WWYD - someone being racist on the street

Apple had a piece of property that became a large homeless camp in San Jose. Instead of just removing everyone from the property as is their right, the company put everyone in hotels and other temporary housing - spending millions on housing, rehab programs, job training programs, mental health programs, etc. After the program ended, NINE months later, only eight out of a few dozen people had "permanent" homes. Homeless advocates "slammed" for giving people housing and then taking it away. They just can't win.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/05...these-san-jose-residents-out-of-homelessness/
That's one of the things from the articles I was reading from my area and what has happened in my area too--promises made and broken.

To speak towards the housing thing people tend to not think about how a kind gesture can also be one of misguidedness. Here's some quotes from the article from my area on that:

“The system we’ve set up is pretty much based on a lie,” On paper, it’s a linear process. If homeless people meet a few demands, they can go from the street to shelter to transitional living to permanent housing. But shelters often come with fears of safety. And transitional housing, while providing some independence, “is like living with the strictest parents ever,” he said. “Parents who answer to institutional rules. You have to give up who you are and be who they require you to be just so you can stay.” Those who want to maintain their autonomy, or who fail to succeed in the system, pay the dangerous price of living on the street...seen countless people kicked out of shelters or transitional housing for not attending programming or for breaking rules. Once that happens, they’re back on the street. “You cannot teach houseless people a lesson by not housing them,” Once they are safe, they can start addressing their other problems, traumas and addictions. The ones that led them to the streets. The ones that got them kicked out of shelters."

Rules def. exist for safety of not only those in the shelter but the community but there is also an application of sensitivity. How many times do people find themselves in situations with their elderly parents when it comes to autonomy? Why would we expect anyone else to be different?

In the article you posted it mentioned this: "several motel residents distrust the tiny homes, worrying the rules would be too restrictive and the accommodations wouldn’t meet their needs. Two of the sites have shared bathrooms, which made some motel residents uncomfortable. One woman, who has two dogs, worried she’d have to give one up to accommodate the one-pet policy." Which again points to a kind but misguided gesture. Of course being in from the elements accounts for something it shouldn't always be seen as the benevolent gesture it often is portrayed as.

In the article you posted it did mention case management services but what kind of attention did those services give to these people, most of the time you hear about the overworked, too many cases and not enough help so did Apple just pay for the services without knowing the interaction and level of attentiveness? One interesting point is why wouldn't Apple be forthright about what the program entailed as the article says they declined to comment on the program? What is there to hide? Shouldn't be anything IMO. Patient information is not needed to tell people what you're paying supposedly millions for.
 
Totally OT to the thread, but did you see my PM? If you don't have an answer, that's fine. Don't worry about it. I just wanted to make sure you got the message. I don't normally initiate PMs & may have done it wrong. :o

I did see it, and I promise a nice long response tomorrow. I'm busy getting ready for a weekend trip today but I'll have about 6 hours to kill on the train tomorrow morning. 😀
 
Definitely disagree because there was no racist outburst. As I've said, he yelled using different words, essentially, screw you butthead. That is all. It just happened to be an Asian person and the panhandler modified his words to take appearance into consideration, but was still just a comment of blowing someone off.
Uh no. Yelling at someone to "go back to China" is racist.
 
I will steadfastly continue to promote Dr. Thomas Sowell's work on all of these types of societal issues.

It's not as black and white as people want it to be, and there are too many pieces of legislation that control funding, etc. Way too complex for disboards.
 

One solution would be to stop drugs entering this country BEFORE people become addicted. Federal agents in the southern border say they’ve seen a staggering 4,000 percent increase in fentanyl seizures over the last two years. I would like to see more funding for agents who are overworked and under appreciated.
I’m all for rehab centers and social services, but when you’re talking $13 BILLION funding for homeless just in ONE state , then I don’t think anyone in their right mind would call that underfunding! Maybe we need smarter funding - maybe let the private sector tackle some of these issues. When government gets involved there is always so much waste and bureaucracy. When you’re spending other people’s money and don’t have to make a profit, then it’s easy to not be worried about results or success
 
I wouldn’t have said anything. If the person he hurled the racist remark too didn’t care enough to address the man then I wouldn’t have seen a reason to risk my or my child’s safety by saying something to him.
 
Uh no. Yelling at someone to "go back to China" is racist.
In context, I disagree. As I said, it is nothing more than someone yelling "Go blow it out your rear". A way of dismissing someone. Everyone is reading way too much into what the comment was. It was merely someone mouthing off to someone else.
 
In context, I disagree. As I said, it is nothing more than someone yelling "Go blow it out your rear". A way of dismissing someone. Everyone is reading way too much into what the comment was. It was merely someone mouthing off to someone else.
When you tell someone to go back to their country of presumed origin you are exhibiting racist and discriminatory behaviors. If it was merely as you say I'm sure people can use any of the other responses that drive home that frustration of which there are a lot of creative ways to phrase that wouldn't you think?

Alas when one uses the 'ole go back where you came from (which is a presumptuous, presumed, ignorant way) they are doing it for a straightforward reason and certainly not for what you think it is.
 
When you tell someone to go back to their country of presumed origin you are exhibiting racist and discriminatory behaviors. If it was merely as you say I'm sure people can use any of the other responses that drive home that frustration of which there are a lot of creative ways to phrase that wouldn't you think?

Alas when one uses the 'ole go back where you came from (which is a presumptuous, presumed, ignorant way) they are doing it for a straightforward reason and certainly not for what you think it is.

The way I saw it, he was saying "You don't belong here but I do." I mean - he had other choices. Maybe referring to women using vulgar body part descriptions. Maybe the N word. I can't see how anyone could be dismissive of something this egregious regardless of how frustrated he would be that someone wouldn't buy him a cheeseburger.
 

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