Wow!

[LindaR]

I'd like to thank God for giving me my sense of humor......cause I really had to use it yesterday!

I was in the process of running errands for work yesterday afternoon when DD17 called me. She's had a very busy week at school because she is leaving today for a trip to Oregon to look at colleges. She is part of Big Brothers/Big Sisters and visits her "little" on Mondays and Fridays. Since she wouldn't be here on Friday, she saw her yesterday afternoon. DD also takes a college class (Tuesdays and Thursdays) and does not have a 4th period class at the high school. Still with me? So after visiting her "little" she was going back to school to take a Biology test that will be given on Friday (teacher told her this would be ok). She walks into school and heads to the bathroom to pee, was then gonna grab a sheet of paper from her locker for her test, go to the front desk to sign back in to school, and then take her test.
She was stopped by security (rent-a-cop) and asked for her pass. She said she didn't have one and was going to sign in as soon as she used the bathroom. Guard told her she HAD to use the bathroom by the front office. (Yucky one. There are 4 stalls. 3 don't have walls and the other one has no lock on the door and you have to hold it closed with your foot). She complied. There was no soap for her to wash her hands so she left to go wash her hands at the one by her locker. The guard screamed at her to stop and DD said that she needed to wash her hands. Guard asked if she had signed in and DD said "no" not yet! She would sign in as soon as she grabbed paper for her test. Guard threatened to have her ARRESTED. DD looked at her and told her to "calm the *uck down". Guard called for backup!
Hang on for part 2

 

[sleepyone]

Uh oh!

 

[phisigprincess]

Are you kidding me? I can see it now "girl arrested for using bathroom." Unreal!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Whoa!!

 

[Grumpy's Wife]

That's some morning your DD had. Can't wait to see part two.

 

[JPN4265]

Just think, if your Daughter had just complied with the request of the security guard, none of this would have happened. Whether you agree with the guard or not, they are their for a purpose. Your daughter is in the wrong in this situation. She should issue an appology and accept any punishment that the school wants to issue. Maybe she will learn something from this? I hope so.

 

[Chattyaholic]

Just think, if your Daughter had just complied with the request of the security guard, none of this would have happened. Whether you agree with the guard or not, they are their for a purpose. Your daughter is in the wrong in this situation. She should issue an appology and accept any punishment that the school wants to issue. Maybe she will learn something from this? I hope so.

ITA!!

Your daughter actually told the security guard to "calm the *uck down?"
You just don't DO that to a security guard and expect to merrily go on your way! That was extremely disrespectful.

 

[Hercules10]

Sorry, with all the recent school shootings I can understand why a security guard would be a little on the strict side.

 

[mytwotinks]

Just think, if your Daughter had just complied with the request of the security guard, none of this would have happened. Whether you agree with the guard or not, they are their for a purpose. Your daughter is in the wrong in this situation. She should issue an appology and accept any punishment that the school wants to issue. Maybe she will learn something from this? I hope so.

This is what I was thinking. You are supposed to sign in BEFORE going into the halls, right? What is the point of having people sign in if they are free to roam the halls first?

ETA: I think we should be teaching our kids that rules are for everyone, not for everyone else!

 

[LindaR]

Two more guards arrived and DD explained what she was doing. One said that they would escort her to the front office and (she WAS getting angry by now) she asked if she could get her *amn paper so she could take her biology test. They told her that she was going to be arrested for trespassing AND for cussing. She dialed me on her cell phone and tried to tell me what was going on. Made no sense to me. Guards then screamed at her to "put the phone down" and I didn't know WHO was yelling at her and WHAT was going on. They escorted her to the school police officer's office (thank goodness) and wrote up their report. I called her back to ask WHAT was going on. She said that she was in Officer Guererro's office and I said to calm down and I would be there in two minutes.
When I got there Officer G was smiling (DD was NOT). I asked him to please explain to me what happened.

According to "school rules", kids that are dual credit (take colleges classes along with HS classes) are not allowed back on school property after they leave (not in the handbook). DD was trespassing. She was also insubordinant because she refused the guard's orders (had to pee and then INSISTED on washing her hands) and also violated rules (again, not in the handbook) because she cussed. He stated that she could be placed under arrest.
I looked at him and said that I felt OLD because when I went to school, kids got in trouble for LEAVING school......not coming back. AND she must really be a bad kid because she was coming back to take a TEST! And they really should have put the school on lock-down when she chose to pee. And they should have called the SWAT team when she insisted on washing her hands!

I told him that I was going to handle this with humor. We now understood the rules about coming back to school and she would follow proper procedure in the future. As for the threat to arrest her for cussing.......I told him that he'd really need to blow dust off of his copy of the constitution and show me where it said that. I said it may be "offensive" to cuss but it was NOT illegal!
He laughed and said that as soon as he pulled DD's records, he could see that she was not a danger to society! She is an honor student who has never been in trouble before. He said that she appeared very angry (understatement!) and pretty stressed and he thought this was a "clashing of personalities" and would go no further than this.

It's not often that I am at a loss for words..............but this was the most ridiculous thing I've encountered in LONG time!

I love my daughter. I warned her not to give the rent-a-cops ANY reason to go on a power trip again!

 

[Hannathy]

I don't need to wait for part 2 your DD is wrong on so many levels it isn't even funny! I'm a bit worried that you think it is funny. If my DD said what your DD said to ANY adult she would be picking her behind up off the floor! Why does your DD think she is special and outside the rules? Rules are in place for everyone not just those who choose to follow them. She's lucky she didn't get tackled or worse from the guard.

 

[Savsmommy]

The guard was just doing his/her job. They could get in trouble and possibly lose there job if they just let your DD on school property with no pass.

 

[ChristmasElf]

Sorry. But I think the guard was a little out of line. Had she just let the girl use the restroom she was already at, none of this would have happened. Her dd could have used the restroom, gone over to the office asnd then signed in and all would have been good.
I do agree that the girl should have used the F word on the guard as that seems a little out of place, however the guard is equally wrong for being confrontational in the first place.


My children all know I have a non existent tolerance for any kind of BS. The school quickly learned this over the years as well. So when my dd has a problem with a teacher/guard whoever that is taking their authority past it's limit, I told her to just calmly ask them to "Call my Mother's cell phone please"

So far, this has resulted in "No, that's okay, just forget about it"

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Just think, if your Daughter had just complied with the request of the security guard, none of this would have happened. Whether you agree with the guard or not, they are their for a purpose. Your daughter is in the wrong in this situation. She should issue an appology and accept any punishment that the school wants to issue. Maybe she will learn something from this? I hope so.

Why was it such a big deal to get her paper and go pee before signing in?

 

[hentob]

You use terms like "rent-a-cop" and "power trip". No. That is just wrong. What was the power trip? Your daughter seemed combative. Did she actually cuss at a security guard? Please teach her that is wrong. Please do not take her side on this. Please do not teach her disrespect by using words like "rent-a-cop" and "power trip".

Children have been murdered this week. Too many of them. In schools. In the USA. Not third world, crime ridden, out of control countries (although I am starting question if we are one of those lately). In the United States of America. If only there were lowly rent-a-cops to stop the intruders before it happened

How will you be punishing your daughter?


ETA--Aren't you mortified that your teenaged daughter told an adult to "Calm the "BLEEP" down?" You seemed to breeze through that comment like it was nothing. Is it the fact that she said it to a "rent-a-cop" that makes it ok?

This really has me bothered.

 

[mytwotinks]

Why was it such a big deal to get her paper and go pee before signing in?

Why would it have been a big deal for her to listen to the authority figure and sign in first? Aren't we teaching our kids to be respectful of authority anymore?

 

[Patch'sD]

With the present times of Shootings in the Schools, I have no problem with the way the guard acted. I am all for securing the schools. The Ops description or " Rent a Cops" and The OPs daughter Saying F off to the Security Guard. Shows a complete disrepect for the people who are trying to do their job. These people are on the front line if some whack job tries to get into the school.

 

[mytwotinks]

I love my daughter. I warned her not to give the rent-a-cops ANY reason to go on a power trip again!

So why didn't you just tell her to follow the directions of the adults who have been hired to keep her and the other students safe at school? Why be arrogant and insulting and snobbish (rent-a-cop) about the guys job?

Are you really raising your kids to feel superior to others who work hard to support their families? Chances are that this guy is a cop and is working a part time job (protecting YOUR CHILD) to make some extra money. You should be telling your daughter to apologize and teaching her some manners instead of instilling an "I'm better than you" attitude in her. Although it is clear from your story that you have succeded in raising your daughter to beleive that she is somehow above this lowly "rent-a-cop".

 

[Freyja]

You use terms like "rent-a-cop" and "power trip". No. That is just wrong. What was the power trip? Your daughter seemed combative. Did she actually cuss at a security guard? Please teach her that is wrong. Please do not take her side on this. Please do not teach her disrespect by using words like "rent-a-cop" and "power trip".

Children have been murdered this week. Too many of them. In schools. In the USA. Not third world, crime ridden, out of control countries (although I am starting question if we are one of those lately). In the United States of America. If only there were lowly rent-a-cops to stop the intruders before it happened

How will you be punishing your daughter?


ETA--Aren't you mortified that your teenaged daughter told an adult to "Calm the "BLEEP" down?" You seemed to breeze through that comment like it was nothing. Is it the fact that she said it to a "rent-a-cop" that makes it ok?

This really has me bothered.

Maybe the focus should be more on preventing teens/people from wanting to take such action than on hiring more rent-a-cops!!!

 

[Hannathy]

What is the use of having people sign in if anyone can waltz in and go anywhere they want before signing in. Guess what the boy who killed the principal in Wisconsin was a student too. How does the guard know your DD is a honor student? Your attitude amazes me. All I know is that if I was a parent of another student in your school and I heard the Police officer thought it was funny and didn't act on what your DD did I would be at the Police chiefs office demanding he be reassigned and wanting answers. I feel sorry for the security guards who were doing their job. Your DD flagrantly broke rules put in place for safety, was rude, and combative and you defend her. Talk about sense of entitlement!

Plain and simple your DD was wrong and IMO you are also.