You go CM's

[sunny45]

OK. Sorry in advance for the hijack, but you all are scaring me! I am glad the CM in the OP removed the line jumpers, but we have now veered into possibly needing to leave the line and catching back up. We have decided to forgo GAC's for our trip in september since the crowds should be light all the days we will be in the park with the exception of Sept. 13. I have 2 DD with T1 diabetes. A very hidden disease. My girls look to an outsider as extremely healthy and able bodied, but if we have a hypoglycemic incident it can happen at any time any where. I guess I wrongly assumed that if it happened when we were in line I could jump out and run to a food cart quick and grab something (we try to keep emergency snacks on hand, but it doesn't always happen, especially since there are 2). But reading through these posts it is pretty clear that I would get some grief trying to get back to my girls with an armful of sweets. I guess we will be having some long discussions in my house about whether or not to do a GAC now. And i will preemptively add now, that I will not be announcing to everyone in line that we are having a diabetic emergency. It is not my place, it is my girls disease, not mine, and I will not further burden them by possibly embarrassing them. Sometimes they just want to be normal, especially on vacation.
I know that there are rude/mean/insensitive/narcissistic people out there. But sometimes we truly dont know what someone else might be going through. If I were to be stopped multiple times in the above mentioned situation it could mean going from simply treating a low BG, to spending the day in ICU.

I feel that you should get in line and if you need to get out of line for that reason just do it. Sorry you are worrying about this. No one needs an explanation of what you are doing either.

There are also people who need to use the bathroom (adults who have bladder, stomach or kidney issues and children who need to go b/c they are children and just do) and they should be able to let go while another party or members of their party hold their position in line. These reasons are not changing the amount of people in line.

Holding the line while others are riding another ride, therefore adding 4 additional people to the line, is not copacetic.

 

[aliceclones]

I feel that you should get in line and if you need to get out of line for that reason just do it. Sorry you are worrying about this. No one needs an explanation of what you are doing either.

There are also people who need to use the bathroom (adults who have bladder, stomach or kidney issues and children who need to go b/c they are children and just do) and they should be able to let go while another party or members of their party hold their position in line. These reasons are not changing the amount of people in line.

Holding the line while others are riding another ride, therefore adding 4 additional people to the line, is not copacetic.

With all the drama over GAC abuse, I am just feeling that at this point we are darned if we do darned if we don't. I know that the majority of people will mind their own business, but all it takes is a few choice words to really put a damper on a day!

 

[lovebug33]

I really think a lot of this stuff about line hopping, etc., is just this board. I have been to DL and WDW numerous times and I've never questioned why people are going back into line. Now, if they are obvious line cutters, yes. But you should be fine if you are getting something for your girls to eat or if you need to use the restroom. And, I've rarely witnessed people going into line.

 

[pixiewings71]

So just to be sure since this fall will be our first trip doing DL with another family of three, it would be considered inappropriate, for example, if the other mom and I took the kids on Dumbo, and told the DH's to go get in-line for Star Tours, and we will meet you. Then she and I, with the kids find DH's in-line and join them??? I truly am asking, so please let me know. I get irritated when people downright cut the line, but hadn't really considered the scenario I just gave. Thanks!

IMO this is line cutting and would not be OK. Just get FP and ride together. Or just wait together.

Given that dumbo will have a short line and then you have at least 20 min of travel time from MK to DHS I would think by the time you get to Star Tours DH would have been done with the ride.

Now if you meant Space Mountain I still think its wrong but at least more probable to happen.

Ya, this is the DisneyLAND board, you're talking about WDW. Totally different scenario.

What if it's just two adults waiting in line and it's long and one of the adults has to go to the rest room leaving the other adult there waiting....is that appropriate?

We always seem to talk about taking the child to the bathroom but some adults have to go too

Unless there is a medical reason 2 adults should be able to stop in the bathroom between rides. I know when DBF and I go alone we have no problems at all going to the bathroom and not having to get out of the line to do so.

OK. Sorry in advance for the hijack, but you all are scaring me! I am glad the CM in the OP removed the line jumpers, but we have now veered into possibly needing to leave the line and catching back up. We have decided to forgo GAC's for our trip in september since the crowds should be light all the days we will be in the park with the exception of Sept. 13. I have 2 DD with T1 diabetes. A very hidden disease. My girls look to an outsider as extremely healthy and able bodied, but if we have a hypoglycemic incident it can happen at any time any where. I guess I wrongly assumed that if it happened when we were in line I could jump out and run to a food cart quick and grab something (we try to keep emergency snacks on hand, but it doesn't always happen, especially since there are 2). But reading through these posts it is pretty clear that I would get some grief trying to get back to my girls with an armful of sweets. I guess we will be having some long discussions in my house about whether or not to do a GAC now. And i will preemptively add now, that I will not be announcing to everyone in line that we are having a diabetic emergency. It is not my place, it is my girls disease, not mine, and I will not further burden them by possibly embarrassing them. Sometimes they just want to be normal, especially on vacation.
I know that there are rude/mean/insensitive/narcissistic people out there. But sometimes we truly dont know what someone else might be going through. If I were to be stopped multiple times in the above mentioned situation it could mean going from simply treating a low BG, to spending the day in ICU.

I have blood sugar issues and will sometimes need a snack while in DL. I don't usually carry snacks with me but I know when I need a snack. With your kids I would be sure to never run out of snacks, if they eat what you've brought in with you then simply buy something before you get in line. If you don't want to explain to those around you why you're leaving the line and then coming back it would be best to have snacks with you. They sell things like pretzels, fruit and other items that can be resealed with ease.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I have to admit I have thought about the "how often do they really need to go" aspect of kids having to hop out of line and I do think it is just that parents do not take bathroom breaks as part of their planning but rather wait until the demand presents itself.

When we are going anywhere - I say "go use the washroom" and I don't care how many "I don't have to" I hear - just go and then we should be good for at least a few hours.

If anything my kids found we needed to go to the bathroom far more frequently than they - so the whole kids need to go argument is some what questionable from my perspective.

I agree with this. Every time we pass a bathroom, I ask if anybody has to go. If I know we're about to get in line, get in the car, etc I make everybody try even if they say that don't have to (99% of the time they actually do). I think there has only been once that we've had to leave a line with a child and that was TSMM (90 min line) and a newly potty trained child...and had there not been an easy place to meet back up in line without pushing past people, they would have just skipped the ride.

My point more was I wouldn't begrudge a child who did have to go to the bathroom in the middle of a line.

 

[aliceclones]

pixiewings71 - As i said, I do try to keep things with me, but as anyone with kids knows, not everything goes the way you had planned. The kids may grab food out of the bag without telling me, or the girls my treat a low without informing me, thus using up supplies. So again, I will do everything to avoid this situation, but life happens.

 

[aliceclones]

You go Mama and I agree.

This! Getting older sucks! Lots of my lady friends complain that after having kids they dont always get much warning when they need to go, and when they do need to go, they need to GO! Better to go and feel comfortable and endure a few glares than being uncomfortable and risk an embarrassing accident!

 

[Disney Dudette]

I have always felt there is a difference in a parent & child (or single adult) trying to catch up to their group than a group trying to catch up to their single person holding the spot.

Completely agree with you!

 

[larina]

....We have decided to forgo GAC's for our trip in september since the crowds should be light all the days we will be in the park with the exception of Sept. 13. I have 2 DD with T1 diabetes. A very hidden disease. My girls look to an outsider as extremely healthy and able bodied, but if we have a hypoglycemic incident it can happen at any time any where. I guess I wrongly assumed that if it happened when we were in line I could jump out and run to a food cart quick and grab something (we try to keep emergency snacks on hand, but it doesn't always happen, especially since there are 2). But reading through these posts it is pretty clear that I would get some grief trying to get back to my girls with an armful of sweets. I guess we will be having some long discussions in my house about whether or not to do a GAC now....
I know that there are rude/mean/insensitive/narcissistic people out there. But sometimes we truly dont know what someone else might be going through. If I were to be stopped multiple times in the above mentioned situation it could mean going from simply treating a low BG, to spending the day in ICU.

If I were in your position I would make sure to have lots of snacks on hand (Is fruit still recommended over candy/sweets for low BG? That could be hard to find quick) and replenish them as they are used/eaten. And maybe reconsider the GAC, then you don't have to explain anything to anyone, whereas in the other scenario, you really do. People expect an explanation of why someone doesn't wait in the entire line with the rest of their party and, frankly, without a reasonable one, like a couple of others have said, I'm not letting you "cut" in. And unfortunately, your situation, without explanation, appears like you just ran off for snacks instead of waiting in line, which is a bit like cheating the system.

 

[MRA5]

This! Getting older sucks! Lots of my lady friends complain that after having kids they dont always get much warning when they need to go, and when they do need to go, they need to GO! Better to go and feel comfortable and endure a few glares than being uncomfortable and risk an embarrassing accident!

Yup this happened to me with the matterhorn. im a mommy and my bladder is not great now. I had to leave the line and meet my hubby again at the front bc he was in the packed in line. The cm told me to wait by the side. No one wants to have an accident on these bubmpy rides. I think one or two people is ok yes....but not hoards of groups....and some of the lines are hard to get back into.

 

[Gisele]

The best way to avoid all of this interesting controversy is to do what Liz Taylor did to celebrate her last (I believe it was) husbands birthday, which was to rent the park. That way, you may do whatever (Within reason) one may care to do, and when. I love that idea. It would be just awesome.

 

[pixiewings71]

pixiewings71 - As i said, I do try to keep things with me, but as anyone with kids knows, not everything goes the way you had planned. The kids may grab food out of the bag without telling me, or the girls my treat a low without informing me, thus using up supplies. So again, I will do everything to avoid this situation, but life happens.

You asked, I answered. I have 3 kids, yes life happens but I've always been lucky enough to have enough snacks for the girls and myself on hand, if I don't have them on hand we manage to grab a snack before getting in line. Maybe it's because I am hypoglycemic and know what I need so I've been able to avoid it with the kids. My oldest DD didn't even know she had the same problem until she was living on her own, she would skip a meal, her blood sugar would fall and she'd pass out. Her Dr. told her not to do that anymore. lol

If I were in your position I would make sure to have lots of snacks on hand (Is fruit still recommended over candy/sweets for low BG? That could be hard to find quick) and replenish them as they are used/eaten. And maybe reconsider the GAC, then you don't have to explain anything to anyone, whereas in the other scenario, you really do. People expect an explanation of why someone doesn't wait in the entire line with the rest of their party and, frankly, without a reasonable one, like a couple of others have said, I'm not letting you "cut" in. And unfortunately, your situation, without explanation, appears like you just ran off for snacks instead of waiting in line, which is a bit like cheating the system.

Oh look, someone who agrees with me. I'm with Larina, if it is that much of a problem then just get the GAC.

 

[Freesia123]

I've posted this before but I'll chime in again. To me, if you'll be riding in the same seat as the rest of your party (same dumbo for example) and you won't cause others to wait longer I see nothing wrong with joining your party in line. If you are going to take a different seat (2 dumbos) then you need to wait the whole time. Just my opinion

 

[goooof1]

The best way to avoid all of this interesting controversy is to do what Liz Taylor did to celebrate her last (I believe it was) husbands birthday, which was to rent the park. That way, you may do whatever (Within reason) one may care to do, and when. I love that idea. It would be just awesome.

Love it!!

 

[MickeyFan18]

I guess im in the minority here... Would I line jump, no, but would we send a runner to the churro cart 30 min in to a 2 hr TSMM line, yes! I guess our family has always felt that as long as we start together it is ok. Oh and there must also be an easy way back into line. We definitely do not push our way thru!

 

[GhostlyHitchhiker]

I guess im in the minority here... Would I line jump, no, but would we send a runner to the churro cart 30 min in to a 2 hr TSMM line, yes! I guess our family has always felt that as long as we start together it is ok. Oh and there must also be an easy way back into line. We definitely do not push our way thru!

See, we don't like to inconvenience ANYONE so we would never line jump unless it were an emergency. I have never had to get out of line to take the kids to the bathroom (and I've taken then consistantly since they were months old) - I agree with PP's, ask more regularly or take them when they say no they don't have to pee. So many kids will be overstimulated and say no until they have an accident. Be a parent and make sure *you* aren't overstimulated and wanting to cram in more than humanly possible.

I see this behavior time and again (especially during summer for some reason) where the parents are rushing, trying to do EVERYTHING and the kids are having melt-downs. The parents turn around and scream at the kids for "crying at the Happiest Place On Earth" like it's their fault (I literally heard this two summers ago). I'm certainly not saying everyone (or anyone) here does this, but take the time to make sure you're making it as magical for those around you as some of us are trying to make it for you... I've let flustered parents ahead of me in the restroom, in line for food, waiting for shuttles at the end of the day (And had to wait for the next one when *I'm* exhausted too), at shops, even on rides because I know what it's like (mine are teens/tweens now).

That said, I think there is a *huge* difference between sending a "runner" for water for a dehydrating person, or a diabetic who is crashing (I have low blood pressure and get dehydrated easily to boot and in the summer time we could *all* have water bottles and still run out halfway into our line on Grizzly or Splash Mtn) or even churros/whatever to help with the wee ones in line vs. one person standing in line and sending four + others to "ride some other stuff cuz this is gonna be awhile" and then catch up/line jump later.

 

[SPOERLX3]

I guess im in the minority here... Would I line jump, no, but would we send a runner to the churro cart 30 min in to a 2 hr TSMM line, yes! I guess our family has always felt that as long as we start together it is ok. Oh and there must also be an easy way back into line. We definitely do not push our way thru!

I completely agree!
And if I saw another family do the same thing, it wouldn't bother me at all to let them back in.
There is a clear difference in the kids/families that are trying to jump the line or the " family line holders" with 1 family member holding a place in line for one ride while the rest of the family enjoys another ride vs 1 or 2 persons in a family that need a snack or realize they must go to the rr and they leave the line and come back to their family.
I think you put it perfectly- If your family starts in the line together, it is ok and as long as there is an easy way back in line.

 

[pixiewings71]

I guess im in the minority here... Would I line jump, no, but would we send a runner to the churro cart 30 min in to a 2 hr TSMM line, yes! I guess our family has always felt that as long as we start together it is ok. Oh and there must also be an easy way back into line. We definitely do not push our way thru!

RSR line has vendors walking through selling things like ice cream, soda, water, popcorn. I didn't see churros but did see (and buy) the others.

 

[SPOERLX3]

RSR line has vendors walking through selling things like ice cream, soda, water, popcorn. I didn't see churros but did see (and buy) the others.

So great to know this!! Now if they could solve the rr issue

 

[madjohn]

So if we are in line for 45 minutes and my 6 year old son has to use the bathroom, what should I do? Make my whole family get out of line? Or maybe me and my son should just start all over in line. You either don't have kids or never took them to a theme park with long lines with their little bladders.
I tell people on my way out of line along withy the CM at the entrance, then I remind them on my way back in, if you are polite people will be polite back. These "jumpers" are the exception, so please don't lump parents and kids in with them.

I have kids (now 13 and 10) and have been taking them to parks since they were 40" tall, I have never reentered a line if we got out or caught up with others. I make sure, as a parent, I know how long the line is when we get in and make sure the kids use the restroom before entering the line. I tell them that they need to go if they got to and that we all get out of line if anyone needs to go after waiting. Like all things we do with our kids, we are teaching them all the time, by our words and our actions.

John