wow....Toyata halts sales including the camary

[LindaG4458]

We bought a 2010 Corolla at the end of October. While here in FL it is our workhorse car, used to move DH's aunt from her apartment to a nursing home. I only drive it occasionally (prefer my 2004 Avalon) but DH uses it daily. We discussed what to do if the car starts to surge so are comfortable still driving it. A neighbor has a 2009 model and will continue to drive his, too.

Considering we have owned (over the years) 4 Corollas, 6 Camrys, 1 Avalon, and a Toyota truck and this is the first recall we have experienced I still would buy another vehicle from them.

We are due for routine service on the Corolla sometime in March and hope the can do the necessary modifications at that time.

 

[Imzadi]

I'm glad Toyota is finally stepping up. I remember when the rubber was coming off of tires and the tire company knew it and denied it for years, thinking the amount of payouts to the families of the deceased victims was a lot less than recalling the tires.

same thing with the old SUVs that had the incredibly high carriages. The car companies knew after they built & tested the first several, that they were prone to flipping. But, the assembly line machinery had already been built, so it was cheaper to just pay out the victim's families again, than change the frames of the SUVs.

no matter what car you have, be sure you would know how to shut your car down in a situation like that. I've been told you would want to put your car into neutral. My car has a power button like that Lexus, we were told to hold the power button down for 3 seconds to shut down.

I thought part of the problem with shutting a car down is that the driver also loses power steering?

 

[Christine]

My local news confirmed that it affects the gas pedals that were manufactured in the U.S. Any Toyota that was manufactured in Japan (like my Highlander) does not have this problem. I believe all Camry's are made in the U.S. The Corolla used to be strictly a Japan car but I believe that has changed as well and now some can come from Japan and some from the U.S. Some/all of the pickup trucks are made in the U.S.

 

[Squirlz]

They keep saying this has to do with floor mats but it is far more serious than that to stop production and sales. Hopefully this will cause people to finally see the light on toyota and the garbage they produce.

Nobody is saying that. This a separate problem. It is a problem in the throttle-by-wire system which is made by a US company.

 

[Colleen27]

And these are the cars that are oh-so-much better built than anything Detroit can put together...

Just sayin'.

 

[LoraJ]

And these are the cars that are oh-so-much better built than anything Detroit can put together...

Just sayin'.

Well, the ones with the issues are the ones built in the states.

Just sayin'.

 

[Shutterbug]

from the article about what cars are NOT affected:

the auto company said the sales suspension wouldn't affect Lexus or Scion vehicles. Toyota said the Prius, Tacoma, Sienna, Venza, Solara, Yaris, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Land Cruiser and select Camry models, including all Camry hybrids, would remain for sale. Those vehicles contain gas pedals produced by a different North American supplier from the one whose parts are invovled in the current sales halt, Toyota has said.

 

[Desnik]

*Here is what's going on*
The first recalls and issues with the accelerator in the Toyotas did have to do with the mats and long pedals. They stopped selling the mats and shaved the pedals to make them shorter. What was happening was the RUBBER mats in some peoples cars were "riding up" or moving too close under the gas pedal and the pedals were long as well which was causing the cars to "accelerate on their own".

Now Toyota comes to find out that there is a DIFFERENT problem with the gas pedals manufactured by a US/Canadian maker. These gas pedals have a problem that after long time use they start to become "sluggish" and not perform properly. Eventually the gas pedal can just get stuck down! This has happened aprox. 5 times and all those cars had over 36,000 miles on them. Now Toyota uses 2 different companies to manufacture their gas pedals. The ones made in the US/Canada are the ones that are being recalled and cars with those pedals have had their sales suspended. The Japanese manufacturer of the pedals used in Toyotas are NOT affected by this recall and sales suspension. Now all the different Toyotas like the Camry may have the recalled pedal and may not. If you have a Toyota you need to check your pedal or go to your local dealership to have the pedal checked out. The 2 different pedals look different so they will know which one you have just by looking at it. The Japanese pedal that is not affected by the recall has 4 lines or "ribs" across it. It is a narrow pedal compared to the recalled US/Canadian made one. Also the Japanese one has what feels like 4 ladder steps in the back of the pedal and has a series of numbers on it. You can see this if you hold up a mirror to it.

*If you have a Rav4 and your vin # starts with a letter "J" you are not affected by this recall.

*If you have a Camry Hybrid you are not affected by this recall.

What stinks is if you do have this particular gas pedal there is no solution to the problem, YET. They say they are working 24/7 to try to find a solution.

Now you may be asking how I know all this. Well, yesterday we just bought a 2010 Camry XLE! So we spent the entire morning at our dealership and researching all of this on the internet! Thankfully our Camry has the Japanese pedal so it is not affected by this recall. This is our 2nd Camry and we had our last for 3 years and it had 96,000 miles on it when we traded it in. We never had a problem with it. Many here know my family and I were involved in a tragic car accident in 2005 and safety in my vehicle is very important to me. So I did my research and feel confident with my Toyota. I really hope for those affected by this they(Toyota) get this rectified quickly, at no cost to their customers, and accurately. What is a shame is it is the US/Canadian manufacturer that made this faulty gas pedal. I worry that that could affect how Toyota will pick their manufacturers in the long wrong. Last thing I want to see is more US jobs going oversees!

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

Desnik,

Thank you so much for posting that information!!
I have a 2007 Camry XLE and just went to look at my gas pedal. I appear to have the ladder steps on the back so I am hoping I have the Japanese pedal.
I won't know for sure until I hear from my dealer but your information gives me some hope!

I also have not had any of the indications of a problem with my pedal so that is good as well.

 

[Desnik]

Desnik,

Thank you so much for posting that information!!
I have a 2007 Camry XLE and just went to look at my gas pedal. I appear to have the ladder steps on the back so I am hoping I have the Japanese pedal.
I won't know for sure until I hear from my dealer but your information gives me some hope!

I also have not had any of the indications of a problem with my pedal so that is good as well.

You are very welcome! And yes, please talk to your dealer or stop by there and have them double check for you. At my dealership I was shown the pictures of the 2 different gas pedals and then we went outside to my car and compared the pictures.

*Also as an FYI to people, when you use the rubber mats DO NOT put them on top of the mats already there! Remove those mats and make sure you use the anchors to secure your Toyota rubber mats in place.

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

You are very welcome! And yes, please talk to your dealer or stop by there and have them double check for you. At my dealership I was shown the pictures of the 2 different gas pedals and then we went outside to my car and compared the pictures.

*Also as an FYI to people, when you use the rubber mats DO NOT put them on top of the mats already there! Remove those mats and make sure you use the anchors to secure your Toyota rubber mats in place.

I have been driving without a floor mat for so long I don't know if I will ever put one back on lol

 

[arminnie]

And these are the cars that are oh-so-much better built than anything Detroit can put together...

Just sayin'.

Yeah - but they are still so much better than the GM products I have owned.

I've never bought a Toyota - but was shocked when I started buying Hondas after years of being a big Detroit supporter (grew up in Hazel Park) that I didn't have to be towed once or twice a year.

I do have a '96 Ford Explorer that has never been towed. It only has 40,000 miles on it - but it has never let me down like the GM products ALWAYS did.

 

[S. C.]

We have a car and truck both GM with over 130k miles each and neither has been towed. We have owned lots of other GM products with no problems.

My next new vehicle will be a GM product.

 

[MoniqueU]

This personally affects the livelihoods of many friends and coworkers of my DH's. Acording to my DH it will be March before they get things straightened out if then.This is not good news for alot of people that rely on the sales of these vehicles to make their mortgage payments. We have all toyotas and never problems but I have had fords with pretty good luck too. I don't like gm or chrysler products nor do I like honda. It doesn't matter what product it is though this is bad news for alot of people depending on making a living.

 

[EMom]

*Here is what's going on*
Toyota comes to find out that there is a DIFFERENT problem with the gas pedals manufactured by a US/Canadian maker. These gas pedals have a problem that after long time use they start to become "sluggish" and not perform properly. Eventually the gas pedal can just get stuck down! This has happened aprox. 5 times and all those cars had over 36,000 miles on them. Now Toyota uses 2 different companies to manufacture their gas pedals. The ones made in the US/Canada are the ones that are being recalled and cars with those pedals have had their sales suspended. The Japanese manufacturer of the pedals used in Toyotas are NOT affected by this recall and sales suspension. Now all the different Toyotas like the Camry may have the recalled pedal and may not. If you have a Toyota you need to check your pedal or go to your local dealership to have the pedal checked out. The [/B]2 different pedals look different so they will know which one you have just by looking at it. The Japanese pedal that is not affected by the recall has 4 lines or "ribs" across it. It is a narrow pedal compared to the recalled US/Canadian made one. Also the Japanese one has what feels like 4 ladder steps in the back of the pedal and has a series of numbers on it. You can see this if you hold up a mirror to it.

*If you have a Rav4 and your vin # starts with a letter "J" you are not affected by this recall.

*If you have a Camry Hybrid you are not affected by this recall.

What stinks is if you do have this particular gas pedal there is no solution to the problem, YET. They say they are working 24/7 to try to find a solution.

ACK! I don't know which I have. Mine has the 4 "ladders" across the back, but I can't spot any numbers. I count about 7 lines running down the front, not 4. I didn't measure the width of the pedal, but I'd say it's approaching 1 1/2 to 2 inches wide. Soooooo confused.

 

[frndshpcptn]

This personally affects the livelihoods of many friends and coworkers of my DH's. Acording to my DH it will be March before they get things straightened out if then.This is not good news for alot of people that rely on the sales of these vehicles to make their mortgage payments. We have all toyotas and never problems but I have had fords with pretty good luck too. I don't like gm or chrysler products nor do I like honda. It doesn't matter what product it is though this is bad news for alot of people depending on making a living.

I really hope its not March. I know quite a few people that rely on Toyota sales to make thier mortgages as well.

 

[mnrose]

Look at your VIN number. If it starts with a J, you DO NOT have one of the recalled vehicles. All "J" numbered series Toyotas were made in Japan.

The VIN can be seen by looking at the dash from outside your car on the driver's side. OR, look at your proof of insurance card. It's on there too.

 

[arminnie]

It doesn't matter what product it is though this is bad news for alot of people depending on making a living.

That is the real problem.

I heard that interest rates could go up a whole point - but later today heard that the Fed is going to keep them low. I honestly think if mortgage rates went up a whole percentage point that the whole economy would just spiral downward.

Our economy is just too fragile right now to take many hits.

 

[KirstenB]

Agghhh...I bought Toyota stock years ago, thinking it would never tank. Guess I'm eating my words.

 

[disneymarie]

DS bought me a 2010 Camry that is sitting at the dealership now.
We stood there asking about the recall, was it on the 2010, was it fixed or any concern. I really do not want to walk away as I truely believe in the camry, but now am unsure...

We have a 99, that never had an issue, but an air exchange sensor. 110,000 and a 89, Corolla that has 300,000 had a clutch but is now rusting too much to inspect.

I wonder what will happen to the sale, no one called, we did not finance. It was being held and having side molding put on it....

I know it is one plant that manufactured the regulation of the gas, speed. We had one local veh go off the road and crash into a garage, the floor mats were in the trunk.