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Same. I've been waiting for the Brooks Glycerin to go on sale...
You must be swift as the coursing river (as long as it's the Lazy River) - comments welcome
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DH wears these, and I don't know if it's his stride, or the pavement, but they squeak really loudly when the ground is wet. Just as a point of reference for you. I'm curious about these as well since they make a "trail" version that I'm considering trying this summer for my 50k trail run....I'm just nervous they'll be *too* squishy since the 1080s are already bordering on that some days for me (but I haven't liked any other shoe I've tried, so who knows!)
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Hmmm, I have not tried them on wet pavement yet but will report back whenever that happens! I actually don't think I've ever tried 1080s, so I can't compare them, but I think they are slightly less squishy than the Asics Gel-Nimbus...25 maybe? I forget what version I had. Or maybe the squishiness just feels more supportive. I definitely like them better than the Rebel v3, which felt like squishiniess with very little support.
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Princess Half Marathon Training Plan
In which I pay homage to Aurora
We already talked about the basic structure of the plan, so let's jump right in.
Starting things off relatively easy in weeks 1 and 2. I try not to target specific paces in the first couple of weeks because that never goes well for me. (Although perhaps last week's mini HM workout was a counterpoint.) Anyway, just some basic workouts running by feel on Wednesdays.
Week 1's long run is only 4 minutes more than I ran yesterday, so should be no problem at all. In week 2, I'm aiming for about 5K at M pace, which seems like it shouldn't be too hard considering I recently ran 26.2 miles at M pace, but again, the first couple of weeks are always sort of iffy.
I've also calculated my easy running pace based on a 10-minute mile, mostly because it made the math easier. Usually I am slightly faster than that these days, but not enough faster to make a significant difference for daily mileage. And I do have the Saturday runs in miles because there's potential for a pickup in the second half, so the time may not be very similar going out and back. The only drawback with moving those runs from Friday to Saturday is that that also moves my total body strength to the day before the long run, which I wouldn't normally do. Hopefully it works out okay; if not, I will adjust.
You might also notice that the weekday workouts don't list a warm-up or cool-down - of course I will still do them, but I got lazy and didn't feel like writing them out
In week 3, we get to have speed work! Yay... And here's my first trial of finishing a workout with a mile or two at a steady pace, something I heard about on Some Work, All Play. Then switching over to lactate threshold in week 4 - a day later than normal because I didn't feel like doing it on Christmas morning. After realizing that no, there is not a 30-minute limit on threshold work, that's now my starting point. Plus a little progression interval in the long run. Week 4 is also a cutback week, to give my body time to consolidate the gains it made in the preceding three weeks.
A combo workout in week 5, followed by a long progression and mile repeats in week 6. No specific pace for the mile repeats, but they should also progress throughout the workout. And that's halfway!
Some more threshold in week 7, ending in a bit of speed work. Plus the longest duration of my long runs at 2.5 hours. Then the workout in week 8 (another cutback) is a repeat of week 3's with one more interval per set. And at this point, it's time to work on race pace in the long run, jumping right in with 2 x 3 miles.
I have found mile time trials towards the end of a training block to be a pretty good tool to get a sense of what my race pace could be. But it also seems like kind of a waste of a workout just doing one mile. Then a while ago I read something about throwing a time trial into the bigger workout, and
. So that's where week 9's workout came from. Neither 8 x 1 km at threshold nor a mile time trial would be a particularly hard workout on their own, but together they should be an exciting challenge 
.
Including the time trial in the middle of a bigger workout does mean that it might be a less-good predictor for the race, but I can take that into account when I'm using the calculators. And then, another 2.5-hour long run! This is theoretically the peak week of the plan, with about 8.5 hours of running if I've done the math right (always possible!). Definitely not as much as marathon training, but still significant.
Week 10 features another short progression which I think is pretty similar to a workout I did in marathon training. Just another variation on "make Kate run fast"
Then we step up the HM pace work.
And with only 12 weeks to train, we're already almost done! I decided to adapt the workout from Run Like a Pro in week 11, making the paces a little farther apart and the reps correspondingly longer/shorter. The taper basically starts after that, and I thought I'd try doing a little less this time around after my legs ached so much in the marathon. Week 12 looks particularly short, but some of that is because there's an extra rest day - I wanted to be off two days before the race, but I didn't want to run 10 days in a row, so that's just where we ended up.
Pacing is a bit interesting. I went back to McMillan, which ended up being good because he's the only one of the major equivalency calculators that actually thinks my marathon time was better than my 5K time. (I'm pretty sure it really was, but most of the pace calculators don't agree.) So probably this underestimates my non-marathon paces, but I can live with that (and even if I couldn't, I'm not sure what alternatives I have
).
I still have to add in the specific strength workouts. However, as I mentioned earlier, I'm not going to be using Fitness Blender for my lower body strength workouts. Instead, I made a little chart of the exercises I think will be most beneficial to me:
SL = single leg, Alt. = alternating
I figure I'll pick out 1-2 from each category each week and do two or three rounds of 8-10 (for most exercises). We'll see how it goes; again, adjustments are always possible.
As always, please share any thoughts, questions, and/or suggestions!
In which I pay homage to Aurora
We already talked about the basic structure of the plan, so let's jump right in.
Starting things off relatively easy in weeks 1 and 2. I try not to target specific paces in the first couple of weeks because that never goes well for me. (Although perhaps last week's mini HM workout was a counterpoint.) Anyway, just some basic workouts running by feel on Wednesdays.
Week 1's long run is only 4 minutes more than I ran yesterday, so should be no problem at all. In week 2, I'm aiming for about 5K at M pace, which seems like it shouldn't be too hard considering I recently ran 26.2 miles at M pace, but again, the first couple of weeks are always sort of iffy.
I've also calculated my easy running pace based on a 10-minute mile, mostly because it made the math easier. Usually I am slightly faster than that these days, but not enough faster to make a significant difference for daily mileage. And I do have the Saturday runs in miles because there's potential for a pickup in the second half, so the time may not be very similar going out and back. The only drawback with moving those runs from Friday to Saturday is that that also moves my total body strength to the day before the long run, which I wouldn't normally do. Hopefully it works out okay; if not, I will adjust.
You might also notice that the weekday workouts don't list a warm-up or cool-down - of course I will still do them, but I got lazy and didn't feel like writing them out
In week 3, we get to have speed work! Yay... And here's my first trial of finishing a workout with a mile or two at a steady pace, something I heard about on Some Work, All Play. Then switching over to lactate threshold in week 4 - a day later than normal because I didn't feel like doing it on Christmas morning. After realizing that no, there is not a 30-minute limit on threshold work, that's now my starting point. Plus a little progression interval in the long run. Week 4 is also a cutback week, to give my body time to consolidate the gains it made in the preceding three weeks.
A combo workout in week 5, followed by a long progression and mile repeats in week 6. No specific pace for the mile repeats, but they should also progress throughout the workout. And that's halfway!
Some more threshold in week 7, ending in a bit of speed work. Plus the longest duration of my long runs at 2.5 hours. Then the workout in week 8 (another cutback) is a repeat of week 3's with one more interval per set. And at this point, it's time to work on race pace in the long run, jumping right in with 2 x 3 miles.
I have found mile time trials towards the end of a training block to be a pretty good tool to get a sense of what my race pace could be. But it also seems like kind of a waste of a workout just doing one mile. Then a while ago I read something about throwing a time trial into the bigger workout, and
. So that's where week 9's workout came from. Neither 8 x 1 km at threshold nor a mile time trial would be a particularly hard workout on their own, but together they should be an exciting challenge .Including the time trial in the middle of a bigger workout does mean that it might be a less-good predictor for the race, but I can take that into account when I'm using the calculators. And then, another 2.5-hour long run! This is theoretically the peak week of the plan, with about 8.5 hours of running if I've done the math right (always possible!). Definitely not as much as marathon training, but still significant.
Week 10 features another short progression which I think is pretty similar to a workout I did in marathon training. Just another variation on "make Kate run fast"
Then we step up the HM pace work.And with only 12 weeks to train, we're already almost done! I decided to adapt the workout from Run Like a Pro in week 11, making the paces a little farther apart and the reps correspondingly longer/shorter. The taper basically starts after that, and I thought I'd try doing a little less this time around after my legs ached so much in the marathon. Week 12 looks particularly short, but some of that is because there's an extra rest day - I wanted to be off two days before the race, but I didn't want to run 10 days in a row, so that's just where we ended up.
Pacing is a bit interesting. I went back to McMillan, which ended up being good because he's the only one of the major equivalency calculators that actually thinks my marathon time was better than my 5K time. (I'm pretty sure it really was, but most of the pace calculators don't agree.) So probably this underestimates my non-marathon paces, but I can live with that (and even if I couldn't, I'm not sure what alternatives I have
).I still have to add in the specific strength workouts. However, as I mentioned earlier, I'm not going to be using Fitness Blender for my lower body strength workouts. Instead, I made a little chart of the exercises I think will be most beneficial to me:
SL = single leg, Alt. = alternating
I figure I'll pick out 1-2 from each category each week and do two or three rounds of 8-10 (for most exercises). We'll see how it goes; again, adjustments are always possible.
As always, please share any thoughts, questions, and/or suggestions!
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WillRunForPizza
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December 2-8, 2024
HM training week 1 | 77 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which training is harder than not training
Monday
Yoga
No running. Off to a great start
Tuesday
Easy/strides: 5.2 miles (9:36), avg. HR 150, max 166, 97% Z1-2
Upper body strength
Was not a fan of the wind this morning. My calf was aching for some reason while I was walking the dog, so I sat in bed with a heating pad on it for a bit before going out. And then I didn't want to leave
Running by time is going to take some getting used to. I feel like I had to check my watch more, only then I still turned around at the same spot because that's where the water fountain is.
Wednesday
Workout: 3 x (5 x 1 min on/1 min off)/2 min off
7.5 miles, avg. HR ??
Lower body strength
This workout was definitely a step up in difficulty from the rest of my post-marathon running. Of course, that was entirely self-inflicted - I could have run slower if I wanted to. Instead, I started out in the mid-7s and finished in the low 6s. Which felt hard.
Really, after 4 weeks of more casual running (and the taper followed by a week off before that), I had forgotten what it feels like to do speed work in the morning and lower body strength in the afternoon. (It feels like dead, dead legs
)
Thursday
Easy: 4.4 miles (10:20), avg. HR 144, max 155, 100% Z1-2
Yeesh.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.1 miles (9:51), avg. HR 149, max 162, 99% Z1-2
Core
My legs were still pretty tired. The strides were a bit pathetic
And I did NOT remember that core workout being so hard. My core is weak 
Saturday
Pickup: 7 miles (9:06), avg. HR 152, max 177
Total body strength
I swear I had a headwind the entire run. This does not seem physically plausible but there it is.
My legs felt better than the last couple of days but still not great. However, I also had to pee, so I sped up anyway. It ended up going pretty well. I did slow down after about 6.8 miles so I wouldn't be going straight from like threshold pace to a standstill. And I got another fun chart out of it, anyway.
Sunday
Long: 10.6 miles (9:28), avg. HR 154, max 169, 87% Z1-2
This run was going pretty well for about 5 miles (though I did have to pee, again, starting at like mile 2
). Then all of a sudden my legs went, 
"Um, we worked hard yesterday? What is happening right now?" and they complained for the rest of the run. Good times.
Also I ran an extra two minutes before turning around so I could make a pit stop at the 7-11. And then I had to walk like half a mile back after I was finished because my timing was off.
Totals
Running: 6h 18m, 39.93 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h
Total: 8h 19m
Should have run a little bit of that last half a mile
Coming up
I may be moving some things around a bit because I have an event on Wednesday. Or maybe not. We'll see what happens.
HM training week 1 | 77 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which training is harder than not training
Monday
Yoga
No running. Off to a great start
Tuesday
Easy/strides: 5.2 miles (9:36), avg. HR 150, max 166, 97% Z1-2
Upper body strength
Was not a fan of the wind this morning. My calf was aching for some reason while I was walking the dog, so I sat in bed with a heating pad on it for a bit before going out. And then I didn't want to leave
Running by time is going to take some getting used to. I feel like I had to check my watch more, only then I still turned around at the same spot because that's where the water fountain is.
Wednesday
Workout: 3 x (5 x 1 min on/1 min off)/2 min off
7.5 miles, avg. HR ??
Lower body strength
This workout was definitely a step up in difficulty from the rest of my post-marathon running. Of course, that was entirely self-inflicted - I could have run slower if I wanted to. Instead, I started out in the mid-7s and finished in the low 6s. Which felt hard.
Really, after 4 weeks of more casual running (and the taper followed by a week off before that), I had forgotten what it feels like to do speed work in the morning and lower body strength in the afternoon. (It feels like dead, dead legs
)Thursday
Easy: 4.4 miles (10:20), avg. HR 144, max 155, 100% Z1-2
Yeesh.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.1 miles (9:51), avg. HR 149, max 162, 99% Z1-2
Core
My legs were still pretty tired. The strides were a bit pathetic
And I did NOT remember that core workout being so hard. My core is weak Saturday
Pickup: 7 miles (9:06), avg. HR 152, max 177
Total body strength
I swear I had a headwind the entire run. This does not seem physically plausible but there it is.
My legs felt better than the last couple of days but still not great. However, I also had to pee, so I sped up anyway
. It ended up going pretty well. I did slow down after about 6.8 miles so I wouldn't be going straight from like threshold pace to a standstill. And I got another fun chart out of it, anyway.Sunday
Long: 10.6 miles (9:28), avg. HR 154, max 169, 87% Z1-2
This run was going pretty well for about 5 miles (though I did have to pee, again, starting at like mile 2
). Then all of a sudden my legs went, "Um, we worked hard yesterday? What is happening right now?" and they complained for the rest of the run. Good times.Also I ran an extra two minutes before turning around so I could make a pit stop at the 7-11. And then I had to walk like half a mile back after I was finished because my timing was off.
Totals
Running: 6h 18m, 39.93 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h
Total: 8h 19m
Should have run a little bit of that last half a mile
Coming up
I may be moving some things around a bit because I have an event on Wednesday. Or maybe not. We'll see what happens.
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WillRunForPizza
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Half marathon training week 2 | 69 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I am busy
I moved some things around.
Monday
Yoga
This was a good one for recovery. A little stretching, a little mobility, exactly one plank. I liked it.
Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 2 x 5/4/3/2/1 min on/2 min off + 1.2 mile CD
Total: 9.2 miles, avg. HR 157, max 191
Lower body strength
I keep trying to give myself (relatively) easy workouts for these first couple of weeks of real training and not succeeding. By the middle of the first set, I was berating myself for assigning myself two rounds of this.
I didn't technically have pace targets, but if you have five intervals of decreasing length, the obvious strategy (to me, anyway) is to go MP, HMP, 10KP, 5KP, 1MP. At least, it was obvious until I realized halfway through the first interval that I couldn't remember what my 10K pace or mile pace was supposed to be now. I guessed 7:15 and 6:15 (it was 7:17 and 6:16, so close enough). My pacing was not terrible, but it does seem odd to me that the GAP can be so different when the elevation gain on this route is like 20 feet per mile. I guess the shorter the interval, the more impact even a small elevation change has.
Also, I should have brought a water bottle.
Plus I did leg raises and froggers.
Wednesday
Easy: 4.3 miles (10:41), avg. HR 143, max 152, 100% Z1-2
My legs were tired. And it was sticky.
Thursday
Easy/strides: 5.7 miles (9:36), avg HR 150, max 163
Upper body strength
It was chilly. And windy. And drivers were bad.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.3 miles (9:31), avg. HR ???
Core
Pretty unremarkable.
Saturday
Easy: 8.1 miles (9:53), avg. HR 152?, max 158 probably, 100% Z1-2
I was tired. We went to the Candlelight Processional on Friday night, which was great, but I didn't get to bed until after 11, and then my dog woke up around 6 as usual. I've been feeling a bit run down all week, and my resting HR has been higher than normal as well. I don't feel sick, but maybe I am just a teensy bit sick and it's wearing me out, especially with a busier-than-usual schedule.
Anyway, I did not do the optional pickup this time around. I did get faster in the second half, but that was more just my legs loosening up a little, and also cloud cover. Plus some distraction arguing with the Jeff Galloway in my headphones (most of which we've already talked about, but WHY ARE YOU TELLING PEOPLE TO TAKE NSAIDS WHILE RUNNING? No! Bad! That's how otherwise healthy people end up with kidney failure.) Lol.
I was still tired enough that I skipped my strength training (less deliberately and more "I kept putting it off until it was too late").
Sunday
Long: 80 min easy (9:57) + 25 min @ MP (8:13) + 10 min CD (11:14) = 12 miles
Okay. I knew this was coming. But. HOW WAS THAT SO HARD???
Seven weeks ago, I ran at marathon pace for 212 minutes. That is how it became my marathon pace. Yesterday, 25 minutes at not even marathon pace = torture. Argh. Why do the first few weeks of a training cycle suck so much?? Where did my fitness go???
I know it will be fine. I'm just grumpy about it.
I thought about making up Saturday's strength training, but I was still tired and I didn't.
Totals
Running: 7h 9m, 44.7 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 20m
Total: 8h 30m
Definitely missing some strength work. This week should be quieter and hopefully I will not be as tired.
Coming up
More speed work, but also just a basic, easy long run. Hopefully also more sleep.
Half marathon training week 2 | 69 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I am busy
I moved some things around.
Monday
Yoga
This was a good one for recovery. A little stretching, a little mobility, exactly one plank. I liked it.
Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 2 x 5/4/3/2/1 min on/2 min off + 1.2 mile CD
Total: 9.2 miles, avg. HR 157, max 191
Lower body strength
I keep trying to give myself (relatively) easy workouts for these first couple of weeks of real training and not succeeding. By the middle of the first set, I was berating myself for assigning myself two rounds of this.
I didn't technically have pace targets, but if you have five intervals of decreasing length, the obvious strategy (to me, anyway) is to go MP, HMP, 10KP, 5KP, 1MP. At least, it was obvious until I realized halfway through the first interval that I couldn't remember what my 10K pace or mile pace was supposed to be now. I guessed 7:15 and 6:15 (it was 7:17 and 6:16, so close enough). My pacing was not terrible, but it does seem odd to me that the GAP can be so different when the elevation gain on this route is like 20 feet per mile. I guess the shorter the interval, the more impact even a small elevation change has.
Also, I should have brought a water bottle.
Plus I did leg raises and froggers.
Wednesday
Easy: 4.3 miles (10:41), avg. HR 143, max 152, 100% Z1-2
My legs were tired. And it was sticky.
Thursday
Easy/strides: 5.7 miles (9:36), avg HR 150, max 163
Upper body strength
It was chilly. And windy. And drivers were bad.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.3 miles (9:31), avg. HR ???
Core
Pretty unremarkable.
Saturday
Easy: 8.1 miles (9:53), avg. HR 152?, max 158 probably, 100% Z1-2
I was tired. We went to the Candlelight Processional on Friday night, which was great, but I didn't get to bed until after 11, and then my dog woke up around 6 as usual. I've been feeling a bit run down all week, and my resting HR has been higher than normal as well. I don't feel sick, but maybe I am just a teensy bit sick and it's wearing me out, especially with a busier-than-usual schedule.
Anyway, I did not do the optional pickup this time around. I did get faster in the second half, but that was more just my legs loosening up a little, and also cloud cover. Plus some distraction arguing with the Jeff Galloway in my headphones (most of which we've already talked about, but WHY ARE YOU TELLING PEOPLE TO TAKE NSAIDS WHILE RUNNING? No! Bad! That's how otherwise healthy people end up with kidney failure.) Lol.
I was still tired enough that I skipped my strength training (less deliberately and more "I kept putting it off until it was too late").
Sunday
Long: 80 min easy (9:57) + 25 min @ MP (8:13) + 10 min CD (11:14) = 12 miles
Okay. I knew this was coming. But. HOW WAS THAT SO HARD???
Seven weeks ago, I ran at marathon pace for 212 minutes. That is how it became my marathon pace. Yesterday, 25 minutes at not even marathon pace = torture. Argh. Why do the first few weeks of a training cycle suck so much?? Where did my fitness go???
I know it will be fine. I'm just grumpy about it.
I thought about making up Saturday's strength training, but I was still tired and I didn't.
Totals
Running: 7h 9m, 44.7 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 20m
Total: 8h 30m
Definitely missing some strength work. This week should be quieter and hopefully I will not be as tired.
Coming up
More speed work, but also just a basic, easy long run. Hopefully also more sleep.
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I spent some of my run today virtually arguing with Jeff. He's so dismissive of other training methods. I'm obviously not an expert, but there are other methods to successfully marathon train that don't include 26 miles in training. The way he talks is like those aren't valid and I worry about the message it sends those new to the sport.
Anyway, hang in there. Your running form will return soon.
Anyway, hang in there. Your running form will return soon.
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Absolutely - especially when his is literally the only program for the masses that tells people to run that far in training! People can use it if they want, but all those other plans work for lots of people too...
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Wow !! I have to be honest I was unaware of this. Have been researching since I read this and quite shocked I had never known of the risks.
I count myself lucky
I have never had any issues to this point. I don’t take much in the way of Ibuprofen etc as a rule however due to issues with ITB i would take before every race over 10 miles then again if it flared up during the run 
Safe to say I won’t be doing that again!!
Thanks for the heads up
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If you need something while you are running, stick with acetaminophen/paracetamol! If it's not immediately before/during/immediately after running, then ibuprofen is okay.Wow !! I have to be honest I was unaware of this. Have been researching since I read this and quite shocked I had never known of the risks.
I count myself lucky
Safe to say I won’t be doing that again!!
Thanks for the heads up
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Thanks , Yes I’ll use Paracetamol if needed during the race from now on.
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When I was first starting with my marathon training I listened to a podcast who strongly claimed that you shouldn't even CONSIDER a full until you'd been running 30 mile weeks for a few months. Dude. And then I shut that podcast off and never listened to it again.
If you ever need something on-course at rundisney races, the only thing they hand out is acetaminophen. I guess they used to mark hands with a sharpie when they administered it so people weren't OD'ing on it during the race when they stopped to ask for it at med tents.
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I've learned that the one hard truth about training for marathon is that there's a wide variety of training plans and theories and all are valid. 
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Sounds like they fell into the trap of equating time and mileage
I think the principle (don't jump into a 16-week marathon plan from no running or very little running) is good, but I would probably say instead that you should be able to run maybe 45-60 minutes easily on any given day and at least 90 minutes for a long run before it's a good idea to start a marathon training block. And I'm sure there are exceptions because there are always exceptions
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Half marathon training week 3 | 63 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I have technological issues
Monday
off
I did nothing. I don't even remember what happened in general; it was like six whole days ago
Tuesday
Easy: 5.2 miles (10:33), avg. HR 147, max 159?, 100% Z1-2
Upper body strength
I decided not to do strides because I was clearly still recovering from something. It was also very icky (T+D > 140).
This strength routine was an interesting one...and SO much harder than I expected
Wednesday
Workout:3 x 3 min @ 3KP/3 min RI + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 1 mile @ MP 2 mile WU + 5 x 2 min @ 3KP/2 min RI + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 1.8 mile CD
7.6 miles, avg. HR 156, max 190
Lower body strength
I set my workout on Tuesday evening, but when I started it, apparently something different came up. I didn't realize until I started the first interval and it said 2 minutes instead of 3 and I went, "Um..." Rather than stopping and trying to find the one I was supposed to be doing, I just adjusted the one I had (which was 6 x 2 min and 6 x 1 min) - I figured 5 x 2 min and 4 x 1 min was close enough. I forgot about the mile at MP though
It was another steamy day, so I checked my adjusted paces before I went out (6:51/6:27). I shouldn't have bothered; I was all over the place. That's pretty typical for me, especially with faster paces and especially at the beginning of a training block.
Thursday
Easy: 5 miles (10:35), avg. HR 140, max 153, 100% Z1-2
My legs really did not want to go faster than a walk at first, but they got there eventually.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.6 miles (10:00), avg. HR 145, max 160?
Core
Feeling a bit more normal, and the weather was better.
Saturday
Easy w/ pickup: 9.1 miles (9:19), avg. HR 150, max 166 (?)
Total body strength
The weather cooled off quite a bit, which was nice, and I feel like this run went reasonably well. And I did the strength this week
Sunday
Long: 13.4 miles (9:45), avg. HR 147, max 160, 100% Z1-2
That wasn't too bad. Certainly an improvement on the last couple of weeks.
From my parents' house in Orlando, I have a 5-mile out-and-back (6 if I add a loop around the baseball fields) and an 11.5-mile out-and-back. To make up the extra on the longer route for 130 minutes, I ran up and down the one hill at the end of it five times. That's my only hill work right now
I tried out the new mocha-flavored UCAN on this run (I basically got a box for free as part of their Black Friday sale). It was kind of bitter - the less sugary taste works well for the fruit flavors, but it wasn't as good with coffee and chocolate. The caffeine did make me feel like I had more energy, though
Totals
Running: 7h 31m, 45.98 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 42m
Total: 9h 14m
I'm slowly getting back into the groove.
Coming up
I wasn't going to have my hardest day of the week be on Christmas, so I moved some things around. Depending on how I'm feeling, I might also do my workout/lower body strength on Tuesday. I'll play it by ear.
Half marathon training week 3 | 63 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I have technological issues
Monday
off
I did nothing. I don't even remember what happened in general; it was like six whole days ago
Tuesday
Easy: 5.2 miles (10:33), avg. HR 147, max 159?, 100% Z1-2
Upper body strength
I decided not to do strides because I was clearly still recovering from something. It was also very icky (T+D > 140).
This strength routine was an interesting one...and SO much harder than I expected
Wednesday
Workout:
7.6 miles, avg. HR 156, max 190
Lower body strength
I set my workout on Tuesday evening, but when I started it, apparently something different came up. I didn't realize until I started the first interval and it said 2 minutes instead of 3 and I went, "Um..." Rather than stopping and trying to find the one I was supposed to be doing, I just adjusted the one I had (which was 6 x 2 min and 6 x 1 min) - I figured 5 x 2 min and 4 x 1 min was close enough. I forgot about the mile at MP though
It was another steamy day, so I checked my adjusted paces before I went out (6:51/6:27). I shouldn't have bothered; I was all over the place. That's pretty typical for me, especially with faster paces and especially at the beginning of a training block.
Thursday
Easy: 5 miles (10:35), avg. HR 140, max 153, 100% Z1-2
My legs really did not want to go faster than a walk at first, but they got there eventually.
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.6 miles (10:00), avg. HR 145, max 160?
Core
Feeling a bit more normal, and the weather was better.
Saturday
Easy w/ pickup: 9.1 miles (9:19), avg. HR 150, max 166 (?)
Total body strength
The weather cooled off quite a bit, which was nice, and I feel like this run went reasonably well. And I did the strength this week
Sunday
Long: 13.4 miles (9:45), avg. HR 147, max 160, 100% Z1-2
That wasn't too bad. Certainly an improvement on the last couple of weeks.
From my parents' house in Orlando, I have a 5-mile out-and-back (6 if I add a loop around the baseball fields) and an 11.5-mile out-and-back. To make up the extra on the longer route for 130 minutes, I ran up and down the one hill at the end of it five times. That's my only hill work right now
I tried out the new mocha-flavored UCAN on this run (I basically got a box for free as part of their Black Friday sale). It was kind of bitter - the less sugary taste works well for the fruit flavors, but it wasn't as good with coffee and chocolate. The caffeine did make me feel like I had more energy, though
Totals
Running: 7h 31m, 45.98 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 42m
Total: 9h 14m
I'm slowly getting back into the groove.
Coming up
I wasn't going to have my hardest day of the week be on Christmas, so I moved some things around. Depending on how I'm feeling, I might also do my workout/lower body strength on Tuesday. I'll play it by ear.
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Half marathon training week 4 | 56 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I eat my weight in Christmas cookies
Monday
off
Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 3 x 10 min @ LTP/2 min RI + 4 x 30s @ 1MP/1 min RI + 1.3 mile CD
8.6 miles, avg. HR 154, max 170?
Lower body strength
I did end up doing my workout on Tuesday - the weather looked better than Thursday.
I have finally reached the point in the training block where I feel like I remember how to run again. The threshold intervals felt comfortable - the third rep was actually a bit fast in terms of pacing, though my watch said my HR was still totally reasonable.
I was not looking at my watch for the 30s speed reps, just running as fast as seemed feasible. I was pretty happy with my paces for those as well.
Wednesday
Easy: 4.1 miles (10:26), avg. HR 139, max 151, 100% Z1-2
I felt out of breath even though I was keeping my effort quite easy, because it's hard to sing along to Christmas songs while running. I don't think a Broadway career is in my future
The twelve cookies of Christmas is apparently a tradition now.
The 12 cookies of Christmas, 2024: chocolate chip, oatmeal raisin, snickerdoodle, ginger molasses, triple chocolate, pumpkin chocolate chip, brown sugar (bars; I had scooping issues), oatmeal pecan, (slightly wonky) checkerboards, butterscotch chocolate chip, sugar, peanut butter blossom
For running-related gifts, I got a SWAP Patreon membership (that's David and Megan Roche), a PB Run Club singlet (as in Phily Bowden, my favorite YouTuber), and a new pair of Metaspeed Edge Paris. A good haul!
Thursday
Easy/strides: 5.6 miles (9:56), avg. HR 143, max 162, 99% Z1-2
Upper body strength
My legs, especially my calves, were still feeling a bit tired, and it got warm once the sun was out. But overall not a bad run.
I got a plug for the bathtub so I could start doing passive heat training again, and whew! Hot water is hot
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.7 miles (9:48), avg. HR 146, max 162 (?)
Core
I need to stop having to pee after 20 minutes of running
Saturday
Progression: 7.1 miles, avg. HR 156, max 180
Total body strength
I think I got a little too fast too fast. I ended up cutting it off after 5.5 - my pace got down to about the 7:20s for a few minutes, but my HR also got up to 180 and that seemed like a good time to stop trying so hard. I kind of wanted to keep it up for another half a mile, but I also had a long run workout planned for Sunday and didn't want to die during that.
Sunday
Long: 45 min easy + 4 x 3 min @ MP/2 min @ HMP/1 min @ 10KP/3 min easy + 15 min easy
10.6 miles, avg. HR 154, max 182
It was supposed to rain. I wanted it to rain because it was warm and sticky and rain would have made it less gross. Disappointment
Otherwise it was fine. My legs felt like jello by the end, and I thought, "That's weird; this wasn't that hard of a workout and it was only like 10 miles" and then I remembered that yesterday I did a progression and strength training and I had no more questions. But it was good; I like running in that kind of moderate zone.
Also I got two smaller (8 oz) bottles for my Naked belt for Christmas and tried them on this run, and I think they will work well. Hopefully no bruising in my next marathon!
(ETA: My left soleus was feeling quite tight a mile or two into this run, but I stopped for like 10 seconds to stretch/massage it out and then it was fine)
Total
Running: 6h 31m, 41.8 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 36m
Total: 8h 8m
Look, a nice cutback week timed perfectly for Christmas!
I'm considering tweaking my strength schedule so I can go back to having two core workouts a week, though
Coming up
I might do my workout on Tuesday again. Not because I'm expecting much excitement on NYE - I'm unlikely to be awake past 10 - but because last year the air quality on new year's morning was crap and that seems less than ideal. If I'm doing a recovery run, at least I can wait until the afternoon because I don't care how slow I have to run.
Hope everyone's been enjoying the holidays!
Half marathon training week 4 | 56 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I eat my weight in Christmas cookies
Monday
off
Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 3 x 10 min @ LTP/2 min RI + 4 x 30s @ 1MP/1 min RI + 1.3 mile CD
8.6 miles, avg. HR 154, max 170?
Lower body strength
I did end up doing my workout on Tuesday - the weather looked better than Thursday.
I have finally reached the point in the training block where I feel like I remember how to run again. The threshold intervals felt comfortable - the third rep was actually a bit fast in terms of pacing, though my watch said my HR was still totally reasonable.
I was not looking at my watch for the 30s speed reps, just running as fast as seemed feasible. I was pretty happy with my paces for those as well.
Wednesday
Easy: 4.1 miles (10:26), avg. HR 139, max 151, 100% Z1-2
I felt out of breath even though I was keeping my effort quite easy, because it's hard to sing along to Christmas songs while running. I don't think a Broadway career is in my future
The twelve cookies of Christmas is apparently a tradition now.
The 12 cookies of Christmas, 2024: chocolate chip, oatmeal raisin, snickerdoodle, ginger molasses, triple chocolate, pumpkin chocolate chip, brown sugar (bars; I had scooping issues), oatmeal pecan, (slightly wonky) checkerboards, butterscotch chocolate chip, sugar, peanut butter blossom
For running-related gifts, I got a SWAP Patreon membership (that's David and Megan Roche), a PB Run Club singlet (as in Phily Bowden, my favorite YouTuber), and a new pair of Metaspeed Edge Paris. A good haul!
Thursday
Easy/strides: 5.6 miles (9:56), avg. HR 143, max 162, 99% Z1-2
Upper body strength
My legs, especially my calves, were still feeling a bit tired, and it got warm once the sun was out. But overall not a bad run.
I got a plug for the bathtub so I could start doing passive heat training again, and whew! Hot water is hot
Friday
Easy/strides: 5.7 miles (9:48), avg. HR 146, max 162 (?)
Core
I need to stop having to pee after 20 minutes of running
Saturday
Progression: 7.1 miles, avg. HR 156, max 180
Total body strength
I think I got a little too fast too fast
. I ended up cutting it off after 5.5 - my pace got down to about the 7:20s for a few minutes, but my HR also got up to 180 and that seemed like a good time to stop trying so hard. I kind of wanted to keep it up for another half a mile, but I also had a long run workout planned for Sunday and didn't want to die during that.Sunday
Long: 45 min easy + 4 x 3 min @ MP/2 min @ HMP/1 min @ 10KP/3 min easy + 15 min easy
10.6 miles, avg. HR 154, max 182
It was supposed to rain. I wanted it to rain because it was warm and sticky and rain would have made it less gross. Disappointment
Otherwise it was fine. My legs felt like jello by the end, and I thought, "That's weird; this wasn't that hard of a workout and it was only like 10 miles" and then I remembered that yesterday I did a progression and strength training and I had no more questions. But it was good; I like running in that kind of moderate zone.
Also I got two smaller (8 oz) bottles for my Naked belt for Christmas and tried them on this run, and I think they will work well. Hopefully no bruising in my next marathon!
(ETA: My left soleus was feeling quite tight a mile or two into this run, but I stopped for like 10 seconds to stretch/massage it out and then it was fine
)Total
Running: 6h 31m, 41.8 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 36m
Total: 8h 8m
Look, a nice cutback week timed perfectly for Christmas!
I'm considering tweaking my strength schedule so I can go back to having two core workouts a week, though
Coming up
I might do my workout on Tuesday again. Not because I'm expecting much excitement on NYE - I'm unlikely to be awake past 10 - but because last year the air quality on new year's morning was crap and that seems less than ideal. If I'm doing a recovery run, at least I can wait until the afternoon because I don't care how slow I have to run.
Hope everyone's been enjoying the holidays!
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2024 recap
In which I run a lot!
Y'all, we are already 4 days into 2025. How did that happen? In my head it's still like 2012
Anyway, that means it is past time to look back on 2024.
I started out with the shortened MW half and took lots of photos! I wasn't running hard because I had done Space Coast like 6 weeks before, so it was all about the character stops. I think I was most excited about Robin Hood - my brother and I watched that movie approximately 7,000 times growing up. I also cheered on the marathoners the next day, which was fun!
I had another brief interlude as a spectator at the US Olympic Marathon Trials, which was super cool! I have gotten pretty into elite running since I started training consistently a couple of years ago, so it was awesome to watch so many of the athletes I had been following race in person. Also...they are so fast
.
Anyway, MW was basically the start of my training for Princess. It was my first challenge, and I had a strategy: race the 10K, chill during the half. I had a great 10K with 3-minute PR, and then the half really hurt. I came to two realizations: 1, Disney is actually a pretty great place to race, at least if you start near the front, and 2, challenges are not for me. I need sleep!
After Princess I got like a three-week cold, which was horribly annoying. This rather derailed my plans for the rest of the spring, but I did eventually end up racing some parkruns once I got back to DC. Three parkruns and two PRs (one of them exceptionally muddy!) later, I learned that 5Ks are hard, and racing in the heat is really hard. But parkrun is great!
After a brief break, it was time to start marathon training...but more importantly, it was time for the Olympics! What a great two weeks. Can we do it again next year?
During my marathon training, I ran the DC Half at my expected marathon pace, and it went shockingly well, which was a nice boost. Plus I got to meet Des Linden at the pre-race party!
Finally, it was time for the culmination of my running year: the Marine Corps Marathon. It was chilly (though possibly not as chilly as the marathon next weekend!) and hurt more than any other race I've ever run, but I came out of it with a shiny new PR and only two and a half minutes from a BQ!
Post-MCM, I headed back to Florida so I wouldn't be cold (ha) and have been taking it pretty easy since then, just getting back into Princess training at the beginning of December. And so the cycle begins again!
So that was the chronology. As for the numbers, in 2024, I...
ran 2,060 miles (an average of just under 40 mpw!)
did just shy of 97 hours of strength/core/yoga/Pilates (I figured out how to find this on Strava!)
notched 4 PRs (10K, 5K, M, HM) officially and two more unofficially
wrote myself 3.5 training plans (I had to revise my spring training into two plans after I got sick; hence the .5)
I also more than doubled my mileage from when I started running regularly in 2022 (though in fairness the "running regularly" did not start until like April) and added 200+ miles from last year.
Thanks everyone for following along! I can't wait to see what we all achieve in 2025!
In which I run a lot!
Y'all, we are already 4 days into 2025. How did that happen? In my head it's still like 2012
Anyway, that means it is past time to look back on 2024.
I started out with the shortened MW half and took lots of photos! I wasn't running hard because I had done Space Coast like 6 weeks before, so it was all about the character stops. I think I was most excited about Robin Hood - my brother and I watched that movie approximately 7,000 times growing up. I also cheered on the marathoners the next day, which was fun!
I had another brief interlude as a spectator at the US Olympic Marathon Trials, which was super cool! I have gotten pretty into elite running since I started training consistently a couple of years ago, so it was awesome to watch so many of the athletes I had been following race in person. Also...they are so fast
.Anyway, MW was basically the start of my training for Princess. It was my first challenge, and I had a strategy: race the 10K, chill during the half. I had a great 10K with 3-minute PR, and then the half really hurt
. I came to two realizations: 1, Disney is actually a pretty great place to race, at least if you start near the front, and 2, challenges are not for me. I need sleep!After Princess I got like a three-week cold, which was horribly annoying. This rather derailed my plans for the rest of the spring, but I did eventually end up racing some parkruns once I got back to DC. Three parkruns and two PRs (one of them exceptionally muddy!) later, I learned that 5Ks are hard, and racing in the heat is really hard
. But parkrun is great!After a brief break, it was time to start marathon training...but more importantly, it was time for the Olympics! What a great two weeks. Can we do it again next year?
During my marathon training, I ran the DC Half at my expected marathon pace, and it went shockingly well, which was a nice boost. Plus I got to meet Des Linden at the pre-race party!
Finally, it was time for the culmination of my running year: the Marine Corps Marathon. It was chilly (though possibly not as chilly as the marathon next weekend!) and hurt more than any other race I've ever run, but I came out of it with a shiny new PR and only two and a half minutes from a BQ!
Post-MCM, I headed back to Florida so I wouldn't be cold (ha) and have been taking it pretty easy since then, just getting back into Princess training at the beginning of December. And so the cycle begins again!
So that was the chronology. As for the numbers, in 2024, I...
ran 2,060 miles (an average of just under 40 mpw!) did just shy of 97 hours of strength/core/yoga/Pilates (I figured out how to find this on Strava!) notched 4 PRs (10K, 5K, M, HM) officially and two more unofficially wrote myself 3.5 training plans (I had to revise my spring training into two plans after I got sick; hence the .5)I also more than doubled my mileage from when I started running regularly in 2022 (though in fairness the "running regularly" did not start until like April) and added 200+ miles from last year.
Thanks everyone for following along! I can't wait to see what we all achieve in 2025!
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December 30, 2024 - January 5, 2025
Half marathon training week 5 | 49 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I have to add extra numbers to the date line
Monday
Yoga
I forgot to stop my watch, so it thinks I did an extra 5 minutes or so.
Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 20 min @ LTP + 3 min RI + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 1 mile CD
8.4 miles, avg. HR 158, max 187
Lower body strength
Oof. So. What happened was...I went way too fast on the 1 min intervals, which really screwed me on the threshold interval. That was rough. Although actually, if you adjust the pace for the T+D, I was supposed to be running like 7:40, and in real life I ran 7:50, so it wasn't quite as bad as it looked. Just moderately bad. My legs did feel like they were dying though.
I ended the last interval a few seconds early, officially because I was coming to a sharp turn at basically a sprint and I thought I might die trying to make that turn, but also just because I thought I might die generally.
This was also my first run with the Coros armband, but I think it actually matched up decently with what my watch says most of the time. We'll see how it goes in future runs, and then I might be recalibrating my zones slightly again.
Wednesday
Recovery: 4.8 miles (10:35), avg. HR 135, max 161
I had a quiet NYE (by choice lol), and the air quality actually wasn't that bad in the morning. My legs were tired though.
Thursday
Easy/strides: 6.3 miles (9:41), avg. HR 144, max 173
Upper body strength
Despite a chilly early morning, it warmed up enough by the time I ran that it was pretty nice out.
Friday
Easy/strides: 6.3 miles (9:38), avg. HR 145, max 170
Core
My arms were sore. It was another chilly morning, but I was fine once I got going. My armband does seem to read a lower HR on easy runs but especially at the beginning of a run.
Saturday
Easy/pickup: 9.1 miles, avg. HR 150, max 180
Total body strength
It's cold here. It's not supposed to be cold here. That's why I come to Florida in the winter. (Although I did check the weather in DC and it was 31/FL 13 at 1 p.m., so I guess I'm still coming out ahead? That sounds truly awful.)
Anyway, otherwise I felt fine, though running mile 8 into a decently strong headwind was less than ideal. I managed my effort better than last week, which was good because I have a harder progression run coming up next week.
Also, that plank circuit is SO much harder than it looks.
Sunday
Long: 14.5 miles (9:18), avg. HR 154, max 179
It felt very cold when I was walking my dog first thing in the morning, but it warmed up quickly. I took the first five and a half miles pretty easy, but when I got to the hill I put in a little more effort. There is only one hill and it is 5.5 miles away, so I have to make the most of it when I can.
Unfortunately there seemed to be some kind of gearhead convention at the intersection at the bottom of the hill. A bunch of people were standing around taking photos of over-embellished cars with nonfunctional mufflers as they looped around. And since I ran up and down the hill seven times, I saw a lot of them.
But once I finished with the hill, it was fairly quiet, and I couldn't bring myself to slow down. As I was listening to SWAP, they were talking about finishing long runs with higher output - either strides or a fast finish - and I had the brilliant idea to try that. The fast finish, not strides, because strides seem like a significantly higher injury risk. But still, moral of the story, don't listen to your brilliant ideas at mile 10.
So I did run the last mile or so at something close to HMP, because why not. And now my legs are tired.
Oh, the other thing I've been working on is more fueling (another SWAP influence). I realized my gels only have like 20g of carbs, and if I have one of those every 40 minutes, even with some Skratch, that's only like 35g/hr. They're talking about at least 70g/hr. So I had a bit more fuel this time, though I definitely didn't get that high. Baby steps.
I also wanted to see if I would have a problem if I had a GU (which is not isotonic) with Skratch instead of plain water. I tried it at like 1:45 (so that if I did have a problem, at least I would be almost done), and the only thing I noticed was a slightly s'mores-flavored burp a couple minutes later. I will keep experimenting.
Totals
Running: 7h 49m, 49.4 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h 12m
Total: 10h 1m
But subtract 5 minutes from forgetting to stop my watch after I finished my yoga.
Coming up
No MW races for me, but I am planning on going to HH on Friday. If I can spectate the marathon after my long run, I will do that too (depending on what time our house guest arrives).
Half marathon training week 5 | 49 days until Princess Half Marathon
In which I have to add extra numbers to the date line
Monday
Yoga
I forgot to stop my watch, so it thinks I did an extra 5 minutes or so
.Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 20 min @ LTP + 3 min RI + 4 x 1 min @ 1MP/2 min RI + 1 mile CD
8.4 miles, avg. HR 158, max 187
Lower body strength
Oof. So. What happened was...I went way too fast on the 1 min intervals, which really screwed me on the threshold interval. That was rough. Although actually, if you adjust the pace for the T+D, I was supposed to be running like 7:40, and in real life I ran 7:50, so it wasn't quite as bad as it looked. Just moderately bad. My legs did feel like they were dying though.
I ended the last interval a few seconds early, officially because I was coming to a sharp turn at basically a sprint and I thought I might die trying to make that turn, but also just because I thought I might die generally
.This was also my first run with the Coros armband, but I think it actually matched up decently with what my watch says most of the time. We'll see how it goes in future runs, and then I might be recalibrating my zones slightly again.
Wednesday
Recovery: 4.8 miles (10:35), avg. HR 135, max 161
I had a quiet NYE (by choice lol), and the air quality actually wasn't that bad in the morning. My legs were tired though.
Thursday
Easy/strides: 6.3 miles (9:41), avg. HR 144, max 173
Upper body strength
Despite a chilly early morning, it warmed up enough by the time I ran that it was pretty nice out.
Friday
Easy/strides: 6.3 miles (9:38), avg. HR 145, max 170
Core
My arms were sore. It was another chilly morning, but I was fine once I got going. My armband does seem to read a lower HR on easy runs but especially at the beginning of a run
.Saturday
Easy/pickup: 9.1 miles, avg. HR 150, max 180
Total body strength
It's cold here. It's not supposed to be cold here. That's why I come to Florida in the winter. (Although I did check the weather in DC and it was 31/FL 13 at 1 p.m., so I guess I'm still coming out ahead? That sounds truly awful.)
Anyway, otherwise I felt fine, though running mile 8 into a decently strong headwind was less than ideal. I managed my effort better than last week, which was good because I have a harder progression run coming up next week.
Also, that plank circuit is SO much harder than it looks
.Sunday
Long: 14.5 miles (9:18), avg. HR 154, max 179
It felt very cold when I was walking my dog first thing in the morning, but it warmed up quickly. I took the first five and a half miles pretty easy, but when I got to the hill I put in a little more effort. There is only one hill and it is 5.5 miles away, so I have to make the most of it when I can.
Unfortunately there seemed to be some kind of gearhead convention at the intersection at the bottom of the hill. A bunch of people were standing around taking photos of over-embellished cars with nonfunctional mufflers as they looped around. And since I ran up and down the hill seven times, I saw a lot of them
.But once I finished with the hill, it was fairly quiet, and I couldn't bring myself to slow down. As I was listening to SWAP, they were talking about finishing long runs with higher output - either strides or a fast finish - and I had the brilliant idea to try that. The fast finish, not strides, because strides seem like a significantly higher injury risk. But still, moral of the story, don't listen to your brilliant ideas at mile 10
.So I did run the last mile or so at something close to HMP, because why not. And now my legs are tired.
Oh, the other thing I've been working on is more fueling (another SWAP influence). I realized my gels only have like 20g of carbs, and if I have one of those every 40 minutes, even with some Skratch, that's only like 35g/hr. They're talking about at least 70g/hr. So I had a bit more fuel this time, though I definitely didn't get that high. Baby steps.
I also wanted to see if I would have a problem if I had a GU (which is not isotonic) with Skratch instead of plain water. I tried it at like 1:45 (so that if I did have a problem, at least I would be almost done), and the only thing I noticed was a slightly s'mores-flavored burp a couple minutes later
. I will keep experimenting.Totals
Running: 7h 49m, 49.4 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h 12m
Total: 10h 1m
But subtract 5 minutes from forgetting to stop my watch after I finished my yoga.
Coming up
No MW races for me, but I am planning on going to HH on Friday. If I can spectate the marathon after my long run, I will do that too (depending on what time our house guest arrives).
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