You must be swift as the coursing river (as long as it's the Lazy River) - comments welcome

My ferritin was 11 when I got it checked a couple of years ago, and I've read the same literature about endurance athletes should shoot for 50. Everything else for me was in the normal range. I noticed a dramatic difference within 2 weeks of starting a supplement.

My all-knowing internet mom group (from my babywearing days....so we've all been "together" for 15-20 years at this point) recommends "blood builder" or "floradix" both of which can be found on amazon. I take a slow-release supplement (slow Fe) so that I don't get any GI issues that iron can bring on. Our XC team coaches are somewhat obsessive about the runners, especially the girls, getting their iron tested because it can make a difference of minutes in a 5k depending on how low they get. Of course, teenagers tend to be poor eaters when it comes to micronutrients, but low is low and should be addressed.
Good to know! I'll look into these. I have been taking ferrous bisglycinate because I've heard that's absorbed better than other forms and doesn't usually cause GI issues. I definitely do not feel dramatically better after one week of supplementing (not that I was expecting to, but if anything I've felt worse this week). But there is still...some time? 😬
 
I had kind of forgotten that you hadn't written about your HM race yet! I know you weren't happy with it, but I'd give a kidney for a time like that, LOL. It was a great consistent effort.

I noticed a dramatic difference within 2 weeks of starting a supplement.
Lucky you! Hopefully things work quickly for @WillRunForPizza , too, but that was definitely not my experience.

I never had any GI problems from the Vitron-C, but maybe I'm just lucky. I did/do eat it with breakfast.


@WillRunForPizza - don't let the whole anemia thing get you down. It would be easy for this to get into your head and become "I can't do it" and then you don't. If you hadn't had the blood test, you would have just kept going with the training and making (hopefully) sensible decisions and adjustments about it. You have a fantastic marathon in you that's waiting to come out! You still have a nice taper to give you some rest time and you may end up feeling a lot better than you think you will.
 
I had kind of forgotten that you hadn't written about your HM race yet! I know you weren't happy with it, but I'd give a kidney for a time like that, LOL. It was a great consistent effort.
It's all just relative. For a pro, that would have been a super chill easy run. And sure, it would be cool to be that fast, but I mostly just want to be faster compared to myself. 😅

Lucky you! Hopefully things work quickly for @WillRunForPizza , too, but that was definitely not my experience.
I feel like the two of you must represent the extreme ends of iron supplementation timelines. 😆

@WillRunForPizza - don't let the whole anemia thing get you down. It would be easy for this to get into your head and become "I can't do it" and then you don't. If you hadn't had the blood test, you would have just kept going with the training and making (hopefully) sensible decisions and adjustments about it. You have a fantastic marathon in you that's waiting to come out! You still have a nice taper to give you some rest time and you may end up feeling a lot better than you think you will.
For sure. But I don't want to have high expectations either because then I will likely (a) blow up and be miserable, or (b) go out at the right pace but be slower than I want and still be miserable. So there's some balancing going on.
 
September 22 - 28, 2025
Marathon training week 12 | 26 days until Marine Corps Marathon

In which it is technically fall but actually just summer again

Monday
Yoga

I finally did some yoga. It was fine. I also did the mini-sauna. It was awful. 🙃

Tuesday
Easy: 6.6 miles (10:23), avg. HR 146, max 160, 99% Z1-2, T+D~130 ☀️
Upper body strength

I was very tired. I went out hoping I would feel better after a mile or two, and I did, but only marginally. I skipped the strides because it felt like I had zero capacity for power output. 🥴

Wednesday
Workout: 6 x 3 min T/2 min CV/1 min hard/2 min
9.8 miles, avg. HR 163, max 193, T+D~140
🌤️
Lower body strength

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I felt better than Tuesday, which isn't saying much but also was kind of essential since I couldn't even manage a few strides on Tuesday. Here I at least cobbled together something resembling a workout, aided in part by 100mg of caffeine. I could have done without the humidity. I was walking the first half of the recovery starting around rep #3.

I had some technical difficulties here. My watch apparently decided to stop measuring my location/elevation after about rep #4, so the GAP isn't helpful for the last couple. (The final hard minute was mostly uphill, so in terms of effort it was for sure harder than it looks in the chart.) Then I had put in 7 reps instead of 6, and when I got to the 7th, I thought, "Maybe I can just do one more." And then I started it and I thought, "Or not." So I still just did 6 as scheduled. 🫠

Thursday
Recovery: 5.6 miles (10:58), avg. HR 142, max 155, 100% Z1-2, T+D~140 🌧️☁️

I have nothing good to say about this run.

Friday
Easy/hill strides: 8.6 miles (10:11), avg. HR 147, max 174, 97% Z1-2, T+D~135 ⛅
Core

I am getting very tired of feeling terrible on all of my runs. I also did not mean to run this far; I changed up my route a bit and it added more distance than I expected. I thought about just walking the mile home from where I do my hill strides, but I was really thirsty and running was faster than walking.

Saturday
No uphill left behind, briefly: 4.3 miles (10:22), avg. HR 142, max 166, T+D~135 ☁️
PT exercises

I was out with friends Friday night and didn't get home until 10 (which is definitely past my bedtime), and when I got up I really didn't want to run. I managed to get myself out the door but felt super tired, legs heavy, all that fun stuff. I figured I'd do maybe 9 miles instead of 12 or so like I would have normally, but as I got to the light where I usually turn around for threshold hills, my ankle started to hurt, and I just went, "F***. This." And then I turned around and went home. 😞

My ankle actually felt fine after a couple of minutes, but at that point I was already over it and I still felt like crap and I couldn't be bothered to go finish the run.

Sunday
Long: 4 3 x 1 mile M/0.5 miles HM/1 mile M/2 min
15.4 miles, avg. HR 158, max 179, T+D~135-140
🌤️

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After Saturday, I didn't know what to expect going into my long run. But I figured unless I felt miraculously better, I would probably do 2-3 sets rather than 4.

I felt a little better when I went out, but nowhere near 100%. So I was mostly just hoping to get in any pace work at all. As it turned out, the intervals actually felt more normal than running easy - my legs were tired and heavy for both, but maybe that's just more in line with my expectations for work than recovery.

Anyway, I got through three sets, and I felt like I could have done the last one, but I didn't want to dig myself into an even deeper hole, so I didn't. My legs felt extra tired the rest of the way home, so that was probably a good choice.

It's also possible that the only thing getting me through these at this point is Precision caff gels, so props to them I guess.

Totals
Running: 8h 17m, 50.4 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h 5m
Total: 10h 23m

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I did not enjoy this week. It was humid and I felt terrible. Yesterday it occurred to me that part of my problem might be trying to train for a marathon while recovering from a half. I get why a tune-up half is useful, but I think it just may not work for me - when I did it a couple of years ago, I also felt awful for a week or two afterwards. So maybe things will get better as I get over that.

Coming up
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I mean, we'll see how I feel the next few weeks. I was thinking I would try to do No Downhill Left Behind again this week, but maybe on Friday so I have a recovery day before my long run, because last time was rough. And then CV hills might not work out (plus it sounds very not fun 😅). So things may change.
 
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September 29 - October 5, 2025
Marathon training week 13 | 21 days until Marine Corps Marathon

In which there are some potential hiccups

Monday
off

Probably nothing exciting happened, but who can remember.

Tuesday
Easy/strides: 6.7 miles (9:32), avg. HR 150, max 182, 83% Z1-2, T+D~135 ⛅
Upper body strength

I felt better than last week. Except that my knee did its weird popping thing a few times in mile two. It went away after that. 🤷‍♀️

Wednesday
Workout: 10 miles M
13.1 miles, avg. HR 162, max 177, T+D~115
☀️
Pilates

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Guess where the problem occurred...

I've given up on expecting anything in particular at this point, so my plan was to go out and run at more or less marathon effort and see what happened. The first few miles were a little rough, but eventually I kind of settled in. (Related: I need to order some more caffeinated gels.)

I decided to turn around at 6.5 miles because I really didn't need more than a mile cool-down. I got to the end of the paved part of the trail at 6.4 miles, so I ran a little bit on a somewhat rocky actual trail. I turned around at mile 6.5, ran about 30 feet back, and promptly rolled my ankle on a rock. 🤦‍♀️

I had a moment of "oh no what do I do" because I was at the farthest point from my house and there was basically nothing around. But after panicking for a minute, I realized it didn't actually hurt anymore, and I just finished the run like normal and it was more or less fine.

Unfortunately but probably unsurprisingly, my ankle was a little sore afterwards. I took some precautionary ibuprofen and put a heating pad on it (apparently ice is out now).

Other than the ankle issue, I feel like the run went okay. I averaged 7:56 pace for the 10 miles (or 9.99 miles if you ask Strava), and I got faster towards the end and didn't feel like I was dead when I stopped. 7:56 per mile is a 3:28 marathon, which I guess would at least be a PR? I don't know, we'll see.

When it came time to do my strength training, I felt okay, but it occurred to me that putting extra weight on my slightly injured ankle was perhaps not the best way to make it get better quickly. So I did some Pilates on the floor instead.

Moral of the story: Don't run even for 0.2 miles on a rocky trail in unstable carbon-plated shoes three and a half weeks out from your race, especially if you never run on trails. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Thursday
Yoga

My ankle was not bruised or swollen, but it was a little stiff, so I decided to give it an extra day just in case. I did yoga that was entirely on the floor instead.

Friday
Easy/hill strides: 6.3 miles (9:58), avg. HR 147, max 179, 96% Z1-2, T+D~110 ☀️
Core

My ankle felt pretty much okay in the morning. However, you will note that I did not try to do No Downhill Left Behind. It seemed like a Bad Idea. I just did my regular Friday run instead.

Saturday
NULB: 11.3 miles (9:49 | 9:36 GAP), avg. HR 152? max 179? T+D~115-125 ☀️
PT exercises/lower body strength

You'd think taking a day off on Thursday would have made my legs feel fresher, but no, they were really tired. I might as well have done No Downhill Left Behind for how dead they felt at the end of the run. Except that probably wouldn't have been good for my ankle.

Also my armband was dead and I'm pretty sure my watch did a terrible job measuring my HR, so I'm assuming this data is basically useless.

Sunday
Long: 18.9 miles (9:27), avg. HR 152, max 176, 89% Z1-2, T+D~115-125 ☀️

I think caffeine might be magic. 🧙‍♀️

Seriously, I start out feeling like a dead slug, and then I have a caffeinated gel, and 15 minutes later I'm like, "Oh yeah, this is fine." Look, you can probably see where the caffeine kicked in:

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Unfortunately, caffeine doesn't really fix fatigue in your legs, so by about 10 miles in I was feeling it. I stopped to pee and refill my water at about mile 14, and when I started moving again, my legs felt like they were made of wood. But I survived, thanks, again, mostly to about 250g of carbs and 125mg of caffeine.

The downside of caffeine is that it doesn't just go away when you're done running, so now I am both tired and wired. 🫨 Not my favorite feeling. Still worth it, though.

Totals
Running: 8h 48m, 56.4 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h 13m
Total: 11h 1m

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My MCM race packet arrived this week, which is exciting. My bib has a gold stripe that says "Seeded Runner" on it, which makes me feel all special inside. Unfortunately, my bib also has folds in it, because whoever packed the envelope decided the best way to fit the bib in there was to fold it in thirds. Including across the timing chip. 🤦‍♀️

So I emailed the MCM people to say, "Um, will this work? Cause somebody screwed up here, and it wasn't me." Maybe they can mail me a new chip. This is a assuming we even have a race, because it turns out that more than half of the course is on roads that NPS manages and permits are canceled during a shutdown. Just joy all around. 😦

Coming up
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This is a lie. I decided since I didn't do No Downhill Left Behind this week because of my stupidity-induced ankle boo-boo, I would do it as my workout next week. It is basically a workout anyway. So no CV hills (oh darn).

Then I was supposed to do the Army Ten-Miler on Sunday, but they moved the expo from the (Metro-accessible) DC Armory to a (not Metro-accessible) random strip mall in Springfield. I assume this is also shutdown-related, and I sympathize, but I am also not willing to make a 4-hour round trip on the Metro + bus or pay $100 for an Uber to pick up my bib for what is essentially a training run. I have emailed them also, but my expectations are low. ☹️
 


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