Yee Haw Bob Sexual Harrassment

[ashley0139]

True. But are we also just supposed to believe any and all accusations made? No matter what?

Accusations have literally nothing to do with what I posted. It's dangerous to give someone the benefit of the doubt because you like them.

But now that you mention it, I do tend to believe accusations that are made. False accusations are such a rare occurrence it would be silly not to.

https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf

"Research shows that rates of false reporting are frequently inflated, in part because of inconsistent definitions and protocols, or a weak understanding of sexual assault. Misconceptions about false reporting rates have direct, negative consequences and can contribute to why many victims don’t report sexual assaults (Lisak et al., 2010). "

 

[declansdad]

When, exactly, did one's buttocks become a sexual body part? Absolutely it depends exactly where he allegedly grabbed.

No, same complaint after being interviewed in direct relation to the alleged assault.

Wow, it doesn't matter what body part it is. If it is unwanted, it is unwanted.

 

[LittleMissMagic]

When, exactly, did one's buttocks become a sexual body part? Absolutely it depends exactly where he allegedly grabbed.

Whattttt... when has a butt not been a sexual body part? Just listen to music, watch television, look at advertisements... the butt has been sexualized for decades! Should we rank the sexualization of our body parts - 1) genitalia 2) breasts 3) butt (and really the order of breasts/butt is debatable considering both men and women have butts).

Also, I would argue that there is a noticeable difference between squeezing and a light accidental pat.

 

[JaxDad]

The $500 check from Disney is bad, no matter what really happened.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Wow, it doesn't matter what body part it is.

Okay, so if you grab my arm, it's sexual assault. Interesting.

 

[BillSears]

This is so sad to hear. I tend to believe the accuser in almost all cases even in this one.

I haven't read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned that Bob has Aspergers? I've been told by multiple CMs that Bob has turned his Aspergers traits into this high energy non-stop show that he does. Once I was told this I started noticing odd things here and there that he does that are explained by Aspergers. I'm not trying to excuse this behavior but I am wondering if this is a social cues type of thing that Bob just didn't understand.

 

[AngiTN]

Accusations have literally nothing to do with what I posted. It's dangerous to give someone the benefit of the doubt because you like them.

But now that you mention it, I do tend to believe accusations that are made. False accusations are such a rare occurrence it would be silly not to.

https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf

"Research shows that rates of false reporting are frequently inflated, in part because of inconsistent definitions and protocols, or a weak understanding of sexual assault. Misconceptions about false reporting rates have direct, negative consequences and can contribute to why many victims don’t report sexual assaults (Lisak et al., 2010). "

They don't? I'm not sure how accusations have nothing to do with this. They have everything to do with this. Every report starts with an accusation. Either true or not, believed or not, that's where it all starts.

Otherwise I do agree with you, how much you like, or dislike someone should have NOTHING at all to do with giving someone the benefit of the doubt.

Someone shouldn't automatically be thought of as guilty because you don't like them anymore than they should be automatically thought of as not guilty because you do

You do have way more faith in others than I do. I think people make false accusations as a way to get back at someone way too often. And every one of them hurts real victims.

 

[declansdad]

Okay, so if you grab my arm, it's sexual assault. Interesting.

It could be, depending on the situation. It could definitely be assault.

 

[MJ6987]

This is so sad to hear. I tend to believe the accuser in almost all cases even in this one.

I haven't read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned that Bob has Aspergers? I've been told by multiple CMs that Bob has turned his Aspergers traits into this high energy non-stop show that he does. Once I was told this I started noticing odd things here and there that he does that are explained by Aspergers. I'm not trying to excuse this behavior but I am wondering if this is a social cues type of thing that Bob just didn't understand.

Wow, I didn't know that but it does make sense now you mention it. My daughter has Aspergers and misunderstanding of social cues is definitely one aspect, another is failing to understand about "personal space" - that's one that my daughter struggles with and it can make people uncomfortable (something which she then fails to pick up on!)

By the way, things like this make me think that we are not a million miles away from Characters not being allowed to touch guests at all, just to remove any potential for claims. Which would be sad.

 

[ashley0139]

They don't? I'm not sure how accusations have nothing to do with this. They have everything to do with this. Every report starts with an accusation. Either true or not, believed or not, that's where it all starts.

Otherwise I do agree with you, how much you like, or dislike someone should have NOTHING at all to do with giving someone the benefit of the doubt.

Someone shouldn't automatically be thought of as guilty because you don't like them anymore than they should be automatically thought of as not guilty because you do

You do have way more faith in others than I do. I think people make false accusations as a way to get back at someone way too often. And every one of them hurts real victims.

I meant that accusations had nothing to do specifically with what I posted, specifically about liking someone having nothing to do with whether they did it or not.

Did you even look at the link I posted? The false accusation numbers are already small, and even then they're inflated. You can think that if you want, but it doesn't make it true.

 

[AngiTN]

Michelle Scribner
@scribmac
Nov 10

In 2013 I was groped by @WaltDisneyCo performer YeeHaw Bob. I had a witness, she took a photo but that wasn’t enough. I was told my story was unsubstantiated. What does it take? #metoo


So I take it the photo proved nothing, and, that, perhaps, is why it wasn't posted?

That is curious. Many ways to take that. Possible the photo showed a different story than hers. Possible you just couldn't tell from a still photo was was happening.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Whattttt... when has a butt not been a sexual body part? Just listen to music, watch television, look at advertisements... the butt has been sexualized for decades! Should we rank the sexualization of our body parts - 1) genitalia 2) breasts 3) butt (and really the order of breasts/butt is debatable considering both men and women have butts).

Also, I would argue that there is a noticeable difference between squeezing and a light accidental pat.

There's also a noticeable difference in where on one's buttocks one is grabbed or squeezed. Low hip is entirely different from low center.

 

[AngiTN]

I meant that accusations had nothing to do specifically with what I posted, specifically about liking someone having nothing to do with whether they did it or not.

Did you even look at the link I posted? The false accusation numbers are already small, and even then they're inflated. You can think that if you want, but it doesn't make it true.

I don't need to read stats that I know can be skewed to show whatever side someone wants to show.
We all know of cases where reports of sexual abuse were false. They've been proven. They exist. I didn't say they were common. But they do exist. Just 1 is enough to know it can happen. If it's happened once it can happen again.

 

[ashley0139]

I don't need to read stats that I know can be skewed to show whatever side someone wants to show.
We all know of cases where reports of sexual abuse were false. They've been proven. They exist. I didn't say they were common. But they do exist. Just 1 is enough to know it can happen. If it's happened once it can happen again.

Yikes. Okay then. If you think that false reports are the serious problem plaguing society and won't even look at reports, I don't even know what else to say.

 

[Hikergirl]

Michelle is now encouraging her followers to write to Disney's President and the Orlando Sentinel with email addresses helpfully provided. This isn't going to end well for Bob.

4 years later. Social media existed way back in 2013 why wait all this time?
She is playing on the whole "me too", she knows that an accusation will be the death of his career because people will just believe her now.

I do think that if he did this he should be fired, but that should have happened years ago. Her timing, and her lack of showing proof (or what she says is proof) makes me doubt her story.

 

[Hikergirl]

Yikes. Okay then. If you think that false reports are the serious problem plaguing society and won't even look at reports, I don't even know what else to say.

That is quite a leap you took there. That isn't what she said and you know it.

 

[BigAlsGal]

I REALLY want to see this photo!!

I mean there’s a big difference between this:


And these:

 

[ashley0139]

That is quite a leap you took there. That isn't what she said and you know it.

Well she is far more focused on the few false allegations that there are rather than the MANY actual sexual assaults that go unreported.

 

[kaytieeldr]

It could be, depending on the situation. It could definitely be assault.

Assault, Yes. Sexual assult? Only according to this statement:

Wow, it doesn't matter what body part it is. If it is unwanted, it is unwanted.

 

[SaintsManiac]

4 years later. Social media existed way back in 2013 why wait all this time?
She is playing on the whole "me too", she knows that an accusation will be the death of his career because people will just believe her now.

I do think that if he did this he should be fired, but that should have happened years ago. Her timing, and her lack of showing proof (or what she says is proof) makes me doubt her story.

Holy cow! This is why women remain silent. What a world.