Yup. Most of us here CAN book at Riviera and future resorts. Lesson is, if you want to stay at Riviera, either buy additional points direct or buy Riviera itself. No where near worth some of the headaches mentioned in this thread.You think DVC would let it get that far? I don't. Most are just not willing to call their bluff. I don't really care at this point. I've learned my lesson. This doesn't effect me, so
Yes, but the title of this thread is a spinoff of another thread that started with the idea of a lawsuit and morphed into action and ideas. I mean absolutely no disrespect, but I will not simply accept posts as unquestioningly valid until the poster has established a reputation on the boards.
I think if you'd read through all of the other thread you would find that I do believe it to be worth it, but me personally, I am tired of fighting the good fight when others don't give a flying fig.
This is the crux of the issue. I know personally I've talked to and approached DVC management on this issue, similar as I did with the 2020 point reallocation. For all the complaints on the boards I really don't see much traction on this issue, mostly because I think people don't care to fight (because when it comes down to it, its really not much of a problem to them so its easier to ignore).
Agreed. I contacted them over the previous issue and the new grocery delivery fee. I'm done. We on Dis are probably the most vocal and are willing to self-advocate (and its only a minority of us at that). I lost in the reversal of the 2020 chart and the FB pixie dust snorters gained, but they did nothing but discourage and mock our efforts. Yeah, I'll allow someone else to beat their head against the wall.
In my opinion the lesson is that DVD has decided that simply adding 'Blue Card' benefits is insufficient to their needs and they now feel free to rewrite our contracts as it suits them. Or at least semi-free - as I detailed upthread in response to Bing Showei's question on the desired endgame, DVD wrote their way out of the restrictions if they are called on them.
I think this change might be a bit harder to get through regulators because it would be an extensive change to the DVC Resort Agreements that are in place. And amending that document is much more difficult than modifying the Disclosure Document of BVTC and introducing a new resort with the restrictions. Mostly because they would be removing contractual guarantees where introduction Riviera removed nothing (since it was never guaranteed until it signed its Resort Agreement).
I would suspect the only practical way this could be done is by removing SSR from the club. And the removal from the club is quite difficult and well defined. As for modifying the agreements the regulators have to approve and my guess is they might question that. Plus even the remote possibility of it happening would be the day Disney decided to not care about DVC anymore.I was talking more about the possibility of excluding a resort in the near future. I threw out the scenario that maybe they could keep SS from trading into any other resort in 5 years because resale was so cheap there it was hurting direct sales at the new locations. The person I talked with indicated that could be done because they have the ability to modify the agreements. But she said no need to worry because they wouldn't do that.
First I like your signature, hadn't noticed it before, as one of them too it's good to see you owning it. Second I'm surprised that you were told that I actually inquired and was told the process is approved but not the yearly point charts. Essentially what I was told was because the process is dictated in the POS that was approved but the final charts were not. Though I might have been mishearing what she said but more than likely it was word smithing meant to cause confusion.
