dress uniform when he rents his pirate costume?

More pricing going to be happening!

 

[Jhalkias]

Also I've been boo'ed but I don't have the time to add it to my sig so just imagine the dancing pumpkin is there please.....

Amy,

Can you fix this for Carla?

John1

 

[lbgraves]

okay...sipping wine....sipping....sippping

Thanks for letting me rant. I knew I could come to you guys.
Have I told you guys lately how glad I am that you're here?!!

Sipping it thru a big straw, right? This is crazy and you have every right to be upset. A teacher needs to have good communication with the students as well as the parents especially still in 3rd grade.

 

[lbgraves]

Okay finally home. Today was one of the worst days @ work. I can't belive bosses can be so lazy and lame. Mine decided he would work in the office for 90 minutes today but was having problems with his email. he uses a different provider than the rest of us and I was not able to figure out what was going wrong. After 90 minutes, I told him I had to go do the office administratives job (weekly check run) because she is out with family issues. Well that was not good enough he comes and gets me while I am trying to do a 187 check check run. he finally leaves but in walks the development director who has been trying to get our boss to look over some fund raising letters. I told him I was not able to figure out what was going on with boss's computer. He then proceeds to call my name every 10 minutes to come watch him email the letters to dear old boss. the check run is still only about half done. the dev dir finally leaves for a lunch meeting & I get to finish printing the check run over lunch. Oh and by the way we have a volunteer in the office who needs to be directed what to do every 30 minutes. I did not get the check run in the mail until 3:30. dear old boss called me three more times because his email still is not working the same as it was yesterday. and to top everything off, I forgot to call in payroll. I know that should be the one thing I never forget but with everything else going on I just plumb forgot. Hopefully tomorrow will be better. I know it will be colder. I was suppose to play softball tomorrow but I just emailed the coach and said no go. I hope they have enough players but I am not going to risk reinjurying my back prior to the cruise.

Becka thanks for letting me know how many days. I just keep forgetting. It seems too long away.

 

[goofyforlife]

Sipping it thru a big straw, right?

McDonalds has real big straws......

 

[lbgraves]

Another bad week for everyone??

I hope this trend stops soon!!

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This one IS a little creepy though!

Yes, DD is going over the edge...or driving me there. I know that whatever is happening in the classroom is affecting her but calling DH & I idiots and telling us to shutup when we tell her to do something is totally unacceptable. She missed soccer practice last night & went into time out tonight.

 

[Jhalkias]

God help the person who might want to complain about the behavior of some of our kids. They will have to endure the wrath of the DIS - including John1's scary look!

You got that right!

And when I do it to adults, I MEAN it!

John1

 

[MMcCarthy]

I watched CSI with my daughter tonight and they did something so different from usual and very cool. at the end of the show, the CSI people were all talking about why these kids were beating the daylights out of victims. all of them had a different reason for why they thought the kids grew up the way they did. they concluded by saying a lot about how our society does not always teach kids right from wrong. society basically tells them that everything, even murder, is tolerated. I really thought it was neat the way they were trying to teach the viewers why what happened on their show should not be tolerated. I have never seen this show try to do that but I hope they continue it. DD & DS really enjoy watching the show and I am thrilled that they are not doing a lot of sexual things this season. I hope they keep it up.

Warn me if you are going to give up anything about GA. It repeats tomorrow night around here and I am going to make an effort to see it.

well its off to bed for me. tomorrow is a new day, friday, one more day closer to paradise.

 

[lbgraves]

Oh, he kept it pointed in the potty every time today (sometimes other areas are sprayed instead)

Enjoy it when it happens. DS started out being very accurate but lately he has been extremely careless. I have to wipe down the toilet, floor, walls almost every time.

 

[lbgraves]

Maybe I can make you guys laugh a little. At dinner DD has her sippy cup and she pushes it where it starts to roll off the end. I stand up and reach over to try to get it but it falls in the chair. I then walk around to the chair and lean over to pick it up when my foot hits the bottom of the chair and I tip forward. My hand then slips off the cup and jams right in the back of the chair with two of my fingers going directions that God did not intend. I keep falling and end up slamming my forearm into the back of the chair and just about spin around and fall right into the window. It all happened in about 2 seconds and I can assure you I was quite graceful!

It apparently looked so scary that DD started to cry and it took me almost a minute trying to calm her down and assure her I was OK all the while I was trying not to hop around screaming "Ow ow ow ow ow..." because I didn't want to scare her anymore than she already was.

I am such a klutz!

Becka, what kind of sick people do you think we are? IDK who would laugh at that. Glad that you are OK.

 

[Jhalkias]

Have you guys heard the Dis is making Thread Clouds????? Wonder what they could be?!! Wonder what ours will say!

Raining posts.

John1

 

[MrsMork]

Sipping it thru a big straw, right? This is crazy and you have every right to be upset. A teacher needs to have good communication with the students as well as the parents especially still in 3rd grade.

Our DS had a bad (yes bad) 3rd grade teacher. By the time he went into 4th his self esteem was destroyed and he was a year behind. This is a kid with above intelligence. Thankfully, he had excellent teachers the next 4 years who helped us rebuild the self esteem and get him caught up and ahead in his studies. I'll tell you, I was one frustrated parent!

 

[lbgraves]

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[lbgraves]

OMG!!!! ROFLMAOPIMP!!!!

That one is better than the giant bananas!

 

[MrsMork]

This is an example of what I was talking about earlier . . .

There is so much that can be going on that the average parent is unaware of - and it is getting to the point that a five year old knows their "rights". Teachers and administrators can be trapped in the middle - with parents of the other kids demanding action that maybe they legally can't take, and legally cannot discuss.

That doesn't mean that anyone should tolerate things happening in school that are contrary to school policy - quite the contrary. But some people tend to jump so quickly. My neighbor had a bussing issue - I am the school board president - did he call me? NO. He chose to write a letter to the editor instead. So I paid him a visit, talked to him, contacted our administration, and found a reasonable and fair solution. No need for a letter to the editor - and one that threatened to vote against our levy.

Our schools can only become better if we all contribute to solving problems and working together (not saying any of the comments on these issues meant you did not do that). All too often I see parents focus just on THEIR issue, and not see or get the big picture.

Public education seems to be under attack in America, and that is sad. At the same time, public education is somehow expected to raise the children as well as educate them - that is not their job.

I also get chagrined when I hear people say they will take their children elsewhere. We can all see the effects (especially in the urban centers) when good families leave the schools, and leave the kids who don't have the option behind.

Too often when they talk about "no child left behind" it is not the school that left them behind - but rather the community. We are blessed in our community - while not perfect, we have a great diversity of economics, racial, ethnicity, and religions. We have the wealthiest kids, the poorest kids, and all in-between. Believe it or not, the poor kids, and other kids that need help are raised up by the other kids from good families - they have good examples to look up to, and pattern.

I guess the bottom line of what I am trying to say is work together! Don't just get angry and react - work together as a partner to solve the problem. Be a part of the solution. If no one wants to solve the problem, then take the measures you feel you have to.

Our society needs less division and more cohesion if our children are going to grow up in a world where they can understand each other and solve problems.

Sorry for the book. I am rather passionate about public education - I feel it is one of the shining aspects of our society - allowing the poorest and humblest child the same opportunity as others. We can't lose that!

Hope you understand that I agree with you guys that bad situations deserve immediate attention - in fact we have a zero tolerance policy on weapons and threats in our schools - a child would be immediately suspended for bringing a knife to school - an unloaded gun - would be immediate expulsion.

Like Dody said, you have to wonder what it is like at home for these kids, and what they must be exposed to every day.

John1

John1, while I agree with what you are saying...when it comes to my kids' safety or some other kids need/right to be in a public classroom, sorry the other kid is not my concern. A chair IS a weapon and head injuries are very difficult if not impossible to cure. I see these at work every single day. If the laws require a child to stay in this kind of environment and be at risk of injury at the hands of another, then yes my kid comes out of that school and is home schooled.

 

[MMcCarthy]

Yes, DD is going over the edge...or driving me there. I know that whatever is happening in the classroom is affecting her but calling DH & I idiots and telling us to shutup when we tell her to do something is totally unacceptable. She missed soccer practice last night & went into time out tonight.

I know this might not float with some people but it may be time to call in the counselor at school. they are most trained to deal with stuff like this. although if you were at my school, I would tell you not to bother with her. my DS had a very hard time with a girl in his class. our school district has a no bullying stance which most do. however this girl was the biggest bully I know of. she would hit DS and call him names and pester him all during the bus ride. I tried talking to the teacher, I tried talking to the principal, I even tried talking to the counselor. she did sit the two of them down and explain why the little girl should not be picking on my DS who had a good 15 pounds and four inches on her. it did not work. I finally told him he had a choice:1. we could switch classes so that he could avoid her, 2. we could switch schools to avoid her more, 3. he could take aggressive action and be kicked out of school, or 4. tell her that if she said one more thing or hit him one more time his mother was going to go to her house and talk to her mother. the incident occurred when DS was in 3rd grade. Our school was butterflying teachers at that time which meant DS would have the same teacher and same class in 3rd as he had in 4th. well he got his point across to her. she stepped back and decided it was not worth the trouble she would get in at home. we have requested each year that he not be put in the same class as her and the principal and teachers were able to do that for 5th & now 6th grade. I know my DS was older and more mature than your DD and that he had other ways to handle the irritation and anger he was having at school. hang in there. the school hopefully is working on this. also be sure to express your concern to other parents in the class. the more parents that talk with the teacher & administration the better.