You might get a thousand dollars stimulus package

[Farro]

Um, can I still go to Disney next May though?

 

[Colleen27]

If that happens you're probably looking at a civil war.

Or at least civil unrest. I agree. Especially since the initial breaking point will likely come in places where people feel they can distance adequately without draconian measures - that is, more small town and rural areas with more armed residents.

 

[sghokie]

The $1000 stimulus is lame. They should instead give full or as close as possible to 100% unemployment benefits for people who lose their jobs due to the situation. For the people who get laid off $1000 isn't even going to be a months worth of rent.

 

[fsjking]

My husband and son are likely both headed for layoffs now that the Big 3 have announced that they're suspending production.

This is going to get bad quicker than I thought. That won't be the last factory to shut down. What happens when the Charmin plant gets a worker positive with covid? Or Kellogs? Or the dairy? Supply chain could become an issue here. Not to mention even more people out of work and broke.

 

[Colleen27]

The $1000 stimulus is lame. They should instead give full or as close as possible to 100% unemployment benefits for people who lose their jobs due to the situation. For the people who get laid off $1000 isn't even going to be a months worth of rent.

But our unemployment system only helps the traditionally employed who are laid off. It doesn't help gig economy workers, it doesn't help people who have been forced to quit jobs because of the virus, it doesn't help families who are still working but have seen their childcare costs skyrocket because the kids are out of school, etc. So expanding that is a flawed solution as well. The $1000 will come on top of existing unemployment protections for those who do qualify for UE and will also be there as some small measure of help for those who don't.

 

[Colleen27]

This is going to get bad quicker than I thought. That won't be the last factory to shut down. What happens when the Charmin plant gets a worker positive with covid? Or Kellogs? Or the dairy? Supply chain could become an issue here. Not to mention even more people out of work and broke.

Between multiple brands and multiple production sites within some brands, the supply chain for most of our essentials is decentralized enough that it should hold up. If Charmin has to close, there will still be Northern and Cottonelle. If Kellogg closes, we'll eat General Mills. Unless every producer across an entire product category experiences positives among the workforce simultaneously, it will be more a matter of substitution than shortage. And most of those workplaces don't have a union calling for total shutdown to protect its members, as the UAW did with the automakers. The bigger issue will be the people out of work and broke.

 

[Dead2009]

Buy food and Switch games.

 

[smmco]

Um, can I still go to Disney next May though?

I think so. I’m planning on it. I think they should reduce capacity by allowing only onsite guests. I know wishful thinking. I came across an article and I can’t remember where. It was about having virtual lines through the app.

 

[BMB777]

Um, can I still go to Disney next May though?

Most likely so. Corona is still going to be around but I doubt we are going to go through this shutdown process against next year.

 

[tinkerhon]

The $1000 stimulus is lame. They should instead give full or as close as possible to 100% unemployment benefits for people who lose their jobs due to the situation. For the people who get laid off $1000 isn't even going to be a months worth of rent.

I like a proposal from another politician ( name not important right now)
Proposal Is for $2,000 per qualifying American and $1,000 for each child, each month, until people are back working again

 

[ScottOKW2K]

I'll probably spend it fast cars, young women and old liquor.

Them I'll probably waste the rest!

 

[BMB777]

I like a proposal from another politician ( name not important right now)
Proposal Is for $2,000 per qualifying American and $1,000 for each child, each month, until people are back working again

If they qualify it, they will need to find a way to still send the money to people who didn't file taxes because they were under the threshold.

 

[tinkerhon]

If they qualify it, they will need to find a way to still send the money to people who didn't file taxes because they were under the threshold.

Latest article I read states that unlike the previous "stimulus" , those that qualify ( most recent I read is under $75K to qualify) , people would not have to fill out anything - including filing tax return.

 

[Farro]

Latest article I read states that unlike the previous "stimulus" , those that qualify ( most recent I read is under $75K to qualify) , people would not have to fill out anything - including filing tax return.

Again, $75,000 was the cut-off in 2008. It's 12 yrs later, that number is far, far too low.

I can do without it, but it still annoys me. I am not well-off and my job is in danger also. But alas, it's par for the course -being single (non-married but living together) and having no kids always leaves us left behind.

 

[BMB777]

Again, $75,000 was the cut-off in 2008. It's 12 yrs later, that number is far, far too low.

I can do without it, but it still annoys me. I am not well-off and my job is in danger also. But alas, it's par for the course -being single (non-married but living together) and having no kids always leaves us left behind.

I'm sorry but if you are personally making over $75,000 and you don't have kids, you don't really fit the profile of someone living paycheck to paycheck. And my understanding is it is those people that the stimulus is targeting.

 

[tinkerhon]

Again, $75,000 was the cut-off in 2008. It's 12 yrs later, that number is far, far too low.

I can do without it, but it still annoys me. I am not well-off and my job is in danger also. But alas, it's par for the course -being single (non-married but living together) and having no kids always leaves us left behind.

Could end up being lower - reports yesterday stated $65K - but some say $90K - so, it's wait and see.

 

[BMB777]

Latest article I read states that unlike the previous "stimulus" , those that qualify ( most recent I read is under $75K to qualify) , people would not have to fill out anything - including filing tax return.

I guess my question would be how do they know whether someone is making under $75k if they didn't file taxes? You can assume they probably didn't but there are no guarantees.

 

[Farro]

I'm sorry but if you are personally making over $75,000 and you don't have kids, you don't really fit the profile of someone living paycheck to paycheck. And my understanding is it is those people that the stimulus is targeting.

Oh please. There are two of us and he is an interior painter and all his scheduled jobs have been cancelled from here on out, so no money coming in on his end and no paid time off for that.
We pay $1850 in rent which is the norm in our city.
We've been through things in the past couple years that wiped our savings.
You have no clue what our cost of living is but now we are living on my salary alone. But no, at this moment we wouldn't need it.

My friends who have kids own Tattoo shops, made well over the cut-off last year. Right now they have no money coming in, yet still have to pay rent on the shop.

My friend who owns a restaurant claimed well over proposed cut-offs last year. Right now they have no income, still have to pay rent and are trying to still pay their employees. They live paycheck to paycheck keeping the restaurant afloat on a normal day.

Just because some may live in a town where $45,000 is the average income does not mean all of us do. We are firmly middle to lower class where we live, not upper.

 

[Dznypal]

Does anyone know if us retirees getting SS and just my DH gets a pension or is it for those that are laid off or permanently lost there jobs. Either way I feel sorry for them

 

[bushdianee]

I'm not sure if I would get anything being retired. I am making it but by no means living lavishly. My sister is working from home and has 2 school age kids so I am taking them a few days a week to help them with their school assignments and also to let her work uninterrupted. I am giving them breakfast and lunch the days they are here so my grocery bill is going up. I also have a young teenage niece who's parents are still working. She is coming over to spend part of the day with me so she isn't home alone all day so she eats lunch here also.