You must be swift as the coursing river (as long as it's the Lazy River) - comments welcome

Yea it looks to me just like you were reversing the training load trend from Mile training -> Short break -> Marathon training and your body just took a bit to adjust. Think of training load like the Titanic. While it feels like taking that short break should have rejuvenated you, sometimes it makes you slower because the training load has dropped and you aren't in peak shape anymore. It just takes some time to turn the boat around and get things headed in the other direction again. The data suggests everything should be more smooth sailing as the 8/20 and 8/4 run are comparable. Moving forward, you'll probably go back into that medium level fatigue in a constant state because you're in the midst of a marathon training plan. At least that's what I see in the data.
 
Yea it looks to me just like you were reversing the training load trend from Mile training -> Short break -> Marathon training and your body just took a bit to adjust. Think of training load like the Titanic. While it feels like taking that short break should have rejuvenated you, sometimes it makes you slower because the training load has dropped and you aren't in peak shape anymore. It just takes some time to turn the boat around and get things headed in the other direction again. The data suggests everything should be more smooth sailing as the 8/20 and 8/4 run are comparable. Moving forward, you'll probably go back into that medium level fatigue in a constant state because you're in the midst of a marathon training plan. At least that's what I see in the data.
Sometimes training impacts are just not intuitive at all 🧐 Thanks!
 
August 21 - 27, 2023
Marathon training week 3 | 21 days until DC Half. 91 days until Space Coast Marathon

In which the mosquitos are a menace

Scheduled
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ID: This week's schedule

Actual
Monday
Easy/strides: 6.15 miles, 1:05:49 (10:41), max HR 170, avg. 147, 98% Z1-2

I was a bit tired from Sunday's 14 miles and didn't really want to run 6. But I did. My effort/pace was maybe a little better?

I had gotten a pair of adidas Ultraboost Lights on sale recently and tried them out on a couple of runs. They've been okay, but running strides in them I felt my heel slipping around - they don't have the extra hole for a heel lock. So I'm thinking they're just going to be for recovery runs with no speed at all.

Pilates

Kind of a mix of Pilates and core, actually.

Tuesday
Easy: 6.05 miles, 1:06:56 (11:04), max HR 162, avg. 150, 100% Z1-2

As I mentioned last week, I had an early call schedule for Tuesday morning, so I swapped my easy run and my workout. It was definitely for the best - after a few runs of feeling better, I felt pretty blah again. Really I was tired from the moment I woke up, so not the greatest run.

core

I had some core work in my Pilates routine yesterday and some Pilates in my core routine today. Actually several of the same exercises, which wouldn't necessarily have been my preference but was fine.

mini upper body strength

I decided to keep this on Tuesday, and I think I like the time balance better so I might keep doing core and mini upper body strength together instead of having the two strength workouts be on the same day.

Wednesday
Progression: 2 mile WU + 2 miles @ MP (8:38/8:27 GAP) + 2 min RI + 2 miles @ HMP (8:08/8:03 GAP) + 2 min RI + 1 mile @ LTP (7:56/7:40 GAP) + 1 mile CD
8.39 miles, 1:16:53, max HR 190, avg. 163


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ID: Strava pace analysis chart

The weather was much better than last Tuesday's and shocker, so was my workout. Even the last mile into the sun where I had to stop last time was fine, although the steep hill at the end was not my favorite. Anyway, even though I was pretty sure last week's struggles were just due to heat exhaustion and not lack of fitness, it was good to confirm! I was a little fast on my paces but not too bad.

lower body strength

Thursday
off

Friday
Medium-long: 9.05 miles, 1:36:35 (10:40), max HR 171, avg. 153, 97% Z1-2

It was mostly cloudy for this run but increasingly humid (dew point +4º over the run).

mini lower body strength

I didn't love this one.

Saturday
Easy/strides: 7.06 miles, 1:15:18 (10:40), max HR 174, avg. 152, 93% Z1-2

A steamy morning. My right foot ached for probably the second half of the run, and my right knee eventually joined in the uncomfortable party. Nothing too bad - it didn't have any impact on my gait - but something to keep an eye on. My Ghosts have close to 400 miles on them now, so that might be the problem.

upper body strength

I looked at the video I had scheduled and went "meh", so instead I just did the basics while catching up on some World Athletics Championships coverage. NOBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THURSDAY I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. Ahem 😇

3x10:
Chest press/wide row
Bicep curl/tricep kickback
Overhead press/dumbbell pullover

Sunday
Long: 16.04 miles, 2:46:44 (10:23), max HR 179, avg. 156, 87% Z1-2
Surprisingly good! I wasn't sure what to expect because I haven't run this much since the marathon, but felt relaxed the whole way. All the shade on CCT was nice, and the last few miles mostly in the sun were tough but I switched to music with about 2 miles to go when I ran out of podcasts on my playlist, and that kept me going at a good pace. Probably a little faster than I should have been effort-wise, but at least I got done sooner! Happy with that.

Somewhat ironically, "Don't Stop Me Now" came on as soon as I finished my run, so I walked inside singing "I'm gonna make a supersonic man outta you" to my dog. He was not impressed 🤣

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ID: My dog laying on the couch with his head over the armrest, looking Not Impressed

I wore a new pair of NB 880s and didn't have any issues with my feet or knees, so the issues yesterday seem like they're maybe shoe-related. I also wore my Nathan hydration vest because I used the Salomon one on Friday, and it turns out that carrying liquid in the front and back of this vest makes it lay kind of awkwardly. So I will probably try not to do that in the future.

After the run, of course, I walked the dog and went to the farmer's market, and now my legs are quite tired, but overall I feel good about being able to hit a solid 16-miler in week 3 of marathon training.

Totals
Running time: 9h 8m
Running distance: 52.75 miles

Strength/mobility: 1h 35m
Total time: 10h 44m


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ID: Strava weekly training log

A big week, but I was happy with how it went.

Coming up
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ID: Next week's schedule

A nice down week after my highest mileage ever.
 
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August 28 - September 3, 2023
Marathon training week 4 | 14 days until DC Half. 86 days until Space Coast Marathon

In which my toe grows a tumor

Scheduled
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ID: This week's schedule

Actual
Monday
Easy: 4 miles, 45:45 (11:23), max HR 142, avg. 131, 100% Z1-2

My legs were still pretty tired from Sunday's 16 miles, and my right ankle was feeling a little sore, so I skipped the drills and strides and just did 4 super easy miles to get the blood flowing. By the end I did feel a bit better, and hey, at least my cardio system was fully recovered! Check it out:

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ID: Strava HR analysis - 50.6% Z1, 49.4% Z2. This never happens.

Pilates

Not a bad one for tired legs.

Tuesday
Easy + strides: 5.44 miles, 55:44 (10:14), max HR 176, avg. 147, 93% Z1-2

Even though my legs were feeling decent, I decided to give them an extra recovery day just in case and moved my workout to Wednesday. Other than a few people not paying attention when they're turning into a crosswalk 😑, it was a good run despite the humidity.

core

No weights for me.

mini upper body strength

I didn't want to do overhead tricep extensions because the dumbbell always gets caught in my hair, so instead I did a set of tricep kickbacks and a set of skull crushers.

Wednesday
HMP intervals: 1 mile WU + 2 x 3 miles @ HMP/3.5 min RI + 1 mile CD
8.69 miles, 1:18:39, avg. HR 170
T+D = 144 | Adj. pace: 8:31
Interval split paces/GAP: 8:25/8:14, 8:06/8:00


Overcast but very humid. The first rep was a slog, but I switched to music for rep #2 and felt better. (Plus it's more downhill coming back, so that helped too.) Most of the extra speed in #2 comes from the last mile, when I thought to myself, "You know, I'm racing a HM in 2.5 weeks and I haven't done a lot at faster paces - maybe I should include more of that." So the last mile was probably more like (somewhat adjusted) threshold pace. And then I came home and realized, "Wait, I totally have done faster intervals" and I guess I just had a running brain moment 🤷‍♀️

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ID: Strava workout analysis chart

No issues during the run, but I didn't feel great afterwards. At what point do you start carrying electrolytes in addition to plain water?

lower body strength

Those jumping lunges were tough.

Thursday
off

Actually I was kind of sad about this because the weather was finally nice! But there were a couple more nice days in the forecast.

Friday
Medium-long: 8.1 miles, 1:26:10 (10:38), max HR 167, avg. 153, 98% Z1-2

A shockingly nice morning for the first day of meteorological fall. I took a slight detour and found myself on a trail for a couple of miles. The trees were nice, but I didn't particularly enjoy the foliage nibbling at my legs. They itched afterwards. Also it was harder to manage my effort on the trail - it was pretty flat, but I had to look out for roots and rocks and things so I wouldn't trip. I don't do a lot of trail running, and I guess it shows...

mini lower body strength/Pilates

Saturday
Easy + strides: 5.88 miles, 1:00:54 (10:21), max HR 172, avg. 154, 91% Z1-2

Okay. I had a hard time keeping it easy, partly because of the nicer weather and partly because argh, why are so many people biking on the sidewalk? But overall it was fine.

upper body strength

Like the balance exercises, hate the dumbbell drops.

Sunday
Fast finish long run: 6 miles easy + 5 miles @ MP (8:30) + 1 mile CD
12 miles, 1:55:47, avg. HR 156

MP splits/GAP: 8:45/8:55, 8:27/8:31, 8:32/8:31, 8:27/8:24, 8:28/8:25

Well, there goes the nice weather. It was definitely warmer and steamier this morning, but I felt decent. I was trying to keep my MP miles slower than my theoretical training pace (8:36), and I did...for the first mile. Oh well. I definitely need some more practice, but it's still early days, and I at least never felt like I was struggling. I thought it would be a good idea to have a cool down, but...it was like 80º out and I was running uphill with very little shade, so I'm not sure how much of a cool down it actually was.

Side note: the blister on the inside of my big toe that has been annoying me all week now looks like a tumor, and I'm really tempted to just pop it. Hmmm...

Totals
Running distance: 44.14 miles
Running time: 7h 22m

Strength/mobility: 1h 35m
Total time: 8h 58m


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ID: Strava weekly training log

I like how 44 miles is a down week now 🙈

This week I discovered that you can designate runs as workouts in Strava, so now I guess I get stripy bubbles in addition to the normal solid ones.

Coming up
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ID: Next week's schedule

Back up in mileage a bit, but mostly easy...which is good because it's going to be super hot again 😭

Also apparently I am running a half in two weeks?? It's kind of snuck up on me.
 
No issues during the run, but I didn't feel great afterwards. At what point do you start carrying electrolytes in addition to plain water?

I don't usually carry water until I get to runs over 60 min. At that point, I add a Nuun tablet or two to my 1.5-L reservoir (hydration vest). But that doesn't have any calories - when needed, I do those via solid food.

Also it was harder to manage my effort on the trail - it was pretty flat, but I had to look out for roots and rocks and things so I wouldn't trip. I don't do a lot of trail running, and I guess it shows...

All the roots and rocks and things are what make trail running an adventure! And they definitely slow you down - that, plus the energy spent digging into the softer surface and the hills. What trail did you end up on? I don't think I run far enough south to get into your area of DC, but curious.
 
September 4 - 10, 2023
Marathon training week 5 | 7 days until DC Half. 77 days until Space Coast Marathon

In which it is hot

Scheduled
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ID: This week's schedule

Actual
Monday
Easy: 5 miles, 56:07 (11:12), max HR 157, avg. 144, 100% Z1-2

I had almost forgotten that it was Labor Day, but the weirdly quiet Monday morning definitely clued me in. It took about a mile to work the fatigue out of my legs, and I still took it super easy for the rest of the run. I think I might adjust my schedule so that Mondays are just 3-4 mile recovery runs, because the last couple of weeks make it seem like that's what I need after my long run (at least while it's this hot out. Recovery might be easier when the weather cools off).

I did do the drills before I started, but I skipped the strides (see above re: fatigue).

Pilates

Tuesday
Fartlek: 8.28 miles, 1:23:59, max HR 185, avg. 161

UGH. So gross. At least past me gave present me a flexible workout. I just did short, fast intervals with fairly long breaks for the most part. It still sucked.

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IDs: Workout analysis graph and lap chart

lower body strength

So, so drenched 😅

Wednesday
Easy: 6.28 miles, 1:08:31 (10:54), max HR 166, avg. 151, 99% Z1-2

This heat wave is very unpleasant. I'm always tired. I did okay keeping it easy but should have slowed down more going uphill.

core
mini upper body strength

Somehow I missed adding a mini upper body routine for this week, so I just did one set of ten each for some basics: bicep curl, tricep kickback, overhead press, pullover, chest fly, close row, lateral raise, ventral raise, push-ups.

Thursday
off

I was not mad. It was still hot. I did some yoga in the evening.

Friday
Medium-long: 10.06 miles, 1:50:56 (11:02), max HR 164, avg. 152, 100% Z1-2

It was sunny and steamy and the first few miles were a real struggle for whatever reason. After that I felt a bit better - still slower than normal, but it's been a very hot and humid week so that's not unexpected.

mini lower body strength

Saturday
Easy + strides: 6.27 miles, 1:07:23 (10:43), max HR 172 bpm, avg. 172, 96% Z1-2

I was expecting a nice, quiet Saturday morning run. What I got was a massive running group all around me and a biking event on the road. The running group, in particular, was kind of overwhelming because there were probably 200 of them doing not a very good job sharing a fairly narrow path. I'm all for running groups, but I do wish they would be more considerate in planning and sharing their routes sometimes. I am fine with crowds at races because I am prepared for them, but as I was not at all prepared for these people, I was starting to feel pretty claustrophobic.

Anyway, on the bright side, I happened to see @striker1064 (or more accurately, he saw me, since I never look closely at people when I'm running), and we said a quick hello. He did know about the cyclists, who were apparently participating in an annual event, but neither of us had a clue about the runners. I peeled off a little after that to try to escape the crowds, which worked until it didn't, and eventually @striker1064 passed me again as I turned to head back home. So that was kind of a weird run, but at least there were some positives!

upper body strength

The one-side-at-a-time format is interesting and different, but the timed intervals weren't really working for me so I just did 10-12 per set and then stopped.

Sunday
Long: 15.12 miles, 2:38:46 (10:30), max HR 167, avg. 152, 99% Z1-2

It was nice to have some cloud cover, even if it was still moderately warm and humid. There were even some sprinkles, which I appreciated. I felt okay on this run, but my legs got pretty tired, especially around mile 9-13. I kind of just wanted to be done then but all my long runs are straight out and back so I would not have gotten home any faster if I'd stopped. Hopefully I have sufficient endurance for next week's HM.

I have been trying different, non-gel types of fuel lately. For this run I did a GU first, then some Honey Stinger chews. I don't hate them, but I do find the ones I've tried so far a little sickly sweet. Then I tried a Lara bar, which was almost bland after the Honey Stingers. It was a nice change and I didn't have any issues, so I will keep trying those. I think they would be good marathon fuel because they're less sweet and they have some protein as well as carbs.

Fueling question: (most) gels require water to metabolize. Is that a gels-only thing, or do you need plain water for actual food too? Trying to figure out what liquid I should carry at races, water or Skratch.

Totals
Running distance: 51.04 miles
Running time: 9h 5m

Strength/mobility: 1h 58m
Total time: 11h 4m


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ID: Strava weekly training log

AKA what happens when you're running a lot of miles extra slowly because it's ridiculously hot.

Coming up
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ID: Next week's schedule

Race week! I've got a bit of a taper, and I did adjust to give myself an easier Monday, but it's not as much of a taper as I would have given myself for an A race. I've done some HM-pace work in the early weeks of this block, but again, it hasn't been the focus, and we're only 5 weeks in. So I definitely won't be at my peak HM fitness. Still, my fitness in general is a lot better than last year, and the preliminary forecast is looking pretty decent. So I feel pretty certain that I can beat my PR from the same race last year (1:52:51) and reasonably confident about a sub-1:50. Beyond that, we'll see what happens.

More than time, though, I'm treating this event as racing practice for the marathon. I really want to go out conservatively on purpose (not just because the start is crowded) as I have a tendency to start off too fast. So I plan to start out around 8:25-8:30 for the first couple of miles and gradually bring it down from there. My HM pace for training purposes has been 8:11, so I feel like that's a decent starting point. I guess I'll find out on Sunday.
 
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It was good to see you out there Saturday! Good luck this weekend - I'll be on the lookout for you! The forecast looks maybe about like it was last year?
 
Fueling question: (most) gels require water to metabolize. Is that a gels-only thing, or do you need plain water for actual food too? Trying to figure out what liquid I should carry at races, water or Skratch.

Not a gels only thing. Needing 2oz of water per g carb is pretty universal unless it's one of the hydrogel technologies or something that is pre-made to be isotonic. So if you consume a waffle or a nutrition bar, you'd still want to try and make sure to consume adequate water to properly absorb the carbs.
 












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