Yavn Speaks 4/4 - More rule reminders and a small update on a sporting event.. yawn!

Some of us were never a part of the disgruntled crowd before though. I joined that crowd at 12:02 p.m. Tuesday 4/1/08. I know many joined at just about the same time.


I've never been a player with a sense of entitlement to everything in the game but this whole situation is just different. There are more disgruntled people that you can lump into that "complains about everything" category although yes, someone is always going to complain about something as i said before. That's just the way it is in any competitive sport...and yes, vmk is a competitive sport so it seems in many ways. ;)
 
Pirate Pin Packs... $15 x 23

Blu-ray... $30 x 5

Disney DVD's... $24 x 4

Tank of Gas driving to the Parks... $70

Annual Pass... $379

For a FREE game, $1040 is a lot of money that could easily have been spent elsewhere.

Cut the ********, Yavn. I have complained for over a year that you don't update your newsletter regularly with new updates for the game, yet here you are posting twice in one week. You sure are doing as much as you possibly can to make your loyal fanbase hate the game.

(Note: If the DIS Language Security System didn't convert my "eccentricities" to something acceptable, then I'll edit immediately)

I totally agree. This is what I was saying ealier. First of all, he or who ever wrote the newsletter, needs a rewriter. You just don't talk like that to customers is so correct. There are other companies who offer free services as Disney does but you never hear something like this. They never say, "Hey! This is a free service we offer. If you don't like it, too bad" Just typing this out I realized something. This is more of the same attitude they have given us lately. See my other posting for my comments on that issue.

Anyway, other companies usually have a type of blog spot on their site for people to complain, ask questions or just comment on their site. The management then responds to member concerns there.

If VMK is to here to push their other products, they have been doing a wonderful job of it. However, with the recent issues with the quest and the recent past issues we have dealt with lately, I believe someone else should be doing the event planning. The way they are going, they will be losing more customers daily. I know a handful of members that have just quit recently because of these issues we discuss here. These are folks that visit the theme parks on a regular basis, purchase disney products like there is not tomorrow.

Just my two cents
 
EGAD! No! That would be soooo not fair to those who worked and worked all weekend to earn theirs.

Open the quest again.

That gives those who didn't get to finish, the time VMK took away from them. It also LOWERS the value of the goods that the cheaters got.

Yeah, there really is no easy answer but let's face it, it's no different than dreams ears being given out as TDM prizes and how many people said you should appreciate the sentimental value over the change in value. ;) Plus, it isn't as if silver ears are the only rare prizes the quest winners received. Sooner or later I'm sure they will be released again anyway.

I'm all about reopening the quest although I see a potential problem with this. Vmk gives little or no notice and then nobody knows about it and comes back online to get all hot and bothered again when they find out they missed the opportunity.
 
I take the newsletter saying the game is free as a way to tell those of us unsatisfied with the horrid decisions and planning lately to shut up and leave them the heck alone. Maybe that's just me though. :rolleyes:

To the decision makers: Don't just quote Walt's words. Live by them. Umm, did he ever stand around blaming the guests to their face for mishaps? No. Did he always put the guest experience at the top of his list? Yes. Did he always stress excellent customer service? Yes. VMK needs to quit this practice of bringing Walt into it before they get started because I have a hard time believing Walt would throw one bit of some of this garbage at us, the loyal fans like some people at VMK do. We are Disney fans, and many of us spend a lot of dough in the parks, on movies, and for Pirate pins; so no, when something is done horribly wrong and no apology is made, I will not just shut up. Sorry to disappoint you. You can't intimidate most adults like you can some children.

I still say we need to go higher than the Black Hole with our concerns and complaints. Talking like whoever this person is does to the guests is unacceptable, in my mind. They still have jobs and should be expected to actually do them, not just ignore complaints and concerns because it's a "FREE" game. Now there's an idea! :idea: People running this game actually admitting their own mistakes and not blaming it on other players or the Yeti!
 

Yeah, there really is no easy answer but let's face it, it's no different than dreams ears being given out as TDM prizes and how many people said you should appreciate the sentimental value over the change in value. ;) Plus, it isn't as if silver ears are the only rare prizes the quest winners received. Sooner or later I'm sure they will be released again anyway.

I'm all about reopening the quest although I see a potential problem with this. Vmk gives little or no notice and then nobody knows about it and comes back online to get all hot and bothered again when they find out they missed the opportunity.

My objection to giving it all away has nothing to do with "value" it has to do with respect for players that worked through the quest, helped friends and strangers, and completed the challenge. Giving it all away would just be an insult to each and every one of them.

Put a very nice newsletter together saying that a small set of players were cheating the system and those who manage VMK didn't know how to stop it so they made a quick, incorrect decision and ended the quest. State that the team realizes in retrospect that this hurts the masses who were doing the right thing and helps those who were attempting to cheat the system. Therefore, the quest will return for 3 days on ________________ from open to close.

And show VMK players that you can own your mistakes and make good.

To the decision makers: Don't just quote Walt's words. Live by them. Umm, did he ever stand around blaming the guests to their face for mishaps? No. Did he always put the guest experience at the top of his list? Yes. Did he always stress excellent customer service? Yes.

People running this game actually admitting their own mistakes and not blaming it on other players or the Yeti!
Egad Donald! From the way you talk 1 might think you are actually learning good "stuffz" in that grad school of yours.......... Go figure. :wizard:

I agree with your post 100%.
 
ROFL, ok, I will buy it.... But, you have to remember, the VMK programmers do not work for Disney, they work for Sulake, which is based in Houston, which in turn has starting salaries for media designers listed all over hotjobs and such for well over $100k a year.

and let me tell you, from living in the northeast myself, there is no chance any programmer would woirk in NYC or Boston for under $100k - honestly, it is nearly impossible to own a half decent house here on a salary under $60k - and thats after the market crash.

I feel like we have our own sidebar here LOL.

Apprarently Sulake provided the platform...and now all programmers etc. are Disney employees. Kind of like SAP, Oracle etc, provided ERPs to major companies with Big 6 (now 4) consulting firms implementing but then transitioning out. Same thing happened here with this. Typical contract job.

As for the Media Design Jobs yeah they are doing well...however even with the price of things in the Northeast...it is still bleak unless you have 10+ years experience. Some get it, however jobs are few and far between. Hence all the foreclosures and people moving out of the city with a $4000/mo mortgage on a 2 Bedroom place. Believe me I would love nothing more to make 6 figures being a programmer....yet unless you are super specialized...and I mean really specialized it is just not what it used to be which is unfortunate.

The one thing I would love to know more than anything else though is what is VMKs operating budget each year. The technology hasn't changed so it is more talent and hardware that is the cost. But again without a cashflow coming in, I can't see how they can keep a sizable staff and get paid well. Just doesn't logically make sense to me and you don't need to go to Wharton or Kellogg to tell you that.
 
Egad Donald! From the way you talk 1 might think you are actually learning good "stuffz" in that grad school of yours.......... Go figure. :wizard:

I agree with your post 100%.

Thanks Dreams. Graduation in 37 days, whoo-hoo! ;) But on a serious note, I almost feel like at times the higher ups think we are not intelligent enough to discern the difference between speaking words and actually acting on them. Words mean nada when the action isn't there to back them up. And clearly some people need to realize that.
 
I am not sure what everyone expects.

I guess I would expect a simple apology and maybe just a tiny piece of the quest prizes I ALMOST finished for my daughter. My daughter loves VMK and ears are her favorite. She didn't even care about the magic or other "rare". She was dreaming of princess ears since she began, and went crazy at the sight of new silver ears. She tried the quest on her own at first. After some tears were shed, I had to cut her off of VMK until the quest was over. No child should have to cry while playing a Disney game. While she was at school, I came across a great team (you know who you are) that helped me through #16. I had only a handful of tasks to complete when VMK stopped the quest. :sad2: Thank God I never told my daughter I was playing for her.

She will of course move on and get over it, but I'm not sure I can. This game uses the "Happiest Place on Earth" as its backdrop. I don't think Walt would be smiling down on us if he saw the heartbreak that VMK caused so many kids last weekend.
 
If by "won," you mean, "completed the quest," I would fall into that category and I have become VERY bitter about VMK from this nightmare that they created. I am trying to find the magic again, but am so hesitant to get excited about anything in VMK after what they did on Tuesday and the complete lack of respect for the players. Again, I stress this is NOT in reference to in-game hosts / staff, but the decision makers.
I too "won" the quest but I consider this a Pyrrhic victory.

A heroic failure is no consolation to my loyal teammates who could've crossed the finish line if they didn't sacrifice their turns to the dream crushers who betrayed us to win the prize. Even with that setback, they could've won if VMK stuck to the original deadline they publicly advertised for three out of four days.

Anyone remember the uproar over last year's Chicago Marathon, when the 26.2 mile race shut down after 3.5 hours? Imagine if they blasted the bullhorns at the 25th mile, when even the laggers could sprint their victory lap in a matter of minutes.

The powers-that-be at VMK cut honest players - those who didn't kick other contestants in the stomach or try to trip their entire team - at the knees when they were thisclose to the finish line.


EGAD! No! That would be soooo not fair to those who worked and worked all weekend to earn theirs.

Open the quest again.

That gives those who didn't get to finish, the time VMK took away from them. It also LOWERS the value of the goods that the cheaters got.
Yeah, there really is no easy answer but let's face it, it's no different than dreams ears being given out as TDM prizes and how many people said you should appreciate the sentimental value over the change in value. ;) Plus, it isn't as if silver ears are the only rare prizes the quest winners received. Sooner or later I'm sure they will be released again anyway.
I like both solutions. Giving out the quest items in no way devalues the friendships I forged during that crazy experience; reopening the quest would give me a chance to honor my promise to my teammates.

And if this angers the cheaters and dream crushers who can't trade for Blue Stitch Ears anymore . . .:rotfl: Who wants to share the prize money with a hornswoggler who catches the subway to the finish line? :lmao:

I logged in who knows how many more hours during Dreams Moon than this quest - and I'm happy that there's heaps more opportunities to gift people with those lovely blue ears. :goodvibes
 
I posted early about how the Walt Disney Company is committed to quality experiences for its guests, which I fully believe it is from my experience with Parks and Resorts.

But let us suppose, as many of you are suggesting, that "Yavn" isn't providing quality guest service. Let us suppose that "contact us" doesn't give a rat's behind about your concerns about the game. Let us suppose that this game is 100% motivated by money and not customer experience. Let us suppose that the people responsible for VMK are quite pleased with its success and see no good reason for change. In short: let us suppose VMK does not care about what you think.

Okay, now what? The ball is in your court: stay or quit. There is NOTHING YOU CAN DO and Disney is not obligated to run the game in a way that pleases a certain group of its fans. Is that bad customer service? Maybe. The big risk of bad customer service is losing your customers. As Yavn has pointed out, in a free game losing customers is not a big concern. You don't like the way that sounds? I'd like to think maybe he doesn't care. Will it cause a decline in TWDC's bottom line? Probably not in the slightest. VMK is a very small part of Disney, and if it wrecks your image of the company, well, fine. Although, personally, when I think of Disney I don't think of their advertising mechanism; I think of much bigger things.

I think Disney is doing a fine job with this game. I enjoy my time on VMK, in the parks, and going about the rest of my life. It is your right to rant and express disappointment here, but to expect VMK to care what you think...well, that might be pushing it.

Well, I'm sorry to jump into you "group think" discussion here. Good night all,
Nick
 
I posted early about how the Walt Disney Company is committed to quality experiences for its guests, which I fully believe it is from my experience with Parks and Resorts.

Well, I'm sorry to jump into you "group think" discussion here. Good night all,
Nick


I am just wondering did you do the pirate quest? And if so how many hours did you spend helping your friends get through.

I have notice the ones that played all weekend with no breaks seem to be the most upset at how this whole issue was handle.

So what did you think of the pirate quest? Do you think is was handled well.
thanks
 
I am just wondering did you do the pirate quest? And if so how many hours did you spend helping your friends get through.

I have notice the ones that played all weekend with no breaks seem to be the most upset at how this whole issue was handle.

So what did you think of the pirate quest? Do you think is was handled well.
thanks

That is an excellent point. No, I did not attempt the Pirate Quest because I anticipated the substatial time investment, did some mental cost/benefit calculations, and decided it was not a worthwhile investment for me because I saw the risk of doing that large of a quest as the possibility of not passing, which was just too much for me to risk. I did the mini-quest and was happy with the result of that and then I went about my day.

I can certainly empathize with the frustrations of the players that were not able to complete the quest due to its early termination. I have no idea as to the real reason why VMK chose to end the quest, but I imagine they felt it necessary to do so. Unfortunately, some players were not able to complete the quest because of that, but that was an inherent risk with beginning in the first place.
 
That is an excellent point. No, I did not attempt the Pirate Quest because I anticipated the substatial time investment, did some mental cost/benefit calculations, and decided it was not a worthwhile investment for me because I saw the risk of doing that large of a quest as the possibility of not passing, which was just too much for me to risk. I did the mini-quest and was happy with the result of that and then I went about my day.

I can certainly empathize with the frustrations of the players that were not able to complete the quest due to its early termination. I have no idea as to the real reason why VMK chose to end the quest, but I imagine they felt it necessary to do so. Unfortunately, some players were not able to complete the quest because of that, but that was an inherent risk with beginning in the first place.

Well this was a very unsual situation and really what you did was probably the best decision. This was an extrememly emotional rollercoater that thousands rode for 3.5 days.

Did they do it for the quest prizes yes. But more so they did it for their friends and family. But there were too many to help some got left behind. Most people cried actual tears trying to get people through pirates. Hurt feeling because they were only one person and too many to help.

People stay at there computers constantly for 3 days or more trying so hard not to let anyone down.

Many did not eat well or sleep lots, got headaches etc

Families working hard to try and get everyone through. To be caught up short because they did not see the fine print that was added on the first Home Page Tuesday Morning.

There was no pop to all players saying the quest would be closing early. That may be due to what computer issues they were having.

But not to have it in bold huge letters while signing in was only a typing input issue I think.

To the mothers and fathers work work all weekend to have the quest close at noon and having to tell their one 7 year old son he did not finish when everyone in the family did.

And watch the tears roll down his face. This story was told 100's of times. No lie. if not even more.

Could they have walked away. Not really because behind those pixels were real people with real feelings, real friends real children. Not an easy task to ask majority of caring people.

The quest in itself was a awesome quest and given a longer time period would have been the best ever. Really creative quest well thought out. I got great pleasure reading the Blachheart story and it was not till the end I knew it was not true. Made me laugh.

So you have people really upset with the lack of communication something that has happened over and over again. And sadly it happens mostly to the age group it is focused too/

If this was just adults playing I think it would have calmed down by now.

But Disney created what he did for families.

Maybe if the first newletter had said we are really sorry for having to close the quest down and disappoint many players.

Unfortunatey we had few cheaters that were causing major issues to the security of the game.

You all worked really hard and enjoy your prizes. We here at Disney are working extremely hard to make sure this doesn't happen again.

But unfortunately it came across no matter if indended or not to the majority of people. Most of you cheated. so we had to close it down.

Never in VMK have I been called a cheater have kids come up to me and type kick kick. You scam. That is where I get the disharmony, cruel words.

This type of behavior was repeated over and over again.

Even the hosts were telling people in their host games that you wear those ears with pride. You deserve all your rewards. You work to get those prizes you enjoy them.

Would not have been needed if the newletter had communicated much better.

So even Host went into crisis management in a way. It was not the quest in itself that cause all discontentment. And for people who did not do the quest or did but everyone got through and they had no hurt feeling to start with they too would see no problem with how the first newletter came across.

But when you have thousands who were let down. Not thousands who did not finish those who help another get through only for them to be cut short then you have a whole different issue on your hands.

I do believe they work extremly hard at VMK. But they lack a very important key communications really needs to be fixed. I am sure they could find many quaified people that would even donate their time to help in this issue.

Communication would have solved 60% of what you have been reading.

I hope that helps a bit on why so many are so upset.

You will find very few that that did this quest a handful that had no issues.

You will find many many with hurt hearts. Yes we could all walk away but at the same time we would be walking away from our friends too.

I really do think they had a good reason and because of the games security could not tell us. It comes down to how to make it hurts less.

As parents know they can not stop there kids from getting hurt it is a part of life but how a parent handles it makes all the difference.

Unfortunately there are many kids on VMK that do not have that parent helping them through this.

I mean this in no disrespect just trying to share what many are feeling.
 
Thanks for expressing many people's thoughts so beautifully, Belle. :goodvibes

I thought the questmeisters did a wonderful job - I enjoyed the challenge and delighted in treasure huntin' puzzle-cracking. And the 16th task, while seemingly arghhh!ish and impossible on the first day, taught me the meaning of grace and community on the second and third. I felt euphoric by the final closing night, certain that my loyal teammates would beat the quest.

And then the corporate overlords pulled the plug.

Not on the cheaters and dream crushers, mind you, but on the people who followed the rules and embodied the Disney spirit of ʻOhana.

I witnessed much dissonance in the final hours:


  • Reward a handful of cheaters who engineered the shutdown, punish the thousands who honored VMK values.

  • Explain that spoilers was another reason behind the plug-pulling, then let every other quest in VMK history (including the mini treasure hunt that ran at the same time, with spoilers) continue without a premature shutdown.

  • A child screaming "This is the worst day of my life!" over and over again in the microcosm of the happiest place on earth.

As the advertising arm of the Disney brand, VMK hurt the target demographic that asks for Finding Nemo DVDs for Christmas or schedules summer vacations around in-park quests. What kind of message did VMK intend to send when they ended the quest during school and work hours, when kids and parents who sacrificed so much for other families couldn't reach their computers?

In the other "FREE" online games I play, the people who devote the most amount of time to the game are also the most likely to shell out actual cash for pirate quest pins and other VMK-related merchandise. The people who shrugged their shoulders at the quest probably don't contribute as much to your paychecks. The people who invested 30+ hours for the sake of their families, on the other hand, may think twice about spending thousands of dollars on a trip to the real life version of VMK.

For a game that models itself on the theme park, even down to the special events, some people may have a hard time dissociating this unpleasant experience from the real thing.

In every game, there will always be cheaters. It's how you deal with the betrayal - do you strip the "winner" of the title or cancel the entire Olympics? - that determines your longevity.
 
Well this was a very unsual situation and really what you did was probably the best decision. This was an extrememly emotional rollercoater that thousands rode for 3.5 days.

Did they do it for the quest prizes yes. But more so they did it for their friends and family. But there were too many to help some got left behind. Most people cried actual tears trying to get people through pirates. Hurt feeling because they were only one person and too many to help.

People stay at there computers constantly for 3 days or more trying so hard not to let anyone down.

Many did not eat well or sleep lots, got headaches etc

Families working hard to try and get everyone through. To be caught up short because they did not see the fine print that was added on the first Home Page Tuesday Morning.

There was no pop to all players saying the quest would be closing early. That may be due to what computer issues they were having.

But not to have it in bold huge letters while signing in was only a typing input issue I think.

To the mothers and fathers work work all weekend to have the quest close at noon and having to tell their one 7 year old son he did not finish when everyone in the family did.

And watch the tears roll down his face. This story was told 100's of times. No lie. if not even more.

Could they have walked away. Not really because behind those pixels were real people with real feelings, real friends real children. Not an easy task to ask majority of caring people.

The quest in itself was a awesome quest and given a longer time period would have been the best ever. Really creative quest well thought out. I got great pleasure reading the Blachheart story and it was not till the end I knew it was not true. Made me laugh.

So you have people really upset with the lack of communication something that has happened over and over again. And sadly it happens mostly to the age group it is focused too/

If this was just adults playing I think it would have calmed down by now.

But Disney created what he did for families.

Maybe if the first newletter had said we are really sorry for having to close the quest down and disappoint many players.

Unfortunatey we had few cheaters that were causing major issues to the security of the game.

You all worked really hard and enjoy your prizes. We here at Disney are working extremely hard to make sure this doesn't happen again.

But unfortunately it came across no matter if indended or not to the majority of people. Most of you cheated. so we had to close it down.

Never in VMK have I been called a cheater have kids come up to me and type kick kick. You scam. That is where I get the disharmony, cruel words.

This type of behavior was repeated over and over again.

Even the hosts were telling people in their host games that you wear those ears with pride. You deserve all your rewards. You work to get those prizes you enjoy them.

Would not have been needed if the newletter had communicated much better.

So even Host went into crisis management in a way. It was not the quest in itself that cause all discontentment. And for people who did not do the quest or did but everyone got through and they had no hurt feeling to start with they too would see no problem with how the first newletter came across.

But when you have thousands who were let down. Not thousands who did not finish those who help another get through only for them to be cut short then you have a whole different issue on your hands.

I do believe they work extremly hard at VMK. But they lack a very important key communications really needs to be fixed. I am sure they could find many quaified people that would even donate their time to help in this issue.

Communication would have solved 60% of what you have been reading.

I hope that helps a bit on why so many are so upset.

You will find very few that that did this quest a handful that had no issues.

You will find many many with hurt hearts. Yes we could all walk away but at the same time we would be walking away from our friends too.

I really do think they had a good reason and because of the games security could not tell us. It comes down to how to make it hurts less.

As parents know they can not stop there kids from getting hurt it is a part of life but how a parent handles it makes all the difference.

Unfortunately there are many kids on VMK that do not have that parent helping them through this.

I mean this in no disrespect just trying to share what many are feeling.

Exactly.
 
Well this was a very unsual situation and really what you did was probably the best decision. This was an extrememly emotional rollercoater that thousands rode for 3.5 days.

Did they do it for the quest prizes yes. But more so they did it for their friends and family. But there were too many to help some got left behind. Most people cried actual tears trying to get people through pirates. Hurt feeling because they were only one person and too many to help.

People stay at there computers constantly for 3 days or more trying so hard not to let anyone down.

Many did not eat well or sleep lots, got headaches etc

Families working hard to try and get everyone through. To be caught up short because they did not see the fine print that was added on the first Home Page Tuesday Morning.

There was no pop to all players saying the quest would be closing early. That may be due to what computer issues they were having.

But not to have it in bold huge letters while signing in was only a typing input issue I think.

To the mothers and fathers work work all weekend to have the quest close at noon and having to tell their one 7 year old son he did not finish when everyone in the family did.

And watch the tears roll down his face. This story was told 100's of times. No lie. if not even more.

Could they have walked away. Not really because behind those pixels were real people with real feelings, real friends real children. Not an easy task to ask majority of caring people.

The quest in itself was a awesome quest and given a longer time period would have been the best ever. Really creative quest well thought out. I got great pleasure reading the Blachheart story and it was not till the end I knew it was not true. Made me laugh.

So you have people really upset with the lack of communication something that has happened over and over again. And sadly it happens mostly to the age group it is focused too/

If this was just adults playing I think it would have calmed down by now.

But Disney created what he did for families.

Maybe if the first newletter had said we are really sorry for having to close the quest down and disappoint many players.

Unfortunatey we had few cheaters that were causing major issues to the security of the game.

You all worked really hard and enjoy your prizes. We here at Disney are working extremely hard to make sure this doesn't happen again.

But unfortunately it came across no matter if indended or not to the majority of people. Most of you cheated. so we had to close it down.

Never in VMK have I been called a cheater have kids come up to me and type kick kick. You scam. That is where I get the disharmony, cruel words.

This type of behavior was repeated over and over again.

Even the hosts were telling people in their host games that you wear those ears with pride. You deserve all your rewards. You work to get those prizes you enjoy them.

Would not have been needed if the newletter had communicated much better.

So even Host went into crisis management in a way. It was not the quest in itself that cause all discontentment. And for people who did not do the quest or did but everyone got through and they had no hurt feeling to start with they too would see no problem with how the first newletter came across.

But when you have thousands who were let down. Not thousands who did not finish those who help another get through only for them to be cut short then you have a whole different issue on your hands.

I do believe they work extremly hard at VMK. But they lack a very important key communications really needs to be fixed. I am sure they could find many quaified people that would even donate their time to help in this issue.

Communication would have solved 60% of what you have been reading.

I hope that helps a bit on why so many are so upset.

You will find very few that that did this quest a handful that had no issues.

You will find many many with hurt hearts. Yes we could all walk away but at the same time we would be walking away from our friends too.

I really do think they had a good reason and because of the games security could not tell us. It comes down to how to make it hurts less.

As parents know they can not stop there kids from getting hurt it is a part of life but how a parent handles it makes all the difference.

Unfortunately there are many kids on VMK that do not have that parent helping them through this.

I mean this in no disrespect just trying to share what many are feeling.


Couldn't have said it better. I was told off even today by someone who when I tried to help wasn't there and he came back while I was helping others and wanted me to basically drop them to help him. No titles mentioned but there were just to many to help and when he told me off about how I left him it litterally left me in tears which is hard to do. That 3.5 days was PURE HELL. I mean the quest was great and my friends and I remained strong and close and I managed to pass 20 people that I know, and helped countless others who passed that task. But to have someone scream at you " You Left Me! " or " I Didn't Pass Because Of You! " really is just spirit crushing. I was only one person and suddenly everyone needed me there was only so much I could do. I'm not trying to sound like it's about me I just wanted to vent my feelings.
 
I agree with at least 5 of the posts before mine. I "knew" i would not win, I did join a few "dis friendly" games, i even accidently killed the "winner". i wanted to help but found I seemed not to be. I AM happy for those who won and upset that some cheaters prospered and other "faithful rule followers" got punished. I agree with the olympic idea.
I "want" some of those prizes (some for my DD) and we (my DD and I) talked at great lenght about trading our "rare much wanted" blue stitch for some of the offers on the trade thread.
My heart hurt for those who tried and came so close. My heart is happy for those who pulled together and won. I even "rewarded" a player who won, because they choose to hand out their TMD prizes. I wanted to gift him a magic he "needed/wanted" but he said he would not unless I took dream ears he "found". I try to be generous, I try to honor all my trade deals. My word and name is all I have, and Yavn is not a "good" name right now, ending early, breaking promises....... enough said.
My DD does not live with me and she cannot get on VMK with her dad, so prizes and new items are usually shared between the 2 of us. Summer is when we sit side by side and play, together, as a family.
Disney=Family Family+Disney=fun family+disney+vmk=totally awesome
right now i am unimpressed. i will get over it, hopefully we all will.

lets just remember VMK is free (DUH!) and if we can't be at disney we can bring a little joy into our homes. Let's bring the joy back. Enough tears shed.
Joy to the world let VMK sing!
 
EGAD! No! That would be soooo not fair to those who worked and worked all weekend to earn theirs.

Open the quest again.

That gives those who didn't get to finish, the time VMK took away from them. It also LOWERS the value of the goods that the cheaters got.

OH! If they did open the quest again, they had BETTER be fair! I do NOT want to spend another weekend doing over what took so long to do only to get to the spot I had left off at when the quest was terminated. If they reopen it, I had better be at the same task I was when I quit.

:sad1: I will NOT go through that terrible weekend again.
:sad2:

I believe so many of you are right in what you say. It seems that VMK doesn't want to admit that they made mistakes. They shouldn't hide anything from us. If it is really that important that they would lose us, then it is that important that we know, so we can decide for ourselves whether to leave or not! :teacher:

Hmm...and if VMK is a FREE game...who have I been sending my money to every month?
 
Couldn't have said it better. I was told off even today by someone who when I tried to help wasn't there and he came back while I was helping others and wanted me to basically drop them to help him. No titles mentioned but there were just to many to help and when he told me off about how I left him it litterally left me in tears which is hard to do. That 3.5 days was PURE HELL. I mean the quest was great and my friends and I remained strong and close and I managed to pass 20 people that I know, and helped countless others who passed that task. But to have someone scream at you " You Left Me! " or " I Didn't Pass Because Of You! " really is just spirit crushing. I was only one person and suddenly everyone needed me there was only so much I could do. I'm not trying to sound like it's about me I just wanted to vent my feelings.

Ill, don't you dare listen to them. You worked all those 3.5 days, and I agree it was quite hectic, but you did your best and helped everyone. And the truth is, your only one person. You cannot help pass every single VMK player you met during the quest. I'm just saying that you shouldn't listen to them, you did the best job you could, and that was more than we asked from you. :)
 












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