Year around school?

What about whether related days off, here in the northeast that could totally disrupt the track schedule.

Here weather days due to hurricanes and/or snow are made up on Saturdays if you attend a school that is on a year round calendar. When kids have to make up a day on a Saturday, they normally only go for a half day.
 
I would have to see the schedule, but I think I would be all for it. I HATE having to schedule vacations during peak periods. Think how much money I could save at Disney this way.

I don't see how it would disrupt kids playtime. Mine play everyday even with homework! If they aren't having family and play time with the current system, I think it wouldn't matter if they spread the breaks out or not.



Sorry, your data here doesn't add up.

365 days a year
260 week days approx.
105 weekend days approx.

So you are having the kids go to school 230 to 245 days then have all these breaks, it's not adding up. I can't see how they would go that many more days.

I think we should look at other schedules that fit our modern life and not adhere to a school calendar that was created when this was an agrarian society.

These are all 'dates and ideas' that are being thrown out there right now. There are people fighting for a 230 day a year school year in our area. THE MOST people WHO DO support year around school are Pushing hard for those few extra days off over the holidays (like 3 weeks over C-Mas instead of 2). Those 3 weeks aren't in ADDITION to what we have now- it's only one extra week (5 extra days)...) I believe that the people who are pushing for the 230 day year are IN SANE! A lot of them seem to be the parents who could care less about where their kids are...if it's daycare or school, what's the difference to them.

I was still a little upset about the idea of year around school even WITH those extra days off here and there.

NOW, one I heard about the tracks and that they'd go for several weeks, have a few off and follow a pattern, I'm actually not minding THAT idea- but When I heard "year around" being 230 (plus or minus) being offered I was to the point of being ANGRY! I didn't know how many other options there were until I asked here, because I've not heard, read or talked about this much with anyone until it was starting to be an issue in my area.

I am 100% againsed the 230 (plus or minus) school days in a year!!! I believe that most people are. I can't imagine that.

I am now more understanding in what OTHER OPTIONS there are and they sound like ok- maybe even good- options.

I didn't understand it either- but now it makes sense to me how people are fighting for all-year, but longer breaks. I hope that works out and the best decisions are made.
 
During my elementary years ( in the 70's) I lived in MI and attended year round school. I loved it, my sister loved it, both of my parents loved it.

I wish it was offered here in FL for my kids.

When I was a student we went to school for 9 weeks and had 3 off, back to school for 9 weeks, and 3 more off, and so on.
Our district chose a year round schedule over increasing taxes to build more schools.

Our schedule was nice because we were able to vacation when most families were at home due to school schedules. It also made it easier for my parents to request vacation time. The typical weeks kids are out of school are very popular for vacation requests at work. Since we had a non traditonal school schedule vacation requests were a breeze.
 
Here weather days due to hurricanes and/or snow are made up on Saturdays if you attend a school that is on a year round calendar. When kids have to make up a day on a Saturday, they normally only go for a half day.

Oh, I would Hate that- considering our hockey schedules here...Hockey is very big here and a lot of our Sat. mornings in the fall, winter and a little into the spring are spent at the arena- or we're scheduled to do other things. I can't imagine how ticked my kids would be if they had to go to school on a Saturday!
 

I would actually, because I'm not one to give my location- but it is in the mid west- not in ILL. though.

Without knowing where you're talking about, we can only get one side of the story so it's pretty hard to debate. As someone else said, the numbers that you've given just don't add up.

I have searched and came up with a school district in IA that is talking about "year round" school but they are talking about adding 10-12 days not going 230+ days a year.
 
Oh, I would Hate that- considering our hockey schedules here...Hockey is very big here and a lot of our Sat. mornings in the fall, winter and a little into the spring are spent at the arena- or we're scheduled to do other things. I can't imagine how ticked my kids would be if they had to go to school on a Saturday!

Here we do run into sports on the weekends, but usually we don't have to make up too many days. Though this year we had more snow than normal. Luckily we didn't have any hurricanes.
 
Here weather days due to hurricanes and/or snow are made up on Saturdays if you attend a school that is on a year round calendar. When kids have to make up a day on a Saturday, they normally only go for a half day.

I don't think that would go over too well here :laughing:

I wouldn't have an issue with year round school here, but I don't think it should be instituted until the district goes through a complete overhaul first otherwise it would be like putting a band-aid on a shark bite.
 
I would be open to a year-round calendar using the track system that some southern schools use. It would actually be nice to be able to take a vacation on "off-peak" times. My husband will NEVER go to Disney in the summer, so for us, it is either pull the kids out of school for a few days, or pay a fortune and fight Christmas week or Thanksgiving week crowds. It is really expensive and crowded to go ANYWHERE those weeks, plus, that is a big time for families to get togehter. It seems like it would save school districts and taxpayers money...the building is there, and many maintenence and office staff work year round anyway, why not use the existing buildings rather than have to build new ones? As a working parent, I am concerned about chilld care/camp availibility during the breaks, but from what I know about areas where they do have the year round track system, there are camps and other options available.....which would actually boost the economy by providing services and therefore jobs year-round vs just in the summer.
 
I like the idea in theory, but have never seen it work well in practice.

In theory, I love the idea of the school year and vacation time being more spread out. Summer break is too long IMO; the kids are bored and climbing the walls by halfway through. Better to have shorter breaks more often than the outdated agrarian schedule we follow now. It would also make the issue of vacation during the school year less of a problem. My DH works in a highly seasonal profession and with middle school looming, we're looking at the end of whole-family vacations because the kids can't miss school when DH can get off work and DH can't get off work during the summer vacation.

But in practice, year round school would likely be a nightmare for my family. Why? Because where it has been implemented in my area it has only been at the elementary level. That's fine if your kids all attend the same school, but once you have one in middle/high school and another still in elementary, they're on completely different schedules and planning anything as a family becomes a total mess - you basically only have the (super-expensive, super-crowded) days around major holidays available for traveling. Plus there is the issue of camps and activities, all of which assume a normal school schedule. Sure, they'd adapt if year-round ever became the norm, but in the meantime those are opportunities kids who attend year-round just don't have access to. With both my kids active in scouting, I'd hate for them to lose out on those summer events/programs because of an innovative school schedule.
 
Just curious, but why are you against them?
I'm against this for many reasons but in fairness most of them are because of what works best for our family. DS always had a lot of camps and other activities during the summer. As a teen, I hope that he will work during the summer and also have some down time. He is in sports and while the idea of different tracks sounds interesting, I don't see how that would work when it comes to competitive sports. I think that year-round school would be easier in this regard for elementary kids though.

I also think that our town's expenses would increase primarily due to our excessive summer heat and the high cost of cooling. Schools here are pretty much abandoned during much of the summer. Many teachers also do other things during the summer such as another job or they take classes.

Then there is summer school. I suppose that could be somehow scheduled but it seems confusing.
 
My cousin is a teacher in a year round school and LOVES it. She loves her random time off, the kids seem to retain more, etc.

I don't think I could ever do it. I love June-August summers waaayyy too much, and even though I'd be getting the same amount of time off, I couldn't imagine being in the classroom in July.
 
I will say that year round can only be offered in elementary and middle school. Once kids hit high school, the 4 track year round option would not work due to college acceptance and things of that nature. Now we do have a few high schools that are on modified calendar, which they start in mid july and end at the same time as traditional. Their holidays are laid out a bit differently.

As to sports in middle grades, if you are tracked out you are still required to attend practice. If your family is going on vacation, then you have to talk to the coach.
 
excessive summer heat and the high cost of cooling. Schools here are pretty much abandoned during much of the summer. Many teachers also do other things during the summer such as another job or they take classes.
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That is part of my thought as well. When there is no school ALL summer- that is 3 months of not turning on the air cond. and using the electricity...if someone is always there (or almost always there) they still have to use these things (wether it be all of their students there, or just 1/2 of the regular numbers)...

A LOT of teachers here in this area have summer jobs as well. That is how they can afford to be teachers. They choose a 12 or 9 month salary...they get paid the exact same, just depends on how much their check is every month. If they worked for the full 12 months at the school with a few weeks off here and there, I would hope that they'd get paid more? Right? Then, where is THAT money coming from?

OR if they don't WORK more, they still MAKE LESS because they aren't able to get that 3 month summer job that some of them NEED. How are they going to get an extra 'pick up' job if they work at the school 4 weeks, then have 2 weeks off (or what ever the schedule is)???

I'm not saying this because I'm doubting how the system works for year-around school. I just question these things. I am looking for honest answers on how that works.
 
i would love to see year round school. Like pp said they wouldn't go to school more days. Their breaks would be more spread out. It would be great to have 2 week breaks throughout the year. You could still go to camp and on summer vacations during your 2 week breaks.

My kids have plenty of time to be kids during the school year. Thats what weekends are for. We supplement their education during the summer to help them retain what they learned during the school year. Summer is just too long to go without some learning.

I think it is a sad waste of time that the kids spend so much time in the fall reviewing things they learned last year. If they were learning year round they wouldn't have to do that.

I don't think this would solve all the education problems, but i still think it would be a good thing.

i totally agree!!!!
 
DD goes to a year around school. I don't like it at all. The main reason is that with so many breaks it is hard to get them in a routine for school. The teacher is constantly writing in her little newsletter to remind the kids to calm down and do their best as they are excited about the upcoming break or the one they just got back from.
 
Our elementary schools have mostly been on the year-round schedule for many years. We love it. We have the 4 track system that others have described. Each track is on 9 weeks, then off 3. In addition, there are 2 weeks in the summer and 2 weeks over Christmas that everyone is off at the same time. I love that my kids don't forget so much on their breaks, because their breaks are only 3 or 5 weeks, not 10. We love having time off when most are in school to go on vacation. WDW is cooler, cheaper and less crowded in October/November than in July! We love the long winter break because we love to ski. Teachers follow the same schedule their students do, but admininstrators needs to work year-round.

Most of the elementary schools in our area offer off-track child care, usually in a mobile classroom on the school grounds. Since there is always one track off, they have a steady flow of students coming to child care year-round. Some of the private child care centers in the area offer the same thing. They have one classroom for the school aged kids, and the kids that come rotate throughout the year.

What we don't like: Kids usually stay on the same track the whole time they're in that school, so they get to know the other kids in their class really, really well, but they hardly get to know the kids in the other three classes, unless they have other activities with them. While the kids love being with their best buddies each year, they also might get stuck with the same bully year in and year out, and of course, they may never get to meet the person who might have been an even better buddy.

Our track is one of the two where breaks coincide with the 2 all-school breaks, so my kids have four breaks, 2 3-week and 2 5-week, and are always in school for 9 weeks straight. Some think the other two tracks get too choppy, with six breaks, 4 3-weeks and 2 2-weeks. They might be off 3 weeks, back on 3 weeks, back off again 2 weeks. Some families like it, some don't. Personally, I don't think I'd like that schedule, either.

Middle and high schools have traditional schedules, so when you have kids in both, families are on different schedules.

As someone mentioned, our district implemented the schedule to save money. Each building can hold more students since one quarter of them are always off, so less schools had to be built. Yes, there are more costs associated with a/c in the building in the summer, bussing year-round (somewhat aleviated by the fact that you are always bussing just 3/4 of the kids, so less buses are needed on any given day) and administrator's salaries, but those add up to much less than the cost of building a whole new school. Of course, now we've hit the point where our district has so little money they're moving many schools to the traditional schedule, laying off teachers and overcrowding the classrooms. :sad2:

My BIL taught in a year round district and preferred the schedule to the traditional schedule he grew up with. The big question for me is how do these school districts that go year roound compare to those that don't? Are they ranked better?
Our district does very well, but I wouldn't claim that the calendar is the reason. I do believe kids retain more over the short breaks, but there are so many other variables, I would doubt it really makes that big a difference.

What about whether related days off, here in the northeast that could totally disrupt the track schedule.
There are always a certain number of days that the kids can miss before needing to make them up, and so far, we haven't reached that point, since my kids have been in school. The whole school is closed for 2 weeks in the summer, so I guess they'd make up the time during those days if need be.
 
A LOT of teachers here in this area have summer jobs as well. That is how they can afford to be teachers. They choose a 12 or 9 month salary...they get paid the exact same, just depends on how much their check is every month. If they worked for the full 12 months at the school with a few weeks off here and there, I would hope that they'd get paid more? Right? Then, where is THAT money coming from?

OR if they don't WORK more, they still MAKE LESS because they aren't able to get that 3 month summer job that some of them NEED. How are they going to get an extra 'pick up' job if they work at the school 4 weeks, then have 2 weeks off (or what ever the schedule is)???

I'm not saying this because I'm doubting how the system works for year-around school. I just question these things. I am looking for honest answers on how that works.

Some of the teachers that I know work as subs while they are off track. It is probably harder for them to find a second job, but I haven't heard much talk about it, so I don't know.
 
Our district was toying with the idea of making one of the elementary schools a year-round school. According to the person in charge of collecting data, they only received 17 letters from parents in the entire district that had any interest in it. I know there are a few elementaries in the metro Detroit area that have successfully implemented it, however, they are few and far between. Most are on a traditional summers off schedule.

My reasons for not liking the idea? Child care would be a bear to find for me. The school district was not planning to offer child-care options during our blocks off. I can't think of anywhere I could sign my kids up for only a couple weeks at a time - especially since I work only 3 days a week. I don't like the fact that for a few years, DS would have a completely different schedule that DD. Try finding childcare for that mess! Not to mention, when in the world are you going to find time to schedule family vacations with one going to a year round option and the other traditional? I also think there would be much less time at home when the weather is nice and they can play outside, and much more time at home when the weather is cold and snowy. I really don't want my kids parked on the couch whining that there's nothing to do when it's 5 below 0 outside. At least when it's summer, I can tell them to move it on outside so I don't have to listen to the whining.;)
 
I can't tell you how much I would love for this to happen. I would love to have my kids' time off in various parts of the year instead of a huge break in summer. I would love to to lose that last two weeks of every school year watching movies and cleaning classrooms. I would love for teachers not to have to waste the first 3-4 weeks of a school year reviewing the year before.

Families and communities would adjust. Change is always difficult but this would be a change for the better IMO.
 
I would hate it. I live in the northeast. We get so little nice weather that it would stink for the kids not to have the summers off. It's painful to keep the kids entertained for the week and a half we get at Christmas, let alone three week blocks at other times. As a working mother, it would be my worst nightmare.

My sister lives in the West and their schools are year round. She's got three kids and she hates it.
 






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